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Shame he ain't fighting Calzaghe or this could be used as vengence.

What a twat!

Didn't he get stripped of his WBA title or something along those lines for comments about 9/11??

we had the last laugh and always will...who the fcuk gets sparked by sven ottke !!

Max Molyneux wrote:http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/ ... 61,00.html

Shame he ain't fighting Calzaghe or this could be used as vengence.

Shame Calzaghe doesn't fight him.

Claims he's speaking for a generation when The British wasn't even Involved In the aboriginal kids being taken to white families.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Generation

pundit wrote:

Max Molyneux wrote:http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/ ... 61,00.html

Shame he ain't fighting Calzaghe or this could be used as vengence.

Shame Calzaghe doesn't fight him.

Even Aussie fans are saying Calzaghe would beat him.

Froch Vs Mundine would be good, Froch with his mouth could hype up the flag burning.

Max Molyneux wrote:

pundit wrote:

Max Molyneux wrote:http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/ ... 61,00.html

Shame he ain't fighting Calzaghe or this could be used as vengence.

Shame Calzaghe doesn't fight him.

Even Aussie fans are saying Calzaghe would beat him.

Woulda coulda shoulda.

Mundine is widely recognized (including by the boxrec forum member ranking) as the #3 a super-middleweight after Kessler and Calzaghe; and as Calzaghe doesn't seem to fancy his chances against the Dane, Mundine would be the logical next opponent in line.

dopey wrote:What a twat!

Didn't he get stripped of his WBA title or something along those lines for comments about 9/11??

No.

pundit wrote:

Max Molyneux wrote:

pundit wrote: Shame Calzaghe doesn't fight him.

Even Aussie fans are saying Calzaghe would beat him.

Woulda coulda shoulda.

Mundine is widely recognized (including by the boxrec forum member ranking) as the #3 a super-middleweight after Kessler and Calzaghe; and as Calzaghe doesn't seem to fancy his chances against the Dane, Mundine would be the logical next opponent in line.

Outside of Boxrec who recognises Mundine as No 3.

A broken record as usual with this woulda shoulda coulda, no way will Joe to Australia and Mundine won't leave Australia.

Mundine is a prick but in fairness he did leave Australia to fight Ottke. I'm sure if the money was right he would leave OZ to fight Calzaghe, he doesn't strike me as a bottle job despite his obvious shortcomings.

Max Molyneux wrote:

pundit wrote:

Max Molyneux wrote: Even Aussie fans are saying Calzaghe would beat him.

Woulda coulda shoulda.

Mundine is widely recognized (including by the boxrec forum member ranking) as the #3 a super-middleweight after Kessler and Calzaghe; and as Calzaghe doesn't seem to fancy his chances against the Dane, Mundine would be the logical next opponent in line.

Outside of Boxrec who recognises Mundine as No 3.

Just checked the Ring and secdonsout and both do.

A broken record as usual with this woulda shoulda coulda, no way will Joe to Australia and Mundine won't leave Australia.

The broken record is not me but you. "Calzaghe would beat X [qualifying statement such as "with one hand]" is every second phrase of you. No wonder, as Calzaghe never fights anyone.

hahahahahahaha

Funny bloke Mundine and has some good skills. Fine boxer and I hope he continues to get underrated because he's going to give some ppl a nasty shock when they move up from middle.

pundit wrote:

Max Molyneux wrote:

pundit wrote: Woulda coulda shoulda.

Mundine is widely recognized (including by the boxrec forum member ranking) as the #3 a super-middleweight after Kessler and Calzaghe; and as Calzaghe doesn't seem to fancy his chances against the Dane, Mundine would be the logical next opponent in line.

Outside of Boxrec who recognises Mundine as No 3.

Just checked the Ring and secdonsout and both do.

A broken record as usual with this woulda shoulda coulda, no way will Joe to Australia and Mundine won't leave Australia.

The broken record is not me but you. "Calzaghe would beat X [qualifying statement such as "with one hand]" is every second phrase of you. No wonder, as Calzaghe never fights anyone.

I'm not the one who says shoulda coulda woulda.

Last I said about Calzaghe beating someone was more Calzaghe would lay the smack down on Hopkins, not Calzaghe would beat.

Mundine can't get his facts right on the stolen generation so his video Is flawed.

He sounds like a poor mans Zack De La Roca from the former rage against the machine when It comes to politics, but at least they did research.

I found some Aussie made T-shirt too of Mundine.

I always wanted an Ottke T shirt. Where can I get one from Max?

Max Molyneux wrote: I'm not the one who says shoulda coulda woulda.

Last I said about Calzaghe beating someone was more Calzaghe would lay the smack down on Hopkins, not Calzaghe would beat.

Yeah

Max Molyneux wrote:Mundine can't get his facts right on the stolen generation so his video Is flawed.

He sounds like a poor mans Zack De La Roca from the former rage against the machine when It comes to politics, but at least they did research.

I found some Aussie made T-shirt too of Mundine.

Ohhh that one is vicious!

Max Molyneux wrote:http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/ ... 61,00.html

Shame he ain't fighting Calzaghe or this could be used as vengence.

I'll knock the prick out meself

Max Molyneux wrote:Mundine can't get his facts right on the stolen generation so his video Is flawed.

He sounds like a poor mans Zack De La Roca from the former rage against the machine when It comes to politics, but at least they did research.

I found some Aussie made T-shirt too of Mundine.

Honestly i dislike Mundine but how good would Calzaghe or any other 168 pounder have done against Ottke in there 11th fight.

One thing I do know is Calzaghe wouldn't have been knocked out cold. Agree that Ottke was a nightmare for anyone though, let alone 11 fights into your pro career.

The thing you have to respect about Mundine is that he quickly took on quality boxers after switching over from another sport. How long have been waiting for Fatt Skelton to move into genuine world class (and in a much weaker division too). Look at Curtis Woodhouse's 1st pro start, and he wants to be taken seriously

That's the thing. Calzaghe wouldn't even fight Ottke. When Calzaghe is PROPERLY ASSESSED by historians without star spangled flags stuffed up their rectums, not fighting Ottke could keep him out of the Hall of Fame.

I mean how do you let another fighter have 20 defenses, if you're the best in the division? Not saying JC wasn't better - we don't know because they didn't fight - but it just looks very very bad.

Calzaghe will get more credit for beating Manfredo in America. If he fights Hopkins, he faces a man who has adapted his style to Ottke-like! No substitute for the real thing, Joey.

Ben Keilty wrote:
Honestly i dislike Mundine but how good would Calzaghe or any other 168 pounder have done against Ottke in there 11th fight.

Well, think Calzaghe would have done all right as it happens...but neither he, nor any legitimate top 30 guy would've been knocked cold for 10 minutes by Sven...

viciousmaussa wrote:That's the thing. Calzaghe wouldn't even fight Ottke.

But that also equally applies to Ottke. Both Calzaghe and Ottke were home-birds, who were unprepared to give up home advantage in pursuit of a big fight.

Correct me if im wrong but Ottke never left Germany and chased the big fights in the States or elsewhere, did he? I dont think its accurate to lay the blame squarley with Joe Calzaghe for a fight with Ottke not coming off.

I found that T-shirt pic on ESB so some Aussie who posted might of got the T-shirt made himself.

Calzaghe says he was never offered a fight with Ottke I think. In his 11th fight If he'd have fought Ottke, he would of been disqualified for probably unleashing a pimp slap of doom on Ottke.

Oh yeah, now they've made this.

liamlion wrote:

viciousmaussa wrote:That's the thing. Calzaghe wouldn't even fight Ottke.

But that also equally applies to Ottke. Both Calzaghe and Ottke were home-birds, who were unprepared to give up home advantage in pursuit of a big fight.

Correct me if im wrong but Ottke never left Germany and chased the big fights in the States or elsewhere, did he? I dont think its accurate to lay the blame squarley with Joe Calzaghe for a fight with Ottke not coming off.

It was six of one, half a dozen of another, both fighters and their respective promoters were keen to maintain the status quo, they didn't see much value in a unification, and were happy to continue paddling along in their wee gravy boat.