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Hatton conference call - are boxing writers thick?
Posted: 14 Jan 2007, 08:58
by Autobarn
Nearly every question on that rambling conference call talked about welterweights. Ricky, are going going up again? Ricky, was the 7 lbs the big difference vs Collazo.
For fvck's sake, Mayweather has a fight at 154, Cotto has a megafight with Margarito 2 fights away. Who is available at welterweight right now??
Also, a lot of ppl must have bad eyesight, because I don't think the 147 lbs was the only difference when he fought Collazo. Ricky HAD ALL THE SAME PROBLEMS versus Magee - also a slick leftie. The problems of hitting a slick leftie clean, the problem of eating too many right hooks, etc etc.
Also, there weren't too many questions of the subject of Juan Urango; or the good fighters at 140.
Posted: 14 Jan 2007, 10:08
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
Happy 4000 Posts Maussa. Well Mayweather/Cotto are the glamour fights. Castillos next but it isn't as glamouress which ever way you want to spin it. Theres also Corrales at 140 in terms of names. This is beating up on old possibly shot men who've already had the stuffing beat out of them (by each other).
Lets be honest Ricky won't fight Witter, Harris, Mbaiye and those 3 and Hatton make up the top4 at 140. So no 140 will not bring the top fights.
At least at 147 the money should be such that he may step in the ring with another top fighter - Mayweather/Cotto
Posted: 14 Jan 2007, 10:28
by Autobarn
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Happy 4000 Posts Maussa. Well Mayweather/Cotto are the glamour fights. Castillos next but it isn't as glamouress which ever way you want to spin it. Theres also Corrales at 140 in terms of names. This is beating up on old possibly shot men who've already had the stuffing beat out of them (by each other).
Lets be honest Ricky won't fight Witter, Harris, Mbaiye and those 3 and Hatton make up the top4 at 140. So no 140 will not bring the top fights.
At least at 147 the money should be such that he may step in the ring with another top fighter - Mayweather/Cotto
Blimey, I thought I was nearer to 2000.
Ricky did remind the reporters that "there are a lot of good fighters at light welter."
I know he didn't mean my favourites Witter, Mbaye or Kotelnik.
Castillo is close to being a Hall of Famer. I can't believe how he got down to 135 to grind out wins over Lazcano, Casa and Julio Diaz. Fingers crossed he looks great at 140 - he did say he's not just training for weight these days, he's actually working on a gameplan, LOL.
Torres has the WBO title, how can anyone resist Hatton-Torres?
Harris hits like a mule.
Never seen this Arnaoutis bloke, but he was meant to be a bit unlucky losing to Torres and drew with Urango.
Ricky has a dangerous, exciting lineup and there are potentially thrilling fights out there.
Re: Hatton conference call - are boxing writers thick?
Posted: 14 Jan 2007, 10:36
by hitman_hatton1
viciousmaussa wrote:Nearly every question on that rambling conference call talked about welterweights. Ricky, are going going up again? Ricky, was the 7 lbs the big difference vs Collazo.
For fvck's sake, Mayweather has a fight at 154, Cotto has a megafight with Margarito 2 fights away. Who is available at welterweight right now??
Also, a lot of ppl must have bad eyesight, because I don't think the 147 lbs was the only difference when he fought Collazo. Ricky HAD ALL THE SAME PROBLEMS versus Magee - also a slick leftie. The problems of hitting a slick leftie clean, the problem of eating too many right hooks, etc etc.
Also, there weren't too many questions of the subject of Juan Urango; or the good fighters at 140.
yeah i agree.
the style of collazo caused the problems.
plus the fact he was good at keeping it tight.
he was quite a big fornicator to, that didn't help.
still thought hatton won that fight though.

Posted: 14 Jan 2007, 11:02
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
viciousmaussa wrote:Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Happy 4000 Posts Maussa. Well Mayweather/Cotto are the glamour fights. Castillos next but it isn't as glamouress which ever way you want to spin it. Theres also Corrales at 140 in terms of names. This is beating up on old possibly shot men who've already had the stuffing beat out of them (by each other).
Lets be honest Ricky won't fight Witter, Harris, Mbaiye and those 3 and Hatton make up the top4 at 140. So no 140 will not bring the top fights.
At least at 147 the money should be such that he may step in the ring with another top fighter - Mayweather/Cotto
Blimey, I thought I was nearer to 2000.
Ricky did remind the reporters that "there are a lot of good fighters at light welter."
I know he didn't mean my favourites Witter, Mbaye or Kotelnik.
Castillo is close to being a Hall of Famer. I can't believe how he got down to 135 to grind out wins over Lazcano, Casa and Julio Diaz. Fingers crossed he looks great at 140 - he did say he's not just training for weight these days, he's actually working on a gameplan, LOL.
Torres has the WBO title, how can anyone resist Hatton-Torres?
Harris hits like a mule.
Never seen this Arnaoutis bloke, but he was meant to be a bit unlucky losing to Torres and drew with Urango.
Ricky has a dangerous, exciting lineup and there are potentially thrilling fights out there.
Castillo at 140 should be interesting, lets not forget he hasnt fought in a year, thats got to slow him down. He'll still have some problems making 140 - if he was actually trying to make weight against Corrales that is. Castillos also been in allot of wars and you have to question when it will catch up with him.
Of course if it is close Hatton-Castillo may have the makings of a trilogy.
Posted: 14 Jan 2007, 11:10
by Autobarn
Absolutely - if Hatton has a damn good fight with anyone at 140 there will be rematches because superficially (but not really) there aren't many worthy foes. There will be a need to create something big.
Personally, I think Hatton has nearly as strong a line up as Tszyu did (Hurtado, Gonzalez, Judah, Sharmbah, Bergman).
Posted: 14 Jan 2007, 11:19
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
viciousmaussa wrote:Absolutely - if Hatton has a damn good fight with anyone at 140 there will be rematches because superficially (but not really) there aren't many owthy foes. There will be a need to create something big.
Personally, I think Hatton has nearly as strong a line up as Tszyu did (Hurtado, Gonzalez, Judah, Sharmbah, Bergman).
If Hatton beat Castillo, Judah, Witter, Mbaiye, Kotelnik, Corrales over the space of 2-3years he'd have to be above Tyszu in terms of achievements. 4 of those fights are very unlikely though and not losing against them would be tough.
What were forgetting of course is the fighters at 130-135. Hatton could fight Pacman who weighed 144-146 in his last fight. Thats big enough to fight at 140 within 2 years and he'd handle himself as hes a beast, he actually has slightly bigger dimensions than Hatton (reach/height), has something like 3% bodyfat, lightening fast speed, workrate and will still have some power.
Hatton-Pacman would be a great fight. Then theres the smaller stars Cassamoya, Guzman (weighed 140+++ on fight night), Diaz, Freitas and even our own Scot Harrison (weighs 146 at 126). Many of those probably won't go above 135 but never say never in boxing.
Then you have up and comers like Amir Khan
Hopefully Junior Witter can still be around to make fights with some of these and really make a name for himself worldwide
Posted: 14 Jan 2007, 12:41
by Neri
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:viciousmaussa wrote:Absolutely - if Hatton has a damn good fight with anyone at 140 there will be rematches because superficially (but not really) there aren't many owthy foes. There will be a need to create something big.
Personally, I think Hatton has nearly as strong a line up as Tszyu did (Hurtado, Gonzalez, Judah, Sharmbah, Bergman).
If Hatton beat Castillo, Judah, Witter, Mbaiye, Kotelnik, Corrales over the space of 2-3years he'd have to be above Tyszu in terms of achievements. 4 of those fights are very unlikely though and not losing against them would be tough.
Got to agree, there are many slip ups amongst those opponents for Hatton.
Re: Hatton conference call - are boxing writers thick?
Posted: 14 Jan 2007, 12:57
by Autobarn
Terence wrote:viciousmaussa wrote:Nearly every question on that rambling conference call talked about welterweights. Ricky, are going going up again? Ricky, was the 7 lbs the big difference vs Collazo.
For fvck's sake, Mayweather has a fight at 154, Cotto has a megafight with Margarito 2 fights away. Who is available at welterweight right now??
Also, a lot of ppl must have bad eyesight, because I don't think the 147 lbs was the only difference when he fought Collazo. Ricky HAD ALL THE SAME PROBLEMS versus Magee - also a slick leftie. The problems of hitting a slick leftie clean, the problem of eating too many right hooks, etc etc.
Also, there weren't too many questions of the subject of Juan Urango; or the good fighters at 140.
I did my first, and hopefull last, press conference last year for the Collazo fight and did not feel the need to write it up. Every question was a legal related one, often re-phrased from guy to the next. Fair enough but why not research that shite privately and ask about the fight itself?
I would think twice about attending another one, I prefer going to the gym and having a good fooking moan with the boxers and trainers!
Did you ever read the Eastman conference transcript, pre-Hopkins? Every writer goes "Hi Howard, how are you?", "Hi Howard. how's things?" at least 20 times over. Last thing I remember Eastman saying was "Fine thanks...how are you?"
They are inane drivel, conf calls.
Re: Hatton conference call - are boxing writers thick?
Posted: 14 Jan 2007, 13:37
by The Blade
viciousmaussa wrote:Terence wrote:viciousmaussa wrote:Nearly every question on that rambling conference call talked about welterweights. Ricky, are going going up again? Ricky, was the 7 lbs the big difference vs Collazo.
For fvck's sake, Mayweather has a fight at 154, Cotto has a megafight with Margarito 2 fights away. Who is available at welterweight right now??
Also, a lot of ppl must have bad eyesight, because I don't think the 147 lbs was the only difference when he fought Collazo. Ricky HAD ALL THE SAME PROBLEMS versus Magee - also a slick leftie. The problems of hitting a slick leftie clean, the problem of eating too many right hooks, etc etc.
Also, there weren't too many questions of the subject of Juan Urango; or the good fighters at 140.
I did my first, and hopefull last, press conference last year for the Collazo fight and did not feel the need to write it up. Every question was a legal related one, often re-phrased from guy to the next. Fair enough but why not research that shite privately and ask about the fight itself?
I would think twice about attending another one, I prefer going to the gym and having a good fooking moan with the boxers and trainers!
Did you ever read the Eastman conference transcript, pre-Hopkins? Every writer goes "Hi Howard, how are you?", "Hi Howard. how's things?" at least 20 times over. Last thing I remember Eastman saying was "Fine thanks...how are you?"
May be a tough concept, but I believe it is called being polite
They are inane drivel, conf calls.
Re: Hatton conference call - are boxing writers thick?
Posted: 14 Jan 2007, 14:06
by The Blade
The Blade wrote:viciousmaussa wrote:Terence wrote:
I did my first, and hopefull last, press conference last year for the Collazo fight and did not feel the need to write it up. Every question was a legal related one, often re-phrased from guy to the next. Fair enough but why not research that shite privately and ask about the fight itself?
I would think twice about attending another one, I prefer going to the gym and having a good fooking moan with the boxers and trainers!
Did you ever read the Eastman conference transcript, pre-Hopkins? Every writer goes "Hi Howard, how are you?", "Hi Howard. how's things?" at least 20 times over. Last thing I remember Eastman saying was "Fine thanks...how are you?"
May be a tough concept, but I believe it is called being polite