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Put these MWs in order

Posted: 20 Oct 2006, 07:15
by Ezzard
What order would you put these MWs in? Or which fighters stand out from the rest?

Flowers
Walker
Zale
Cerdan
La Motta
Burley
Tiger
Griffith
Benvenuti
Nunn
Toney
Hopkins

Posted: 20 Oct 2006, 07:17
by JC
At a glance Walker seems quite far ahead of the others.

Re: Put these MWs in order

Posted: 20 Oct 2006, 20:16
by BrocktonBlockbuster49
Ezzard wrote:What order would you put these MWs in? Or which fighters stand out from the rest?

Flowers
Walker
Zale
Cerdan
La Motta
Burley
Tiger
Griffith
Benvenuti
Nunn
Toney
Hopkins

burley
walker
lamotta
tiger
hopkins
flowers
cerdan
griffith
benvenuti
zale
toney
nunn

Re: Put these MWs in order

Posted: 20 Oct 2006, 22:49
by Les Darcy
Ezzard wrote:What order would you put these MWs in? Or which fighters stand out from the rest?

Flowers
Walker
Zale
Cerdan
La Motta
Burley
Tiger
Griffith
Benvenuti
Nunn
Toney
Hopkins
IMO, I'd rank them as follows:

Walker
Burley
Cerdan
La Motta
Hopkins
Flowers
Griffith
Benvenuti
Zale
Toney
Tiger
Nunn

Posted: 21 Oct 2006, 07:57
by JC
Damn, did not notice burley was in there.

Posted: 21 Oct 2006, 08:04
by BoxBuzz
Decagon wrote:Benvenuti
Burley
Cerdan
Flowers
Griffith
Hopkins
La Motta
Nunn
Tiger
Walker
Zale
Ok now that youve alphabetized them....can you put them in order of life long net worth?

(adjusted for inflation of course)

Posted: 21 Oct 2006, 10:02
by DoubleM
1. Hopkins
2. Cerdan
3. Tiger
4. Burley
5. Benvenuti
6. Griffith
7. Walker
8. LaMotta
9. Nunn
10. Flowers
11. Toney
12. Zale

Posted: 21 Oct 2006, 10:38
by Seamus
1. Walker
2. Cerdan
3. Hopkins
4. Burley
5. Flowers
6. Nunn
7. Benvenuti
8. Tiger
9. Griffith
10. LaMotta
11. Zale
12. Toney

Posted: 21 Oct 2006, 23:30
by pundit
Decagon wrote:Benvenuti
Burley
Cerdan
Flowers
Griffith
Hopkins
La Motta
Nunn
Tiger
Walker
Zale
Good one! :lol: :lol:

You didn't reveal thus far that you had a sense of humor....

Posted: 22 Oct 2006, 10:48
by Ambling Alp
A lot of close calls.

1. Walker
2. Griffith
3. Tiger
4. Benevenuti
5. Flowers
6. Hopkins
7. Zale
8. Burley
9. La Motta
10. Cerdan
11. Nunn
12. Toney

Posted: 22 Oct 2006, 14:26
by BrocktonBlockbuster49
DoubleM wrote:1. Hopkins
2. Cerdan
3. Tiger
4. Burley
5. Benvenuti
6. Griffith
7. Walker
8. LaMotta
9. Nunn
10. Flowers
11. Toney
12. Zale
benvenuti over lamotta?? how so?


cerdan over lamotta, burley, tiger?? how so??

Posted: 22 Oct 2006, 14:27
by BrocktonBlockbuster49
Ambling Alp wrote:A lot of close calls.

1. Walker
2. Griffith
3. Tiger
4. Benevenuti
5. Flowers
6. Hopkins
7. Zale
8. Burley
9. La Motta
10. Cerdan
11. Nunn
12. Toney


zale over burley and lamotta??? how is this possible?

Posted: 22 Oct 2006, 14:54
by DoubleM
BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:
DoubleM wrote:1. Hopkins
2. Cerdan
3. Tiger
4. Burley
5. Benvenuti
6. Griffith
7. Walker
8. LaMotta
9. Nunn
10. Flowers
11. Toney
12. Zale
benvenuti over lamotta?? how so?


cerdan over lamotta, burley, tiger?? how so??
benvenuti over lamotta??
Benvenuti was better.
cerdan over lamotta, burley, tiger??
Cerdan was better.

Posted: 23 Oct 2006, 13:22
by Ambling Alp
BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:
Ambling Alp wrote:A lot of close calls.

1. Walker
2. Griffith
3. Tiger
4. Benevenuti
5. Flowers
6. Hopkins
7. Zale
8. Burley
9. La Motta
10. Cerdan
11. Nunn
12. Toney


zale over burley and lamotta??? how is this possible?
Zale, Burley and LaMotta are all very close.
With Zale, if you invoke the "Jersey Joe Walcott Rule"and don't hold the early part of his career too much against him, should be rated very high.

In Zales' last 40 fights, he went 36-4. The losses were to Graziano,Soose, Cerdan, and Conn. All were very good. He was past it when he lost to Cerdan and Conn was a lightheavyweight.
Zale beat Graziano twice, Apostoli three times, Hostak, and Georgie Abrams (Burley only got a draw with Abrams).

Of course La Motta and Burley each had some good wins. However they each had some losses as well.
All three guys, along with several others on this list are very close.

Re: Put these MWs in order

Posted: 09 Feb 2011, 12:28
by Ezzard
5 years on has Hopkins moved up these lists?

Re: Put these MWs in order

Posted: 09 Feb 2011, 14:25
by JC
Are you asking how his achievements above MW have changed his rating in a P4P sense or if anyone's views on his MW resume have changed?

Re: Put these MWs in order

Posted: 10 Feb 2011, 05:12
by Ezzard
Just really asking you to rank them 5 years after I first asked.

Maybe some people think in light of the past 5 years that Hopkins was being underrated back then.