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Best on Britain?.

HOW?.


Dann already beat Elcock? so how can the winner of Mcdermott and Elcock be the best in Britain'?.


http://www.britishboxing.net/news_1991- ... Fight.html

Change the record.

Listen, there is no guarentess on Dann fighting again. And, as i have said in the article, if Howard moves onto the world stage once more then this fight would determine the best 160lb fighter in Britain.

Anyway, it's all conjecture at the moment.

Sure, maybe i should have used "Could" instead of "Would". But who knows? By the time the fight comes around it could be who's the best in Britain at middleweight.

Dann may have had to retire, Eastman could retire after losing another international contest...

Who knows?

If you don't like it, don't read it.

Tom Podmore.

Podmore_Birmingham wrote:Oh eff offf D.G

Listen, there is no guarentess on Dann fighting again, and, as said in the article, if Howard moves onto the world stage again, then this fight will determine the best in Britain.

Anyway, it's all if's and but's.

If you don't like it, don't read it.

Tom Podmore.

Calm down boy - if you don't like what people say - don't write an article.

Best in Britian?.

I doubt if Elcock would beat Lockett or Ryan Rhodes and we all know ,y view on Elcock Vs Richard Williams.


Take the blinkers off, son.

I've got no bones about people criticising, voicing their opinions, etc. What i do have a problem with is you picking up on the odd words.

You see to have a vendetta against:

A. Me.
B. Wayne Elcock and Darren McDermott.

Blinkers? Don't make me laugh, you though Williams would beat Eastman. Oh come one Rhodes, who got whipped by Lee Blundell who was knocked out by Bendall who was knocked out by Elcock. Sure, formlines mean little but it does reflect favourably on Wayne.

Listen, we’ll see if and when Elcock gets his chance, ok?

Tom Podmore.

Podmore_Birmingham wrote:I've got no bones about people criticising, voicing their opinions, etc. What i do have a problem with is you picking up on the odd words.

You see to have a vendetta against:

A. Me.
B. Wayne Elcock and Darren McDermott.

Blinkers? Don't make me laugh, you though Williams would beat Eastman. Oh come one Rhodes, who got whipped by Lee Blundell who was knocked out by Bendall who was knocked out by Elcock. Sure, formlines mean little but it does reflect favourably on Wayne.

Listen, we’ll see if and when Elcock gets his chance, ok?

Tom Podmore.

Vendetta against you? - who are you?.

Mcdermott and Elcock? -I think not.


YOU make headline grabbing statements like BEST in BRITAIN and expect no one to comment?.

YES I SAID RW BEATS HE AND SO DID MANY OTHERS..


No way on earth does Elcock or Mcdermott beat Howard or even compete.


Wasn't Elcock knocked out by Lawrence Murphy who was battered by Farnell who was stopped by Tak ( at Light Middle) whose head almost flew off against Wayne Alexander?.


Formlines?.

How long do you think Elcockk lasts with Eastman?.


No vendetta at all - just think you are going WAAAAAYYYY Overboard.


Its nothing personal.

Elcock battered Farnell, didnt he? And he avenged the loss to Murphy.

I said it COULD be the best in Britain. Never said it would be. Sure, maybe i should have worded it better in hindsight, but what can i do.

When was the last time you saw McDermott fight, eh? On some SN undercard years ago.

I have nothing against Richard Williams but, in my opinion, Elcock and McDermott beat him - hell, Macklin beats him too.

Anyway, he's through

Tom Podmore.

Podmore_Birmingham wrote:Elcock battered Farnell, didnt he? And he avenged the loss to Murphy.

I said it COULD be the best in Britain. Never said it would be. Sure, maybe i should have worded it better in hindsight, but what can i do.

When was the last time you saw McDermott fight, eh? On some SN undercard years ago.

I have nothing against Richard Williams but, in my opinion, Elcock and McDermott beat him - hell, Macklin beats him too.

Anyway, he's through

Tom Podmore.

You know less about boxing than I thought!

In YOUR opinion Elcock and Mcdermott beat King Kong.

Ha-Ha! I'll give you that one.

Now i'm realistic, i dont think Wayne would beat Eastman, and i think that Wayne is strictly domestic level. However, i think he would give Eastman a good fight. Williams give Eastman a good fight and Williams has never beaten anyone of note at middleweight. Talent: Wayne and Williams both have talent and thats what make them able to compete against the Eastman's.

As i have said, i have nothing against you or Williams, who has been a solid fighter over the years - albeit one that was always a tad overated.

I'd like nothing better for Wayne and Williams to fight - it would settle this argument once and for all. I'm sure Wayne would like it too.

As for Macca, you'll see, you'll see.

Tom Podmore.

Seems like this is a midlands vs london thing going on ! I can understand you both fighting your 'mans' corner as it was. I reckon you should both get it on in the ring !!! lol

Podmore_Birmingham wrote:Ha-Ha! I'll give you that one.

Now i'm realistic, i dont think Wayne would beat Eastman, and i think that Wayne is strictly domestic level. However, i think he would give Eastman a good fight. Williams give Eastman a good fight and Williams has never beaten anyone of note at middleweight. Talent: Wayne and Williams both have talent and thats what make them able to compete against the Eastman's.

As i have said, i have nothing against you or Williams, who has been a solid fighter over the years - albeit one that was always a tad overated.

I'd like nothing better for Wayne and Williams to fight - it would settle this argument once and for all. I'm sure Wayne would like it too.

As for Macca, you'll see, you'll see.

Tom Podmore.

Podmore - remember there is nothing personal at all in what I say.






I would not rate Wayne Elcock as having the ability of Richard Williams.

IMO - Elcock has been exposed chin wise..

Be interesting to see how Mcdermott comes along though.

Williams still beats them!

WolvesLad wrote:Seems like this is a midlands vs london thing going on ! I can understand you both fighting your 'mans' corner as it was. I reckon you should both get it on in the ring !!! lol

Once I have KOed Ben Carey and that other iNTERNET pudendum Spud .

Me and Poodmore can get it on!


Only joking lads!

I'll draw a line under the matter by saying that Wayne doesn't have a chin problem - Murphy knocked him out after a shot to the temple. Apart from Yuri Tsarenko, who had just beaten Gary Lockett, no one has really shook Wayne with a punch to his supposed 'china' chin.

Dann couldn't.

Judge for yourself on Macca - his next fight is shown on Channel Five a week after the fight. He'll give Rhodes a beating, although i doubt it will be as quick as the 105 seconds Wayne took to beat him

Tom Podmore.

wayne elcock is leagues below richard williams in terms of ability. i would love them to get it on, and i would have a hefty wack with anyone who thinks that elcock wins !!

rhino222 wrote:wayne elcock is leagues below richard williams in terms of ability. i would love them to get it on, and i would have a hefty wack with anyone who thinks that elcock wins !!

You speak the truth. RW knocks out Wayne and qucik.


Respect Podmore - good you support Mcdermott - I will watch the broadcast!.

So, is it open season on net writers?

Podmore_Birmingham wrote:I'll draw a line under the matter by saying that Wayne doesn't have a chin problem - Murphy knocked him out after a shot to the temple. Apart from Yuri Tsarenko, who had just beaten Gary Lockett, no one has really shook Wayne with a punch to his supposed 'china' chin.

Dann couldn't.

Judge for yourself on Macca - his next fight is shown on Channel Five a week after the fight. He'll give Rhodes a beating, although i doubt it will be as quick as the 105 seconds Wayne took to beat him

Tom Podmore.

i think(and its only an opinion )rhodes(ryan not darren) beats macca and elcock if the real rhodes turned up for the fight.


M.T.G

WolvesLad wrote:Seems like this is a midlands vs london thing going on ! I can understand you both fighting your 'mans' corner as it was. I reckon you should both get it on in the ring !!! lol

Welcome to a fellow Wolves fight fan!! There aren't many of us about

steve689 wrote:

WolvesLad wrote:Seems like this is a midlands vs london thing going on ! I can understand you both fighting your 'mans' corner as it was. I reckon you should both get it on in the ring !!! lol

Welcome to a fellow Wolves fight fan!! There aren't many of us about

Not many about?. What do you expect - they are shite!..

DG. wrote:

Podmore_Birmingham wrote:Ha-Ha! I'll give you that one.

Now i'm realistic, i dont think Wayne would beat Eastman, and i think that Wayne is strictly domestic level. However, i think he would give Eastman a good fight. Williams give Eastman a good fight and Williams has never beaten anyone of note at middleweight. Talent: Wayne and Williams both have talent and thats what make them able to compete against the Eastman's.

As i have said, i have nothing against you or Williams, who has been a solid fighter over the years - albeit one that was always a tad overated.

I'd like nothing better for Wayne and Williams to fight - it would settle this argument once and for all. I'm sure Wayne would like it too.

As for Macca, you'll see, you'll see.

Tom Podmore.

Podmore - remember there is nothing personal at all in what I say.






I would not rate Wayne Elcock as having the ability of Richard Williams.

IMO - Elcock has been exposed chin wise..

Be interesting to see how Mcdermott comes along though.

Williams still beats them!

You could say the same thing about Williams having been exposed... he looks good but lacks that extra gear and durability to take him past the domestic level... I dont care where a fighter comes from, Williams vs Elcock is a very close fight however you look at it and I'd favour Elcock slightly...

silkov wrote:

DG. wrote:

Podmore_Birmingham wrote:Ha-Ha! I'll give you that one.

Now i'm realistic, i dont think Wayne would beat Eastman, and i think that Wayne is strictly domestic level. However, i think he would give Eastman a good fight. Williams give Eastman a good fight and Williams has never beaten anyone of note at middleweight. Talent: Wayne and Williams both have talent and thats what make them able to compete against the Eastman's.

As i have said, i have nothing against you or Williams, who has been a solid fighter over the years - albeit one that was always a tad overated.

I'd like nothing better for Wayne and Williams to fight - it would settle this argument once and for all. I'm sure Wayne would like it too.

As for Macca, you'll see, you'll see.

Tom Podmore.

Podmore - remember there is nothing personal at all in what I say.






I would not rate Wayne Elcock as having the ability of Richard Williams.

IMO - Elcock has been exposed chin wise..

Be interesting to see how Mcdermott comes along though.

Williams still beats them!

You could say the same thing about Williams having been exposed... he looks good but lacks that extra gear and durability to take him past the domestic level... I dont care where a fighter comes from, Williams vs Elcock is a very close fight however you look at it and I'd favour Elcock slightly...

Williams lacks durability???


He tooks big shots from Eastman without being hurt - his ko was as much down to exhaustion.

Elcock knocked out by Murphy in 1 and shaken by Tsarrenko.

Williams stopped in 12 BY HOWARD EASTMAN.


Elcock won't beat Williams..


Howard is after all a World Top 10 Middleweight...

viciousmaussa wrote:So, is it open season on net writers?

Must be. Bunch of useless, talentless bastards.

glittermonkey wrote:

viciousmaussa wrote:So, is it open season on net writers?

Must be. Bunch of useless, talentless bastards.

( Podmore is OK!).....

McDermott is 'The Truth' - people will find this out for themselves as he starts to chew up and spit out the domestic upper echelons.

Remember lots of people worte off Mutley as a non-punching no hoper before his fight with Jennings, based almost purely on his boxrec record and the fact that he wasnt with one of the 'big' promoters and hadnt had much TV exposure. Dont make the same mistake with McDermott - he can fight!

If you were to assess Elcock's career on his showings in the first fight with Murphy and his Dann fight, I can understand why some would be underwhelmed.

I would, however, point to his excellent fitness levels, renewed vigour (given he is finally fighting in his own town - Maloney hang your head in shame.) and the fact that he is now setting himself and banging in hard, hard right hands as being reasons that make him a divisional dangerman.

Eastman would know too much for the Brummie and tie him up in knots but domestically he has no-one else to fear, in my eyes.

Looking forward to seeing Macklin at 11st 6 in his next contest as well - all 3 lads can have a say in this wide open division (following Dann's potentially career threatening injury..)

Jut FYI regarding Dann fighting again this was in todays Evening Herald.

SCOTT: I'M READY TO FIGHT AGAIN

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BILL RICHARDS CHIEF SPORTS WRITER

11:50 - 06 January 2007

Scott 'Dynamite' Dann is set to make a roaring comeback and defend his Commonwealth title, the Herald can reveal.


Dann, aged 32, is set to make his first appearance in the ring in almost a year at Plymouth Pavilions on Friday, March 23.

Plymouth's boxing hero has been out of action since May after suffering a back injury in a car accident near his St Judes home.

He was forced to relinquish his British middleweight title after the injury left him unable to fight. But now the city sporting legend is fighting back and today, in an exclusive and candid interview with The Herald, he describes the last year as being the 'hardest of my life' and talks openly about how he hit the bottle as he sought to drown the pain and depression of injury.

Dann today roared out a warning to his rivals and also had a message to his legion of fans: 'I'm coming back'.

Dann is set to make his first appearance in the ring in almost a year but he admitted he would have to 'fight through the pain' in order to achieve his dream of becoming world champion. Plymouth's most famous sporting son told the Herald that he is also taking a 'massive gamble' when he defends his Commonwealth middleweight crown in the arena where he has enjoyed considerable success.

He admitted that he will only ever have, at the most, 80 per cent of his previous punching power which has seen him stop 17 opponents inside the distance.

Dann spoke candidly to the Herald of having to deal with his own 'personal hell' after a car accident near his St Judes home in May looked to have ended his glittering career.

The father of two also admitted that he had hit the bottle as he sought to drown the pain, the despair and the demons which plagued him when he believed his world and his life was falling apart.

Thankfully, said Dann, he caught sight of his reflection last summer and had been shocked by how out of shape he looked.

He decided then that if he could help his body recover then he could also resurrect his career.

As a result of his own discipline and self-belief, Dann now believes that he can see 'light at the end of the tunnel' where before he felt he had no future at all and that he would lose all that he had trained and fought for.

The 32-year-old also praised his family and friends who helped him through the dark times of his exile from the ring, when inactivity meant that he was not bringing in a wage to support his wife and children.

Having to relinquish his British middleweight title last summer after being unable to fight because of his back injury, he said, brought home to him just how serious a plight he was in.

But the city icon said thanks to the backing of his relatives, including his wife Sonia, his mates, people in the streets, his friend and trainer, Dave Smith, he survived and realised that he has 'to learn to live with the pain'.

Dann also insisted that level of support vindicated the decision early in his career to remain in the city he loves and to bring the world title back to Plymouth.

Dann admitted the past few months had been a chastening experience but that he could talk with feeling and empathy to others who are suffering from depression, with the message: 'Don't give up, things are not always as bleak as they appear'.

Now back in training and looking to get back down to the 11st 6lb weight limit, Dann said he could look back philosophically and also forward with optimism.

He said: "I don't know who I'll be fighting yet, but I'm just happy to be able to tell everyone that I'm coming back.

"I didn't think I'd ever say that as it's been a long, frustrating and really depressing time for me - the hardest year of my life.

"I can say that even though I got married to Sonia back in the summer - that's how depressed I had become.

"I was in absolute agony in my back and could hardly move following the accident and even had to take painkillers, which I never do.

"If you had said to me then that I'd be preparing for a title defence back at the Pavilions and in front of all my friends, I've have told you to get real and get lost.

"I sank into my own little pit of despair and started drinking too much.

"I couldn't sit down or lie down without pain, so I ate and drank just to get through the days.

"I'd always been active and prided myself on my fitness, so it was hard for me to take.

"But I caught my reflection in the glass and when I saw how I had let myself go, I thought 'That's it, I'm going to change things'.

"Thanks to the drive I've always had inside and also to my wife, kids, family and friends I was able to pull myself through.

"Some people have told me in the past that I should have moved to London when I first turned professional. They said, staying in Plymouth will hold you back.

"To an extent, that's probably true, I could have become a champion earlier. But it's at times like these that I know by staying in the city I love along with all my family and friends, I have profited, big time.

"And even though my back still hurts, I can't describe the relief that I feel knowing that I've got a future. Yes, it's a big gamble as I don't know how my back is going to hold up over 12 rounds - if I have to go the distance.

"But I'd rather go in for the big one rather than have a six or eight-round warm-up fight first.

"However, I'll probably have to prepare for that as I can't twist and torque my body to unload the big punches because of my back injury.

"But I'd rather live with that, than be as I was last year.

"I've been to specialists and they suggested for me to have an operation on my back, which I turned down flat.

"I know in my heart and in my soul that I can still become world champion - I really do.

"My plan is to defend the Commonwealth belt a couple of times then get Chris (Sanigar - Dann's manager) to push my name forward for a shot at the European title.

"But, right now I'm happy to take it each fight at a time.

"Deep down, I know if I look after myself and train properly and eat right, that I am a match for any middleweight in the world."

Thanks to his own strict training regime, his belief in supplementing his diet with vitamins, the help of local outlet 'Healthy Pulses' and dietician Sarah Heaton, Dann is optimistic that over the next 11 weeks he will get down to the weight limit.

He said: "I've always tried to eat properly. Also, I find running around 30 miles a week, that helps to burn off any excess fat.

"So, me and Dave (Smith) will be hard at it over the next few weeks - we'll both make sure of that.

"I'll make sure I am in the best possible condition when I get into the ring on March 23.

"I can't wait to feel the burst of adrenalin again and to put a smile on a couple of thousand Plymothians' faces."

Before his accident, Dann had been on a ten-fight winning streak and had won both the British and Commonwealth middleweight titles at the Pavilions. He is rated number eight in the International Boxing Federation's world middleweight rankings and has twice been voted the Herald's Sports Personality of the Year.

Good luck to Dann, it sounds like he has been to hell and back - it was a very candid, frank interview.

He has always been good value in the ring, I just hope he hasnt lost too much and can still bang like he used to!