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Who wins this?.The Blade or the G-Man?

G-Man by 1st round destruction.

McClellan by quick and brutal knockout within three rounds!!!

barry shouldnt that have been the scenario for Hearns? Or was tommy too old in your estimation to get the expected result. Or is there something about the G man's style that would give him a greater advantage over Iran?

Give Barkley a bit more respect, he had one of the biggest hearts ever in a fighter and he certainly wouldnt be taken out by McClelan in the first round.

Barkley took everything Hearns had to offer in their first match and took some of the most painful left hooks to the body Id ever seen but he managed to get his big right to KO Hearns out. He also showed good boxing skills against Duran and even after he lost to Benn via 1st round TKO he certainly did not look hurt at all.....infact he hurt Benn in the same round as well.

McClelan wins this but later in the bout, certainly not by a quick KO.

Barkley had a pretty good resume. He had some other good wins besides Hearns. If you allow for some early career losses while he was still green, and discount some of his late career losses when he was way past it, plus given the leavel of competition he fought then I think you could make a case for Iran to give a good acount of himself.

Barkley had the heart of a lion and was one hell of a tough guy. I think he has a chance unless maybe the 3 KO rule applies which is what happened V Benn. Iran is being overlooked here I think, it took a great great display from a peak Toney to beat Iran who was nonstop aggression in that fight and only Toney's amazing skills and chin won him that fight

If The Blade starts swinging back, who knows what might happen?

Then again, it may be over before we even find out.

>>>barry shouldnt that have been the scenario for Hearns? Or was tommy too old in your estimation to get the expected result. Or is there something about the G man's style that would give him a greater advantage over Iran?<<<

McClellan was bigger and more powerful than Hearns...he also probably hit harder, was just as fast, had good technique and a great trainer, but what would have given him the big advantage in my opinion is his size and power. He was arguabally more powerful than Benn and Benn, though in a dirty fight, took Barkley out fast...McClellan would have done much of the same. Hearns should have, but unfortunately Hearns did not have the same kind of durability as a McClellan!

McCellan had no defence & ate up punches though.

Barkley probably hurt in 1st, but you know he's going to hit back, and its difficult to miss G-Man.

And when Barkley smells blood...

Can't understand those picking Gerald by early ko!!... Barkley would be too strong for the G-man... Barkley is as underrated as Gerald is overrated imo... sure he hit hard, but he had basically no defence to speak of and Barkleys opposition vastly outstrips the G-mans... Gerald would start fast and build up an early lead, perhaps hurting Barkley early but Iran would come on strong as the fight progressed and wear Gerald down.... Barkley by ko in about 8 or 9 rounds...

silkov wrote:Can't understand those picking Gerald by early ko!!... Barkley would be too strong for the G-man... Barkley is as underrated as Gerald is overrated imo... sure he hit hard, but he had basically no defence to speak of and Barkleys opposition vastly outstrips the G-mans... Gerald would start fast and build up an early lead, perhaps hurting Barkley early but Iran would come on strong as the fight progressed and wear Gerald down.... Barkley by ko in about 8 or 9 rounds...

McClellan definataly seems vastly over-rated in this thread...

Who did he beat? An old Mugabi and an old Jackson. OK, Jackson was on a roll but he was still past his best. And if the Jackson victories are Gerald's best then I'd say Barkley's 2 victories over Hearns are worth at least as much and probably more.

Didn't someone point out in another thread the need to look at not just the numbers but who someone actually fought before making ridiculous claims? It seems this hasn't been followed here.

Collins2000 wrote:

silkov wrote:Can't understand those picking Gerald by early ko!!... Barkley would be too strong for the G-man... Barkley is as underrated as Gerald is overrated imo... sure he hit hard, but he had basically no defence to speak of and Barkleys opposition vastly outstrips the G-mans... Gerald would start fast and build up an early lead, perhaps hurting Barkley early but Iran would come on strong as the fight progressed and wear Gerald down.... Barkley by ko in about 8 or 9 rounds...

McClellan definataly seems vastly over-rated in this thread...

Who did he beat? An old Mugabi and an old Jackson. OK, Jackson was on a roll but he was still past his best. And if the Jackson victories are Gerald's best then I'd say Barkley's 2 victories over Hearns are worth at least as much and probably more.

Didn't someone point out in another thread the need to look at not just the numbers but who someone actually fought before making ridiculous claims? It seems this hasn't been followed here.

Exactly... most of Geralds victories were over very limited opposition which is why he was able to get away with his limitations for so long... Barkley on other hand had to fight his way to the top through a series of tough battles against dangerous opposition and basically never had a soft fight... I'd bet my house on Iran in this matchup....

McClellan's wins were over aged fighters...check out Barkley's win...his biggest win and pretty much his only noteworthy win was against a used up Hearns...then a loss to the much smaller and much older Duran...a 1st round KO loss to Benn, etc. etc. Exactly what did Barkley do that was impressive other than having an old Hearn's number...nothing really, which let's not forget that Hearns was beating the absolute shit out of him until he landed a lucky shot.

Not to mention that Barkley had less defense than McClellan, he didn't hit as hard, he was older, he was smaller and he sure as hell was not as powerful as McClellan. McClellan had too many weapons for a fighter as limited as Barkley and would steam-roll him! Sure he fought a couple of better fighters, but he lost to that better competition...for it to really count he would have had to win, not lose! His one claim to fame was beating Hearns. McClellan would destroy him just as Benn did, except McClellan would not have to be dirty to do it!

barry wrote:McClellan's wins were over aged fighters...check out Barkley's win...his biggest win and pretty much his only noteworthy win was against a used up Hearns...then a loss to the much smaller and much older Duran...a 1st round KO loss to Benn, etc. etc. Exactly what did Barkley do that was impressive other than having an old Hearn's number...nothing really, which let's not forget that Hearns was beating the absolute shit out of him until he landed a lucky shot.

Not to mention that Barkley had less defense than McClellan, he didn't hit as hard, he was older, he was smaller and he sure as hell was not as powerful as McClellan. McClellan had too many weapons for a fighter as limited as Barkley and would steam-roll him! Sure he fought a couple of better fighters, but he lost to that better competition...for it to really count he would have had to win, not lose! His one claim to fame was beating Hearns. McClellan would destroy him just as Benn did, except McClellan would not have to be dirty to do it!

That's your considered opinion; mine is that Barkley would be a severe test for McClellan. Barkly wasn't an easy guy to steamroll. He survived an early belting from Hearns and Benn had to hit him flush twice while The Blade was down to get him out of there. I just can't see McClellan walking through him.

Of course, these are only opinions, Barry. And neither of us are infallible. Why, only a few days ago we both, after weighing the evidence, were of the opinion that Liakhovich was a certainty to beat Briggs. And we were both completely wrong...

McClellan TKO3 Barkley in a superb war. McClellan only gets beat by smart boxers, and Benn was a smart fighter at the point where he fought McClellan. G-Man had a great chin, superb power, was very fast and brilliant offensively, and didnt have much of a defence. Barkley was a slugger, very tough and intimidating guy and would have had a hell of a go at McClellan. McClellan prevails due to his superior power and cast iron chin

barry wrote:McClellan's wins were over aged fighters...check out Barkley's win...his biggest win and pretty much his only noteworthy win was against a used up Hearns...then a loss to the much smaller and much older Duran...a 1st round KO loss to Benn, etc. etc. Exactly what did Barkley do that was impressive other than having an old Hearn's number...nothing really, which let's not forget that Hearns was beating the absolute shit out of him until he landed a lucky shot.

Not to mention that Barkley had less defense than McClellan, he didn't hit as hard, he was older, he was smaller and he sure as hell was not as powerful as McClellan. McClellan had too many weapons for a fighter as limited as Barkley and would steam-roll him! Sure he fought a couple of better fighters, but he lost to that better competition...for it to really count he would have had to win, not lose! His one claim to fame was beating Hearns. McClellan would destroy him just as Benn did, except McClellan would not have to be dirty to do it!

Whoever steamrolled Barkley???.... only Benn, and that was a freak knockout really. To say Mcclellan would destroy Barkley is just ridiculous!... the Hearns that Barkley beat was better than anyone that Mcclellan beat during his career... Mcclellen was a Tysonesque fighter who when faced with a opponent who fought back didnt know what to do...

For McClellan so much depends upon when the weigh in is.

Barkley is a tough man and would put up resistance. McClellan simply believed his own hype and stopped learning his art and looked to blast people out. Gerald had an ego problem that went unchecked until it was too late.

Overall though I think McClellan can win this one. Both men are there to be hit, both men are durable but Gerald has a much more powerful punch.

I'd go for McClellan after 5 rounds.

Ezzard wrote:For McClellan so much depends upon when the weigh in is.

Barkley is a tough man and would put up resistance. McClellan simply believed his own hype and stopped learning his art and looked to blast people out. Gerald had an ego problem that went unchecked until it was too late.

Overall though I think McClellan can win this one. Both men are there to be hit, both men are durable but Gerald has a much more powerful punch.

I'd go for McClellan after 5 rounds.

The longer it goes the better it would be for Barkley... how many long wars did Mcclellen win?... Barkley would probably be hurt early but would wear Gerald down... he certainly wouldnt be staemrolled imo... Hearns hit as hard as Gerald and was a far better all round fighter and look what Barkley did to him...

silkov wrote:

Ezzard wrote:For McClellan so much depends upon when the weigh in is.

Barkley is a tough man and would put up resistance. McClellan simply believed his own hype and stopped learning his art and looked to blast people out. Gerald had an ego problem that went unchecked until it was too late.

Overall though I think McClellan can win this one. Both men are there to be hit, both men are durable but Gerald has a much more powerful punch.

I'd go for McClellan after 5 rounds.

The longer it goes the better it would be for Barkley... how many long wars did Mcclellen win?... Barkley would probably be hurt early but would wear Gerald down... he certainly wouldnt be staemrolled imo... Hearns hit as hard as Gerald and was a far better all round fighter and look what Barkley did to him...

McClellan was a durable guy though. He took some monster shots off Benn before getting beat. I'm not sure if McClellan ever won a fight that went past 7-8 rounds so it certainly looks better for Barkley.

I don't think Barkley can stop him though.

Whoever steamrolled Barkley???.... only Benn, and that was a freak knockout really. To say Mcclellan would destroy Barkley is just ridiculous!... the Hearns that Barkley beat was better than anyone that Mcclellan beat during his career.

When Hearns fought Barkley he did not have Mcclellan's two fisted power, physical toughness, strenght or chin. Barkley's wide swinging style and face first approach is taylor made for Mcclellan. Barkley would be extremely lucky to survive the first round.

Would have been an excellent match-up -

G-Man's power is one thing that is definitely not "overrated" and he brought "it" with him every time he stepped into the ring (and about with every punch he threw).

Barkley was a warrior....with his biggest win coming over a post-prime Hearns.

Exciting fight......with Barkely hitting the deck twice and being stopped inside of 6 -

barry wrote:McClellan's wins were over aged fighters...check out Barkley's win...his biggest win and pretty much his only noteworthy win was against a used up Hearns...then a loss to the much smaller and much older Duran...a 1st round KO loss to Benn, etc. etc. Exactly what did Barkley do that was impressive other than having an old Hearn's number...nothing really, which let's not forget that Hearns was beating the absolute shit out of him until he landed a lucky shot.

Purely subjective, but I would rate Barkley’s list of opponents as much more impressive than McClellan’s. While some of his wins were over aging fighters, there were a number of very solid names as well. Kinchen was one of the top 5 MW’s at the time of his loss to Barkley, as was Tinley I believe. Olajide was still a top 10 fighter, Sanderline Williams was a tough fringe contender when the Blade beat him, and his loss to Kalambay was a great learning experience. Of course, there are many other very good names on his resume, but many were later in his career when he was moving up weight classes, and I think we’re discussing a MW Barkley here.

Experience aside, I think I’d still give the edge to McClellan, but I think it would have been a very exciting war for as long as it lasted.

This could depend on if Gerald messed with Iran's dog. Barkley being a dog lover would have added incentive in that case.

BoxBuzz wrote:This could depend on if Gerald messed with Iran's dog. Barkley being a dog lover would have added incentive in that case.

WOOF WOOF!!....