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Aaron Pryor
Posted: 17 Oct 2006, 08:29
by Knucklez
How good do you think he was? Both at lightweight and light welter.
Posted: 17 Oct 2006, 09:23
by kick asner
Alot of unrealized potential.
Posted: 17 Oct 2006, 15:28
by BoxBuzz
Not as good as Aaron Perry but better than Arvin Primer.
Posted: 17 Oct 2006, 16:08
by Broncano
Jaclem may want to answer that question... right jac?
Posted: 19 Oct 2006, 17:09
by elmersalsa
He was a great jr welterweight champion that could have been much greater if he would have "just say no".
Posted: 19 Oct 2006, 20:24
by BrocktonBlockbuster49
UH OH! i can smell jaclem out there somewhere!
Posted: 20 Oct 2006, 16:40
by DoubleM
Overrated.
Very good fighter, definitely. Awkward and hard to deal with.
But he's not beating the likes of Duran & Napoles at 140lbs as I've seen & heard some claim.
Posted: 20 Oct 2006, 16:47
by Borinken25
Very similar career to the Samuel Serrano.
Posted: 23 Oct 2006, 03:33
by Jaclem
...sorry guys....i have retired from all pryor commentary.....and would continue to remain absent even if boxbuzz wasn't around...
Posted: 26 Oct 2006, 09:07
by bollox
Jaclem wrote:...sorry guys....i have retired from all pryor commentary.....and would continue to remain absent even if boxbuzz wasn't around...
Jaclem - why did Pryor suffer a lot of early round knockdowns? Explain........
Posted: 26 Oct 2006, 09:55
by overhand_right
Jaclem wrote:...sorry guys....i have retired from all pryor commentary.....and would continue to remain absent even if boxbuzz wasn't around...
No one ever stays retired from anything regarding boxing. I want to drag some more Pryor thoughts from Jaclem even though i've been reading them since 2001 or 02 anyway. Come on Jaclem cut the foreplay, you know your gagging to unleash on The Hawk!
Posted: 26 Oct 2006, 10:31
by silkov
Posted: 26 Oct 2006, 15:57
by silkov
Terence wrote:It is funny that so many people think that an incessant puncher with a solid chin, good shot selection, a decent ticker plus who was expert at cutting the ring off and breaking his opponents heart is overrated.
Aaron Pryor may be easy to beat on a forum but in the ring he would give a lot of people hell. A lot of boxing still takes place in that ol' canvas.
Exactly... I think Pryor also deserves credit for turning his life around outside the ring...
Posted: 26 Oct 2006, 18:46
by BoxBuzz
ok...turning your life around gets some points certainly.....however more points are given for going the right direction to begin with.
Posted: 27 Oct 2006, 02:16
by Jaclem
...okay....i won't go into my general assessment of aaron the fighter....i've said so much already...but....
....i don't recall aaron getting knocked down more than once...maybe twice.....although he did take some hellacious shots. at the start of his career in cincinnati a sports writer misquoted me...claiming i said that aaron couldn't take a punch....which of course was far from the truth....aaron could take a punch....i said he couldn't KEEP ON TAKING THOSE PUNCHES..which is a different thing (he liked to stick his jaw out and invite one to show how tough he was)...and i think his comet-like career gave some credence to my prediction.
his pattern usually went like this:...he'd come out with a furious onslaught and if that didn't take his guy out he'd slow down and box a little more...though staying aggressive but much less so....especially as the fight went on. those who saw him in cincinnati were surprised when he just kept coming against arguello and didn't tire. (I've already said much about the black bottle....probably too much.)
now... this is the first time that i'll disagree with buzzo on a thread about pryor....but it's not about his boxing career.
aaron's early life story could have been written by strephan king....a real horror....most would have been destroyed by it..and aaron too, probably, if buddy larosa hadn't virtually taken over his life and directed him into boxing. even then, his post boxing life was disastrous.....my son saw him conked out in the back of a car and swears he weighed no more than 120 pounds....an anti-narcotic poster guy. again..buddy and some others stepped in and pryor made a remarkable turn around and is a productive citizen.....doing a lot of good work with helping young guys escape from the depths that he himself had risen from.
you all know how i rate him as a fighter....as a human being i rate him very high...
Posted: 27 Oct 2006, 06:46
by silkov
BoxBuzz wrote:ok...turning your life around gets some points certainly.....however more points are given for going the right direction to begin with.
Given Aarons upbringing its hardly surprising that he strayed off the rails is it??.... the remarkable thing imo is that he was able to acheive so much after coming from such a background!... not all of us are so saintly Buzz that we dont make mistakes in our lives, in Aarons case he came from the most dysfunctional of backgrounds... we're not talking here about some spoilt brat born with a silver spoon in their mouth messing up!...

Posted: 27 Oct 2006, 06:49
by silkov
Jaclem wrote:...okay....i won't go into my general assessment of aaron the fighter....i've said so much already...but....
....i don't recall aaron getting knocked down more than once...maybe twice.....although he did take some hellacious shots. at the start of his career in cincinnati a sports writer misquoted me...claiming i said that aaron couldn't take a punch....which of course was far from the truth....aaron could take a punch....i said he couldn't KEEP ON TAKING THOSE PUNCHES..which is a different thing (he liked to stick his jaw out and invite one to show how tough he was)...and i think his comet-like career gave some credence to my prediction.
his pattern usually went like this:...he'd come out with a furious onslaught and if that didn't take his guy out he'd slow down and box a little more...though staying aggressive but much less so....especially as the fight went on. those who saw him in cincinnati were surprised when he just kept coming against arguello and didn't tire. (I've already said much about the black bottle....probably too much.)
now... this is the first time that i'll disagree with buzzo on a thread about pryor....but it's not about his boxing career.
aaron's early life story could have been written by strephan king....a real horror....most would have been destroyed by it..and aaron too, probably, if buddy larosa hadn't virtually taken over his life and directed him into boxing. even then, his post boxing life was disastrous.....my son saw him conked out in the back of a car and swears he weighed no more than 120 pounds....an anti-narcotic poster guy. again..buddy and some others stepped in and pryor made a remarkable turn around and is a productive citizen.....doing a lot of good work with helping young guys escape from the depths that he himself had risen from.
you all know how i rate him as a fighter....as a human being i rate him very high...
I agree totally... 8)
Posted: 27 Oct 2006, 16:01
by Jaclem
..let's not be too hard on buzzy....after all, he himself had a troubled youth....raised by a bisexual eskimo and a diet of whale blubber until he was in his thirties...
Posted: 27 Oct 2006, 17:28
by BoxBuzz
woah....I didnt mean to sound that harsh.....only that life is full of choices and we all have our stories. Pulling ourselves out of the muck is to be respected.......I really didn't have that much venom in my statement.
As for the whale blubber....tastes like chicken....