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Khan-Augustus
Posted: 14 Dec 2006, 11:16
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
When do you think Amir would be ready for everyones favourate journeyman? I know it will happen no time soon but maybe in a years time. This would be a good fight and great learning experience with the bag of tricks Augustus has. In many ways Augustus is world class and experience against such a fighter would be great. It would be 2sided but Amirs workrate and speed should be enough to pull out a decision. I actually doubt SN would put Khan in with such a dangerous journeyman sadly.
On another note wouldn't anyone else like to see Augustus get a world title shot? Witter-Augustus would most likely be a bad clash of styles.
Posted: 14 Dec 2006, 11:27
by jamesmcdonnell
Khan's not ready for someone as skilled as Augustus, he'd old man Khan badly and I think might even give him a pretty bad whooping. He's very quick is Augustus, and lovely shot selection.
Posted: 14 Dec 2006, 12:42
by glittermonkey
I totally agree. Augustus is far too experienced for Khan, and at this stage of their respective careers, far too good. In fact I'd go so far as to say that he's the best journeymen out there, maybe I wouldn't even use that term. Khan's nowhere near ready for domestic titles yet, let alone a solid top twenty operator. It'll be a good few years before an opponent like this will even be considered.
Posted: 14 Dec 2006, 12:46
by TerribleTerry
Augusta stood Thaxton on his head years ago and Jono would have too much for the Golden Boy at this stage.
Augusta might have a journeyman's record but he has the skills of a world champ.
Khan wont be ready for that kind of challenge for a long, lomng time based on recent showings.
Posted: 14 Dec 2006, 12:54
by salaco
Right now, Augustus would clown Khan...the latters is too sloppy and doesn't have the guile to react to a crafty fcuker like augustus...
Posted: 14 Dec 2006, 14:25
by stujones
Completely agree with TerribleTerry there. I was really impressed with Augustus last week.... thought he wasn't given the respect he deserves by the likes of Nelson. Who said when he steps up he loses, quite often it is at short notice or he is controvesial. Never been outclass when he steps up.
Here's a prediction. If Augustus fought Witter, I would back Emmanuel. Think Hatton vs Augustus now is still a really intriguing fight. Would MUCH prefer that than Urango.
Posted: 14 Dec 2006, 14:49
by Old bones Ian
So is Augustus a good boxer who's overachieved in his wins?, or a good boxer who hasn't done his skills justice in his losses?
its always hard to tell, Augustus holds good wins over boxers such as Courtney Burton, Trujillo, Finger, Thaxton etc. But equally he has lost to alot of boxers at fringe and world class.
One thing is he's always entertaining, and certainly talks a good fight.
Posted: 14 Dec 2006, 14:59
by stujones
topper123 wrote:So is Augustus a good boxer who's overachieved in his wins?, or a good boxer who hasn't done his skills justice in his losses?
its always hard to tell, Augustus holds good wins over boxers such as Courtney Burton, Trujillo, Finger, Thaxton etc. But equally he has lost to alot of boxers at fringe and world class.
One thing is he's always entertaining, and certainly talks a good fight.
It is hard to tell, especially as half his defeats happened before the Thaxton fight.
I would be inclined to think the latter, he has that Journeyman mentality. Always seems to do enough to warrant a quick re-booking but most of the time not enough to secure the win (or sometimes isn't helped by the judges). His performances vs Micky Ward and Courtney Burton 1 were practically polar opposites, but equally impressive.
Looking at his record though he has lost some decisions quite comprehensively..... i.e. Kelson Pinto. Having seen Pinto, its hard to imaging him beating Augustus. He has beaten fighters better than Pinto.
Posted: 14 Dec 2006, 15:24
by Old bones Ian
Yeah he's ceratinly a puzzler, with his fast hands and good chin you'd think he'd of had a real chance against Pinto, but maybe he's just happy to get the payday, and the ambition isn't there.
Posted: 14 Dec 2006, 16:41
by steve689
jamesmcdonnell wrote:He's very quick is Augustus
That statement sounds very Boxing News Mr McDonnell! I think it is a Tony Connelly favourite
Posted: 14 Dec 2006, 17:22
by salaco
stujones wrote:topper123 wrote:So is Augustus a good boxer who's overachieved in his wins?, or a good boxer who hasn't done his skills justice in his losses?
its always hard to tell, Augustus holds good wins over boxers such as Courtney Burton, Trujillo, Finger, Thaxton etc. But equally he has lost to alot of boxers at fringe and world class.
One thing is he's always entertaining, and certainly talks a good fight.
It is hard to tell, especially as half his defeats happened before the Thaxton fight.
I would be inclined to think the latter, he has that Journeyman mentality. Always seems to do enough to warrant a quick re-booking but most of the time not enough to secure the win (or sometimes isn't helped by the judges). His performances vs Micky Ward and Courtney Burton 1 were practically polar opposites, but equally impressive.
Looking at his record though he has lost some decisions quite comprehensively..... i.e. Kelson Pinto. Having seen Pinto, its hard to imaging him beating Augustus. He has beaten fighters better than Pinto.
Pinto used the weis fight as his blueprint..pop the jab, mix it with a few rights, keep moving, nothing particularly special...augustus isn't that great, I think Khan, in a few fights, could do the same...
Posted: 14 Dec 2006, 17:41
by Taki...
Augustus on a good night would probably beat Khan at this point, but having said that Augustus does switch between awesome and awful on fight to fight basis.
Posted: 19 Dec 2006, 13:05
by THEBUTCH
If this match took place next (i.e Feb 2007), Augustus would piss all over Khan.
Interesting thought, but not going to happen.
Posted: 19 Dec 2006, 13:56
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
Ok another thought, Augustus wanted the Hatton job for a few years pre-Tyszu, anyone think Augustus on his best night may have upset Ricky back then?
Posted: 19 Dec 2006, 14:01
by THEBUTCH
Not a snowballs chance in hell, but it would have been a very entertaining fight.
Posted: 19 Dec 2006, 15:01
by silkov
I wouldnt be too surprised to see Khan fight Augustus for a vacant world title in about 2 years time, but having said that he would probably be seen as too risky even then.... the attraction though would be that Augustus cant really punch and isnt getting any younger... if they fought now though Augustus would school Khan and to be honest theres no gurentee that Amir will improve that much in 12 or 18 months as he hasnt shown that much improvement in the last year... in fact I think he's been going back!...
Posted: 19 Dec 2006, 15:16
by hitman_hatton1
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Ok another thought, Augustus wanted the Hatton job for a few years pre-Tyszu, anyone think Augustus on his best night may have upset Ricky back then?
no.
but he would have given him a tougher nights work than virtually everyone that hatton has ever boxed.
he was always an opponent i didn't want hatton to box on the way thru.
Posted: 19 Dec 2006, 15:35
by TheRock
Anyone got video clip of Augusta?
Never seen his fight before.
Posted: 19 Dec 2006, 18:25
by TerribleTerry
Posted: 19 Dec 2006, 20:03
by TheRock
Thanks!
I am very impressive! Augusta remind me Naseem Hamed. Khan is not ready to fight him in 2007.
Posted: 19 Dec 2006, 20:46
by states
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Ok another thought, Augustus wanted the Hatton job for a few years pre-Tyszu, anyone think Augustus on his best night may have upset Ricky back then?
If I remember rightly, he also wanted the job post-Tszyu as well. But either way, no, I don't think he could beat Hatton. Hugely entertaining fighter, but there's a reason why he doesn't have a breakout win.
That said, I wouldn't have minded seeing him as a WBU opponent for Hatton. That's about his level at the end of the day.
Posted: 19 Dec 2006, 20:59
by Arbachakov
Augustus is slow, has very little power at world level and doesn't really have any snap or leverage in his shots.
Basically a very limited but awkward spoiler and a kind of poor version of Sanderline Williams\Kirkland Laing.
IF Khan is a real prospect on the level of past British greats like Buchanan, Conteh and Lewis then he should be slaughtering someone of Augustus skillset within the next year or two.
Right now, Augustus may be too awkward for him.
Posted: 20 Dec 2006, 04:54
by Lenny
Love watching those clips of Ward v Augustus again, either one would have been a great opponent for Hatton during his WBU reign and provided a fantastic fight. Shame people put up these great clips on youtube with the worst crap as a soundtrack, just leave the commentary.