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100 Hardest Punching Fighters of All-Time
Posted: 18 Nov 2006, 08:33
by barry
Being that I have never tried to compile any lists over Top 20, or Top 30, I figured that I might as well try to put together a Top 100 list and see how challenging it would be to do so. Well...it's very challenging and though I have 100 listed in order, I still have a bit of re-arranging to do to the lower 50. Right now the 100 fighters that I picked will pretty much remain, though I may add a fighter and drop one a couple of times, but for the most part the 100 listed now are the 100 that I want to keep. Now 1 through 10 is pretty solid and pretty much as I want it and the same can be said for 11 thru 20, but the rest gets a bit tricky! Anyway, below is my list of the “100 Hardest Punching Fighters of All-Time.”
100 Hardest Punching Fighters of All-Time
1 Sam Langford
2 Bob Fitzsimmons
3 Jimmy Wilde
4 “Barbados” Joe Walcott
5 Peter Maher
6 Ruben Olivares
7 Terry McGovern
8 George Chaney
9 Earnie Shavers
10 Carlos Zarate
11 Danny Lopez
12 Aurelio Herrera
13 Jack Dempsey
14 Bob Satterfield
15 Ricardo Moreno
16 Pipino Cuevas
17 Stanley Ketchel
18 Julian Jackson
19 Wilfredo Gomez
20 Henry Armstrong
21 Sandy Saddler
22 Joe Louis
23 Al Foreman
24 Bob Foster
25 Jesus Pimentel
26 Max Baer
27 Florentino Fernandez
28 Tommy Gomez
29 George Foreman
30 Khaosai Galaxy
31 Thomas Hearns
32 Archie Moore
33 Vic Patrick
34 “Sugar” Ray Robinson
35 Charley Retzlaff
36 Julio Cesar Chavez
37 Charles Ledoux
38 “Bombardier” Billy Wells
39 Jaime Garza
40 John Mugabi
41 Bob Murphy
42 Alfonso Zamora
43 Alexis Arguello
44 George Odwell
45 Jack Dillon
46 Rodolfo Gonzalez
47 Atilio Caraune
48 Mike Tyson
49 “Tiger” Jack Fox
50 Mike Cleary
51 Ray Actis
52 Curtis Sheppard
53 Rocky Marciano
54 Young Otto
55 Roberto Duran
56 Lew Jenkins
57 Eder Jofre
58 Nigel Benn
59 Joe Gans
60 Rocky Graziano
61 Gerald McClellan
62 Edwin Rosario
63 Naseem Hamed
64 Jock McAvoy
65 Eduardo Lausse
66 Charley Riley
67 Harry Balsamo
68 Jose Maria Gatica
69 Young Mitchell
70 Sam McVey
71 Tommy Collins
72 Billy Petrolle
73 Tommy Burns
74 Rafael Merentino
75 Charley Burley
76 Paul Berlenbach
77 Art Aragon
78 Jackie Paterson
79 Wilfredo Vazquez
80 Pat Killen
81 Mickey Walker
82 Marvin Johnson
83 George Godfrey
84 Eric Boon
85 Ricardo Lopez
86 Pascual Perez
87 Jose Luis Ramirez
88 Alabama Kid
89 In-Chul Baek
90 Jimmy Barry
91 Tony Mundine
92 Phil Zwick
93 Allen Matthews
94 Fernando Gagnon
95 Knockout Brown
96 George Kapeen
97 Chango Carmona
98 Chong Pal Park
99 Joey DeJohn
100 Al “Bummy” Davis
Let the disagreements begin!!!
Posted: 18 Nov 2006, 09:06
by Bard of Boxrec
You missed Ivan Calderon
Re: 100 Hardest Punching Fighters of All-Time
Posted: 18 Nov 2006, 09:09
by pound per pound
barry wrote:Being that I have never tried to compile any lists over Top 20, or Top 30, I figured that I might as well try to put together a Top 100 list and see how challenging it would be to do so. Well...it's very challenging and though I have 100 listed in order, I still have a bit of re-arranging to do to the lower 50. Right now the 100 fighters that I picked will pretty much remain, though I may add a fighter and drop one a couple of times, but for the most part the 100 listed now are the 100 that I want to keep. Now 1 through 10 is pretty solid and pretty much as I want it and the same can be said for 11 thru 20, but the rest gets a bit tricky! Anyway, below is my list of the “100 Hardest Punching Fighters of All-Time.”
100 Hardest Punching Fighters of All-Time
1 Sam Langford
2 Bob Fitzsimmons
3 Jimmy Wilde
4 “Barbados” Joe Walcott
5 Peter Maher - much lower
6 Ruben Olivares
7 Terry McGovern
8 George Chaney
9 Earnie Shavers
10 Carlos Zarate
11 Danny Lopez
12 Aurelio Herrera
13 Jack Dempsey
14 Bob Satterfield - lower
15 Ricardo Moreno
16 Pipino Cuevas
17 Stanley Ketchel
18 Julian Jackson - higher
19 Wilfredo Gomez
20 Henry Armstrong - lower
21 Sandy Saddler - lower
22 Joe Louis
23 Al Foreman
24 Bob Foster - higher
25 Jesus Pimentel
26 Max Baer
27 Florentino Fernandez
28 Tommy Gomez
29 George Foreman
30 Khaosai Galaxy
31 Thomas Hearns - higher
32 Archie Moore
33 Vic Patrick
34 “Sugar” Ray Robinson
35 Charley Retzlaff
36 Julio Cesar Chavez
37 Charles Ledoux
38 “Bombardier” Billy Wells
39 Jaime Garza
40 John Mugabi
41 Bob Murphy
42 Alfonso Zamora
43 Alexis Arguello
44 George Odwell
45 Jack Dillon - much lower
46 Rodolfo Gonzalez
47 Atilio Caraune
48 Mike Tyson - much higher
49 “Tiger” Jack Fox
50 Mike Cleary
51 Ray Actis
52 Curtis Sheppard
53 Rocky Marciano
54 Young Otto
55 Roberto Duran - lower
56 Lew Jenkins
57 Eder Jofre
58 Nigel Benn
59 Joe Gans
60 Rocky Graziano
61 Gerald McClellan
62 Edwin Rosario
63 Naseem Hamed
64 Jock McAvoy
65 Eduardo Lausse
66 Charley Riley
67 Harry Balsamo
68 Jose Maria Gatica
69 Young Mitchell
70 Sam McVey - much lower
71 Tommy Collins
72 Billy Petrolle
73 Tommy Burns
74 Rafael Merentino
75 Charley Burley
76 Paul Berlenbach
77 Art Aragon
78 Jackie Paterson
79 Wilfredo Vazquez
80 Pat Killen
81 Mickey Walker
82 Marvin Johnson
83 George Godfrey - lower, not rated
84 Eric Boon
85 Ricardo Lopez- higher
86 Pascual Perez
87 Jose Luis Ramirez
88 Alabama Kid
89 In-Chul Baek
90 Jimmy Barry
91 Tony Mundine
92 Phil Zwick
93 Allen Matthews
94 Fernando Gagnon
95 Knockout Brown
96 George Kapeen
97 Chango Carmona
98 Chong Pal Park - never heard of him.
99 Joey DeJohn
100 Al “Bummy” Davis
Let the disagreements begin!!!
Not an easy list to compile in a pound per pound sense. Good over all effort. I made some notes next to some fighter’s names if I felt they should be lower or higher.
For modern fighters I do beleive fighters like Liston, Morrison, and the in shape 225 pound Tua belong.
For old timers, Choynski, Cerdan, Young Stribling, and John L. Sullivan.
It is hard for 230+ pound fighter to make this list, but I do beleive modern giants such as Lewis, Bowe, W. Klitschko should make the list.
Posted: 18 Nov 2006, 09:42
by Expug
Strong list Barry.
Would you consider Artie Levine ?
I have never seen any film of him but its said that he was a viscous puncher and almost k.o.d a young Robinson.
re
Posted: 18 Nov 2006, 10:33
by barry
Levine was in my list of 800 total hard punchers that I put together and picked from. Levine could very easily be in the top 100 and it wouldn't get any argument from me!
Posted: 18 Nov 2006, 10:52
by silkov
Posted: 18 Nov 2006, 11:12
by BoxBuzz
Excellent effort....hurts just to see that much punching power listed.
Posted: 18 Nov 2006, 11:22
by JC
Nice one Barry
38 “Bombardier” Billy Wells
Interesting to see Billy Wells so high, didn't know he was considered to be one of the all time hardest punchers. Always thought he must be an interesting character.
re
Posted: 18 Nov 2006, 13:54
by barry
Actually, Wells hurt pretty much everyone that he managed to hit, but whenever an opponent was able to withstand his punch, Wells was then in big trouble as his chin was one of the more fragile heavyweight chins in history.
Nevertheless, Wells was a very exciting fighter with really good skill and a very poor chin. He was one of those types that would either knock you out, or suffer a knockout, which every one of his losses were by the knockout route.
Wells falls into the group of heavy-fisted, light-chinned fighters along with the likes of Peter Maher, who hit just about as hard as any heavyweight in history though his chin seemed to be weaker than Wells', George Chaney, who always got the most praise from writers and fighters of his day for being one of the hardest hitting fighters to ever step foot in the ring, Bob Satterfield, Tommy Morrison, Danny Lopez, though Lopez went down a lot he usually got back up, Ricardo Moreno, Florentino Fernandez, George Kapeen, etc…these guys could knock a guys head off, yet most of them had chins that were vulnerable to even a good shot-gun jab. They all went down hard at times, but it was always an exciting experience and Wells is right there in league with the most exciting fighters of all-time.
Posted: 18 Nov 2006, 14:16
by JC
He's also the guy who hits the gong at the start of old films.
Barry, do you know anything about his supposed fight with Jack Johnson in 1911 ever took place? It was mentioned briefly in a book I read a little while ago, and CBZ has it down with result unknown.
I promise not to change my screen name to the Bombardier50Project.
Re: 100 Hardest Punching Fighters of All-Time
Posted: 18 Nov 2006, 14:51
by Borinken25
barry wrote:Being that I have never tried to compile any lists over Top 20, or Top 30, I figured that I might as well try to put together a Top 100 list and see how challenging it would be to do so. Well...it's very challenging and though I have 100 listed in order, I still have a bit of re-arranging to do to the lower 50. Right now the 100 fighters that I picked will pretty much remain, though I may add a fighter and drop one a couple of times, but for the most part the 100 listed now are the 100 that I want to keep. Now 1 through 10 is pretty solid and pretty much as I want it and the same can be said for 11 thru 20, but the rest gets a bit tricky! Anyway, below is my list of the “100 Hardest Punching Fighters of All-Time.”
100 Hardest Punching Fighters of All-Time
1 Sam Langford
2 Bob Fitzsimmons
3 Jimmy Wilde
4 “Barbados” Joe Walcott
5 Peter Maher
6 Ruben Olivares
7 Terry McGovern
8 George Chaney
9 Earnie Shavers
10 Carlos Zarate
11 Danny Lopez
12 Aurelio Herrera
13 Jack Dempsey
14 Bob Satterfield
15 Ricardo Moreno
16 Pipino Cuevas
17 Stanley Ketchel
18 Julian Jackson
19 Wilfredo Gomez-HIGHER
20 Henry Armstrong
21 Sandy Saddler
22 Joe Louis
23 Al Foreman
24 Bob Foster
25 Jesus Pimentel
26 Max Baer
27 Florentino Fernandez
28 Tommy Gomez
29 George Foreman-HIGHER
30 Khaosai Galaxy
31 Thomas Hearns-HIGHER
32 Archie Moore
33 Vic Patrick
34 “Sugar” Ray Robinson
35 Charley Retzlaff
36 Julio Cesar Chavez-LOWER
37 Charles Ledoux
38 “Bombardier” Billy Wells
39 Jaime Garza
40 John Mugabi
41 Bob Murphy
42 Alfonso Zamora
43 Alexis Arguello
44 George Odwell
45 Jack Dillon
46 Rodolfo Gonzalez
47 Atilio Caraune
48 Mike Tyson-HIGHER
49 “Tiger” Jack Fox
50 Mike Cleary
51 Ray Actis
52 Curtis Sheppard
53 Rocky Marciano-HIGHER
54 Young Otto
55 Roberto Duran-HIGHER
56 Lew Jenkins
57 Eder Jofre
58 Nigel Benn
59 Joe Gans
60 Rocky Graziano
61 Gerald McClellan
62 Edwin Rosario-WAY HIGHER
63 Naseem Hamed
64 Jock McAvoy
65 Eduardo Lausse
66 Charley Riley
67 Harry Balsamo
68 Jose Maria Gatica
69 Young Mitchell
70 Sam McVey
71 Tommy Collins
72 Billy Petrolle
73 Tommy Burns
74 Rafael Merentino
75 Charley Burley
76 Paul Berlenbach
77 Art Aragon
78 Jackie Paterson
79 Wilfredo Vazquez
80 Pat Killen
81 Mickey Walker
82 Marvin Johnson
83 George Godfrey
84 Eric Boon
85 Ricardo Lopez
86 Pascual Perez
87 Jose Luis Ramirez
88 Alabama Kid
89 In-Chul Baek
90 Jimmy Barry
91 Tony Mundine
92 Phil Zwick
93 Allen Matthews
94 Fernando Gagnon
95 Knockout Brown
96 George Kapeen
97 Chango Carmona
98 Chong Pal Park
99 Joey DeJohn
100 Al “Bummy” Davis
Let the disagreements begin!!!
Like always great work Barry and did point out my slight disagreements and I think you should consider puting Felix Trinidad in that list.
Posted: 18 Nov 2006, 16:55
by Senya13
The hardest punching heavyweight left-hooker in history is not even on the list?
Posted: 18 Nov 2006, 18:00
by Taylor
Peter Maher at number 5?....
Posted: 18 Nov 2006, 18:27
by Friedie
Where are the Europeans ?
Ingemar Johannsson
Max Schmeling
Lennox Lewis
Posted: 18 Nov 2006, 18:36
by JC
Friedie wrote:Where are the Europeans ?
Ingemar Johannsson
Max Schmeling
Lennox Lewis
Dude, you really love Max Schmeling
Posted: 18 Nov 2006, 18:42
by Friedie
J-C wrote:Friedie wrote:Where are the Europeans ?
Ingemar Johannsson
Max Schmeling
Lennox Lewis
Dude, you really love Max Schmeling
Yes...he was great.
Posted: 18 Nov 2006, 19:00
by pundit
Friedie wrote:Where are the Europeans ?
Ingemar Johannsson
Max Schmeling
Lennox Lewis
None of them was a real puncher. Maybe Ingemar at the margin. Max and Lennox were systematic, intelligent defensive fighters who outthought their opponents.
Posted: 18 Nov 2006, 20:12
by lvlarc
Good list but no Tito or Lewis is abit shocking. I'd have Moore, Tyson and Foreman higher too.
Posted: 19 Nov 2006, 00:00
by JAHamilton77
Did you not consider anyone who is active right now for you list?
Or did you feel that no one today hit hard enough to be considered?
Posted: 19 Nov 2006, 12:05
by KOJOE90
Eugene Hart had a savage left hook.
Posted: 19 Nov 2006, 13:12
by Syntax Error
Superb list barry.
You won't get any arguments from me, because I couldn't even begin to compile a top 100 p4p list.
I could come up with a different one every time I thought about it.
Posted: 19 Nov 2006, 13:26
by Ric
Domenico Bernasconi belongs somewhere on this list.
Posted: 19 Nov 2006, 13:52
by dr_devious
Good list Barry, what about Rodrigo Valdez and Manny Pac?
Posted: 19 Nov 2006, 14:01
by DoubleM
A good set of names. Some more worthy of consideration - Rodrigo Valdez, Lennox Lewis, Andy Ganigan, Maxie Rosenbloom, Ike Williams.
Posted: 19 Nov 2006, 14:05
by JC
DoubleM wrote:A good set of names. Some more worthy of consideration - Rodrigo Valdez, Lennox Lewis, Andy Ganigan, Maxie Rosenbloom, Ike Williams.
That one is a joke surely?