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Sugar Ray Robinson vs Archie Moore

Posted: 24 Sep 2006, 19:49
by Halfamill
I don't know much about the Light Heavyweight division history, so I'm using Archie Moore as the best Light Heavyweight ever in history, now correct me if i'm wrong and state a better light heavyweight. Well anyways lets say Ray Robinson would of survived 2 more rounds and had beaten Joey Maxim back in 1952. Who would of won between Ray Robinson and Archie Moore back then if that fight were made?

Posted: 24 Sep 2006, 20:07
by BoxBuzz
Moore was simply too big, powerful, skilled and talented. What was a grueling and almost losing effort on Maxim's part would not play out that way substituting Archie Moore. Robinson would not be showing up for the last round as with Maxim...but not for the same reasons.

Posted: 24 Sep 2006, 21:24
by Aldo Pravisani
Wow, what a dream match: The greatest lightheavy champion against the greatest middleweight champion!

Who would have won? I prefer to leave the theoretical outcome and my opinion in the land of dreams.

Posted: 25 Sep 2006, 01:44
by Jaclem
..moore would have kayoed robinson, but the fight never would have taken place.....the sugar man's mother gave birth to no stupid children. actually, robinson had no intention of defending the light heavy crown if he had won. he wanted to win the title just for his legacy's sake...and either intented to go back to the middleweight division, or more likely to retire as undefeated champion of both divisions. of course, he did retire after the maxim fight, but the jacob's beach folks thought he was going to even if he had won.


i am in a good mood, so i'll let the "greatest light heavy" go by, as a gift to boxbuzz.

Posted: 25 Sep 2006, 06:55
by sockdolager
Aldo Pravisani wrote:Wow, what a dream match: The greatest lightheavy champion against the greatest middleweight champion!

Who would have won? I prefer to leave the theoretical outcome and my opinion in the land of dreams.
thats a stretch....I think a fight btwn the 2 at 160 would be a closer bout...I made a thread about it and each is not quite at their respectable best at that weight. http://www.boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... +moore+160

To answer your question Halfamill
...Id say Moore would stop Robinson in the later rounds.

Posted: 25 Sep 2006, 07:14
by Flump
I can't help but think of the phrase 'a good big un' beats a good little un'. Moore by UD.

Moore- Robinson

Posted: 25 Sep 2006, 10:37
by bill.lockhart
The greatest fight there never was.
At LH Moore wins it. I don't think Archie would have made middleweight
around the time he won the LH title in 52. Maybe at the amateur heavy middle limit. What is it? 168, I believe. Archie would have a hell of a time making this weight. I like Ray here. Each would best the other in their own weight class. What would this bout generate in to-days dollars?Unreal.

Posted: 25 Sep 2006, 13:19
by Jaclem
..it was only by the tremendous will power (not an australian diet). ..which moore showed in so many aspects of his life...that he could even make the 175 limit when he was defending his title...

this is a fantasy match up only...there was no time in either one's career that a match would have been viable. archie put out a few feelers....the sugarman wisely ignored them.

when the match was being discussed...mostly by archie....one writer (fleischer maybe...not sure) said there was no call for a fight between "two old men trying not to get hurt."

Moore-Robinson

Posted: 25 Sep 2006, 16:58
by bill.lockhart
Jaclem wrote:..it was only by the tremendous will power (not an australian diet). ..which moore showed in so many aspects of his life...that he could even make the 175 limit when he was defending his title...

this is a fantasy match up only...there was no time in either one's career that a match would have been viable. archie put out a few feelers....the sugarman wisely ignored them.

when the match was being discussed...mostly by archie....one writer (fleischer maybe...not sure) said there was no call for a fight between "two old men trying not to get hurt."
It's hard to believe with the money & interest that would have been created it didn't happen, despite what anyone said about it. The 50's were a golden age for sport. This fight would have rivalled any in the history of boxing.

Posted: 25 Sep 2006, 17:08
by DoubleM
Moore would have put a serious whipping on Robinson.