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Junior Witter
Posted: 15 Sep 2006, 18:31
by Amaroo
Just watched the fight (Friday 15th Sept). I have to say that if that is the best he can do then he should forget America. He has not a snowball in hell's chance.
Why is it that all Ingle trained boxers seem to be taught to ponce around the ring like ballet dancers instead of boxing.
Watching the Ingle family tonight was like watching the Marx brothers in action !!!.
Witter if he wants to go any further should get away from the Ingle stable and into somewhere that will hone his skills properly.
Re: Junior Witter
Posted: 15 Sep 2006, 18:33
by DG.
Amaroo wrote:Just watched the fight (Friday 15th Sept). I have to say that if that is the best he can do then he should forget America. He has not a snowball in hell's chance.
Why is it that all Ingle trained boxers seem to be taught to ponce around the ring like ballet dancers instead of boxing.
Watching the Ingle family tonight was like watching the Marx brothers in action !!!.
Witter if he wants to go any further should get away from the Ingle stable and into somewhere that will hone his skills properly.
Junior Witter
WBC Light Welterweight Champion Of The World.
Re: Junior Witter
Posted: 15 Sep 2006, 18:35
by Autobarn
Amaroo wrote:Just watched the fight (Friday 15th Sept). I have to say that if that is the best he can do then he should forget America. He has not a snowball in hell's chance.
Why is it that all Ingle trained boxers seem to be taught to ponce around the ring like ballet dancers instead of boxing.
Watching the Ingle family tonight was like watching the Marx brothers in action !!!.
Witter if he wants to go any further should get away from the Ingle stable and into somewhere that will hone his skills properly.
Well, winning is more important than spectacle. It was a match between two cautious counter punchers, & Witter won clearly enough.
Posted: 15 Sep 2006, 18:37
by Cannibal
Witter needs to hand pick an aggressive, come forward fighter for his next fight so he can impress, maybe Torres?
Re: Junior Witter
Posted: 15 Sep 2006, 20:03
by beagleboy
Amaroo wrote:Just watched the fight (Friday 15th Sept). I have to say that if that is the best he can do then he should forget America. He has not a snowball in hell's chance.
Why is it that all Ingle trained boxers seem to be taught to ponce around the ring like ballet dancers instead of boxing.
Watching the Ingle family tonight was like watching the Marx brothers in action !!!.
Witter if he wants to go any further should get away from the Ingle stable and into somewhere that will hone his skills properly.
is there a gym in britain with as many world champs ?
you FOOL

Posted: 15 Sep 2006, 20:05
by Max Molyneux
Ingles Gym has two champs now as Nelson still has the WBO.

Posted: 15 Sep 2006, 20:06
by leforge
Well done Junior, your an idiot Amaroo, we got another genuine world champion not some WBU bull shit
Re: Junior Witter
Posted: 15 Sep 2006, 21:06
by SticknMove
Amaroo wrote:Just watched the fight (Friday 15th Sept). I have to say that if that is the best he can do then he should forget America. He has not a snowball in hell's chance.
Why is it that all Ingle trained boxers seem to be taught to ponce around the ring like ballet dancers instead of boxing.
Watching the Ingle family tonight was like watching the Marx brothers in action !!!.
Witter if he wants to go any further should get away from the Ingle stable and into somewhere that will hone his skills properly.
I guess it's about the Ingles training their boxers to do enough to win a title, make enough money and live the rest of lives with most of their marbles in tact.
It doesn't make for exciting boxing but it certainly adds another dimension to the sport

Witter/Nelson/Ingles
Posted: 16 Sep 2006, 12:09
by Amaroo
Max Molyneux wrote:Ingles Gym has two champs now as Nelson still has the WBO. :TU:
That about says it all. Nelson and Witter. Nelson is a nice guy and is certainly a better TV commentator than he will ever be as a boxer.
Ingles stable rarely seem to get any boxers up against "real" opposition.
Neither Nelson or Witter would survive on the US scene. And, Hatton would have Witter for tea.
Posted: 16 Sep 2006, 13:57
by Andy Mac
livingstone cole wrote:Nelson is a fantastic boxer, he's a guy that has come as close to mastering the art as anyone else around. He's boring I'll give you that, his style is not much fun to watch but he rarely gets tagged and as of the last eight years or so, always wins.
I totally agree with every word you have said in this post. I think however that some people might feel that boxing like any sport is primarily about entertainment. Last nights fight was a perfect example of what happens when 2 fighters are committed to NOT entertaining the customers, but surviving.
Re: Witter/Nelson/Ingles
Posted: 16 Sep 2006, 14:22
by Autobarn
Amaroo wrote:Max Molyneux wrote:Ingles Gym has two champs now as Nelson still has the WBO.

That about says it all. Nelson and Witter. Nelson is a nice guy and is certainly a better TV commentator than he will ever be as a boxer.
Ingles stable rarely seem to get any boxers up against "real" opposition.
Neither Nelson or Witter would survive on the US scene. And, Hatton would have Witter for tea.
absolute tripe
Witter has beaten Bergman, Kotelnik, N'dou and Corley. All top 10. He beat an American in London and an Australian in America. Where do you get off talking that garbage? He totally schooled Corley, really got inside his head, nearly dropped him twice and deserved to win by around 8 points.
Nelson & Witter aren't everone's cup of tea.
But they are excellent defensive fighters.
Nelson has wins over
Ezra Sellers (oh, it was Denmark so I guess it doesn't count even tho he beat a dangerous American)
Dominguez,
Carl Thompson (whom Americans rate above Nelson even tho he is retired and schooled by Nelson!). Anyone think he'd be outclassed by the crude O Neil Bell or the very good but stamina defiicent Mormeck? At least he's willing to actually defend his title.
Look at Bell, allowing himself to get stripped so he doesn't have to fight an awkward foe in Cunningham! Nelson is taking on Maccarinelli next month. Even tho he was told by Drs he'd never fight again he's facing a young power puncher who's rated by publications in the world top 10.
Posted: 16 Sep 2006, 17:10
by black panther
agreed people sometimes forget boxing is a sport and in sport your first and foremost goal is to win - to hit and not get hit. But these days its all about money so fighters who are good but dont necessarily look good dont get the opportunies these days ala witter.
Re: Junior Witter
Posted: 16 Sep 2006, 17:18
by rhino222
Amaroo wrote:Just watched the fight (Friday 15th Sept). I have to say that if that is the best he can do then he should forget America. He has not a snowball in hell's chance.
Why is it that all Ingle trained boxers seem to be taught to ponce around the ring like ballet dancers instead of boxing.
Watching the Ingle family tonight was like watching the Marx brothers in action !!!.
Witter if he wants to go any further should get away from the Ingle stable and into somewhere that will hone his skills properly.
you donkey, how are you gonna change styles when you are 32, and have just won the wbc title using a particular style...
Re: Witter/Nelson/Ingles
Posted: 16 Sep 2006, 18:22
by Max Molyneux
viciousmaussa wrote:Amaroo wrote:Max Molyneux wrote:Ingles Gym has two champs now as Nelson still has the WBO.

That about says it all. Nelson and Witter. Nelson is a nice guy and is certainly a better TV commentator than he will ever be as a boxer.
Ingles stable rarely seem to get any boxers up against "real" opposition.
Neither Nelson or Witter would survive on the US scene. And, Hatton would have Witter for tea.
absolute tripe
Witter has beaten Bergman, Kotelnik, N'dou and Corley. All top 10. He beat an American in London and an Australian in America. Where do you get off talking that garbage? He totally schooled Corley, really got inside his head, nearly dropped him twice and deserved to win by around 8 points.
Nelson & Witter aren't everone's cup of tea.
But they are excellent defensive fighters.
Nelson has wins over
Ezra Sellers (oh, it was Denmark so I guess it doesn't count even tho he beat a dangerous American)
Dominguez,
Carl Thompson (whom Americans rate above Nelson even tho he is retired and schooled by Nelson!). Anyone think he'd be outclassed by the crude O Neil Bell or the very good but stamina defiicent Mormeck? At least he's willing to actually defend his title.
Look at Bell, allowing himself to get stripped so he doesn't have to fight an awkward foe in Cunningham! Nelson is taking on Maccarinelli next month. Even tho he was told by Drs he'd never fight again he's facing a young power puncher who's rated by publications in the world top 10.
Nelson would have a good chance against Bell. He wouldn't run out of gas like Mormeck and is better skilled.
Why do they rate Thompson higher in America?

Re: Witter/Nelson/Ingles
Posted: 17 Sep 2006, 02:00
by Autobarn
Max Molyneux wrote:viciousmaussa wrote:Amaroo wrote:
That about says it all. Nelson and Witter. Nelson is a nice guy and is certainly a better TV commentator than he will ever be as a boxer.
Ingles stable rarely seem to get any boxers up against "real" opposition.
Neither Nelson or Witter would survive on the US scene. And, Hatton would have Witter for tea.
absolute tripe
Witter has beaten Bergman, Kotelnik, N'dou and Corley. All top 10. He beat an American in London and an Australian in America. Where do you get off talking that garbage? He totally schooled Corley, really got inside his head, nearly dropped him twice and deserved to win by around 8 points.
Nelson & Witter aren't everone's cup of tea.
But they are excellent defensive fighters.
Nelson has wins over
Ezra Sellers (oh, it was Denmark so I guess it doesn't count even tho he beat a dangerous American)
Dominguez,
Carl Thompson (whom Americans rate above Nelson even tho he is retired and schooled by Nelson!). Anyone think he'd be outclassed by the crude O Neil Bell or the very good but stamina defiicent Mormeck? At least he's willing to actually defend his title.
Look at Bell, allowing himself to get stripped so he doesn't have to fight an awkward foe in Cunningham! Nelson is taking on Maccarinelli next month. Even tho he was told by Drs he'd never fight again he's facing a young power puncher who's rated by publications in the world top 10.
Nelson would have a good chance against Bell. He wouldn't run out of gas like Mormeck and is better skilled.
Why do they rate Thompson higher in America?

Christ only knows. I've seen it in a media poll that I help out with as an administrator, I've seen it in the columns of ppl at maxboxing
Posted: 17 Sep 2006, 06:23
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
WHy you rise to an obvious flamer I'll never know, then again by writing this I have bumped this thread to the top of the page - sorry
Posted: 17 Sep 2006, 09:04
by Razor
Give Witter some credit man he did what was needed to be done, i like him and hope he can be a great champion
