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....i haven't upset the rabble for a while...so....leonard vs the real sugar ray is an obvious win for the latter whenever and however he chooses. so.... there might have been a gavilan/leonard thread a while back.....but if there wasn't, gavilan wins a decision, with even alittle showboating if he was in shape.

emile griffith, the split decison king, takes one from leonard ...takes two in a three fight series.

billy graham has an decent chance....surely goes the distance and it's a close one.

i saw napoles only twice and wasn't impressed so i 'll give this one to the tv house fighter.

chance for an upset?...luis rodriguez. would have to be luis at his very best, though.


...and so to bed...

Griffith-Leonard is a 50-50 fight IMO. Napoles-Leonard would also be very close.

Jaclem, obviously know that you like to run down Leonard. Why don't you hold him in higher regard as a fighter? Specifically, what skills or qualities do you think he lacked as a fighter?

Jaclem doesn't like Leonard because Leonard ran away from the great Aaron Pryor. Aaron chased him right out of the division and Ray never stood up to the one challenger that Jaclem knows would have cleaned his clock.


Submitted By BoxBuzz....Award winning Fiction writer extraordinaire.......

..decagon...i've seen more fights than you've seen or read about combined. ...and except for napoles, which i said i'd seen only twice i saw a lot of the others i mentioned.

i find the agreements i'm getting here....close fights....pleasantly surprising.

boxbuzz steps out of the rabble to inject the needle...

yeah..i should back up my judgements of leonard...whom i consider a very good fighter....wnith reasons, which i shall do when i get time.

Sounds like another poster that Sugar Ray Leonard owes money to!!!!! :P

The only guy I'd have better than even-money for beating Leonard would be Robinson (but there I say SRR beats SRL 9 times out of 10, with the 10th a fishy "draw").

On a somewhat-separate note: Even though I've seen Leonard's career numbers many times, yet I'm always somewhat surprised when I run across his record by way of one of the fighters he faced and am reminded that he only fought 40 times. Of course the eye injury cost him several prime years, but by then he wasn't fighting often anymore anyway - nearly half of those 40 fights came in the first 3 years of his pro career. And he wasn't terribly old (just 34) when he got bitchslapped into retirement by Terry Norris. (I more or less ignore the brief unretirement vs. Camacho 6 years later, although it sounds like that might be Jaclem's personal favorite tape of a Leonard fight. ;)

I can't understand how people can so easily dismiss the abilities of SRL.

He was a truly phenomenal fighter & certainly one of the best in my lifetime.

I believe that Robinson would have to have been at his very best to have beaten Leonard.