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Posted: 01 Feb 2007, 20:53
by stujones
Pleased for Secondsout, nice to see them making a proper go of it while exclusive rights to big shows. However, not pleased for me - I definately need to tape the big US fights in case I doze off - so I guess it will be trader time.

Any chance Secondsout can secure a Subscription based TV channel on like the Sky network.

Posted: 01 Feb 2007, 21:00
by Goz
If you can address the quality issues of watching sporting events via Internet streaming technologies then well done for being pioneers and good luck to you.

I've been down this route with football though, even paid for streaming sites aren't a patch on the TV, if you maximise the stream to full screen it's crap, the best resolution is to watch on a window the size of about an 8th of your total desktop which also isn't really ideal.

Posted: 01 Feb 2007, 23:37
by The Law
Check your private messages inbox Ant :TU:

Good luck to secondsout, it's a move in the right direction.

Posted: 02 Feb 2007, 03:12
by rhino222
good luck with it ant.

will we see spud leading klitschko to the ring whilst chewing gum ? :wink:

Posted: 02 Feb 2007, 04:53
by TerribleTerry
A bold move and good luck with it but for me the technology isnt yet ready for this platform..

Still, if positive feedback comes from the first showing I will be more interested. :TU:

Posted: 02 Feb 2007, 06:24
by MightyWarrior
Anything that gives us an alternative to the sometimes useless SKY boxing is good news - hope it works and you pick up fights like Cotto/Margarito and the Valeros & Guzmans.

These Wlad fights will still be shown on German TV though, right?

Posted: 02 Feb 2007, 06:32
by jamesmcdonnell
I think I'll be signing up (once I get my sodding phone line sorted) this is great news for boxing fans, it's early days yet, but this is a great move along the road to being able to pick and choose your content, and not having to shell out a fortune to Sky to get whatever content they choose to pick up.

Posted: 02 Feb 2007, 06:38
by Old bones Ian
any chance of a schedule of the forth coming fight?

Posted: 02 Feb 2007, 06:56
by overhand_right
So now the IBF World heavyweight champion cant even get a fight on UK TV? This sh#t is killing boxing.

A few hardcores watching a fight nobody else knoiws about on a PC screen. What a joke.

Posted: 02 Feb 2007, 07:09
by Achybreaky
overhand_right wrote:So now the IBF World heavyweight champion cant even get a fight on UK TV? This sh#t is killing boxing.

A few hardcores watching a fight nobody else knoiws about on a PC screen. What a joke.
Very true this is beyond a joke now and is it any wonder people are turning off boxing in their droves when you have to pay to see any significant fights.

Having to pay to see duddy fight at this stage of his career is an absolute disgrace no matter what way you dress it up.

Posted: 02 Feb 2007, 07:52
by overhand_right
A good move for boxing would be to screen it live on terrestrial television, available to millions, not screen it on a website.

What about the millions of potential boxing fans likes my old man and his mates, guys who love boxing but are in their 50s and dont even own a computer, let alone know how to operate one.

Posted: 02 Feb 2007, 08:11
by Autobarn
Maybe it'll work out well in the future. But right now it's like the difference between seeing a film in the cinema OR having a top quality DVD, as opposed to seeing a ropey pirate copy that some dodgy twat of fa market stall has tried to pass off. Yes, the availability is there but it all seems to substandard.

Posted: 02 Feb 2007, 08:45
by Max Molyneux
How much Is Seconds out paying Klitschko to give them a hit and hug fest?

Posted: 02 Feb 2007, 08:53
by TerribleTerry
MightyWarrior wrote:Anything that gives us an alternative to the sometimes useless SKY boxing is good news - hope it works and you pick up fights like Cotto/Margarito and the Valeros & Guzmans.

These Wlad fights will still be shown on German TV though, right?
Dont worry MW, your massive p0rno dish will come to the rescue I am sure! :D :D

Cant imagine they bought the German rights too - far too expensive..

Posted: 02 Feb 2007, 08:55
by jamesmcdonnell
overhand_right wrote:A good move for boxing would be to screen it live on terrestrial television, available to millions, not screen it on a website.

What about the millions of potential boxing fans likes my old man and his mates, guys who love boxing but are in their 50s and dont even own a computer, let alone know how to operate one.
There simply are not enough available TV slots to satisfy boxing fans. How on earth are you going the schedule international boxing with the paltry number of slots available on prime time terrestrial TV? There's what, maybe 30 slots available on ITV1 throughout the year? How are you going to show all the international action, as well as fights featuring out best domestic fighters in that small allocation, it just cannot be done.

Pay to play is the way forward, you pay for content which matches more directly what you want to see, it's good for the promoters because it is targetting an audience directly, rather than something which comes as part of a sports package.

It will I think result eventually in a drop in the price of PPV fights as well. You're not paying for the bloated structure of something like Sky, and all the hands that are taking their cut before it gets to your screen.

One question ANT? What has happened to that organisation 'on demand' didn't they have a monopoly on the distribution of the content to the various providers previously, I seem to recall this is what was preventing the .TV internet entities broadcasting content directly?

Posted: 02 Feb 2007, 09:18
by Max Molyneux
Couldn't sky try to compete with seconds out too and just buy the rights from the Klitschko's K2 promotions?

Posted: 02 Feb 2007, 09:28
by MightyWarrior
TerribleTerry wrote:
Dont worry MW, your massive p0rno dish will come to the rescue I am sure! :D :D
I'm sure that's what the neighbours think! :D :TU:

Re: SecondsOut - the ONLY place to see Klitschko fights

Posted: 02 Feb 2007, 09:48
by KO Artist
Ant Evans wrote:Hi guys,

Just want to clear something up. SecondsOut is the ONLY place to see Klitschko's next 3 bouts. If Sky (or whoever) want to screen it (on delay etc) they will have to pay a fee to SecondsOut and, quite honestly, SecondsOut won't be selling the rights on having only just got them.

I know a few of you are worried about quality on fights on the next, but you can sign up right now and watch Wlad's last fight (plus full undercard) and loads of other top fights from the last few months on SecondsOut. You won't be disappointed by the quality, I promise.

Also, Irish fans, SecondsOut is the ONLY place to see John Duddy's next fight. It is on Irish TV on a delay (and perhaps even just highlights, but don't quote me on that) but SecondsOut has it LIVE!
Why not screen Klitchkos last fight for free, as a taster. If the technology is as good as you and Rob Waterman are saying, after a sample the public will flock to sign up

Posted: 02 Feb 2007, 10:30
by jamesmcdonnell
I guess the problem with that is that you cannot prove that a LIVE feed would look like that, sending a pre recorded file isn't the same.

If a trial was offered that allowed you to see one fight for free to trial the technology and then the password expires after that session. How about that then? :box:

Posted: 02 Feb 2007, 11:23
by Shirow
You'd think it wouldn't be too expensive to get some cable channel time if not a dedicated channel to show boxing.

How much are those informercials paying and those pointless phone-in tacky quiz shows?

Posted: 02 Feb 2007, 11:53
by stujones
Shirow wrote:You'd think it wouldn't be too expensive to get some cable channel time if not a dedicated channel to show boxing.

How much are those informercials paying and those pointless phone-in tacky quiz shows?
Exactly. Lets have Seconds out.tv, tv channel.

Anyone remember that channel dedicated to that crap singer (who never made it) - it was on the music section of the sky guide. It was her boyfriend who bought it all, Obviously well off but I don't think he was a millionaire.

Posted: 02 Feb 2007, 11:58
by lvlarc
So how much are secondsout going to charge for this service?

Re: SecondsOut - the ONLY place to see Klitschko fights

Posted: 02 Feb 2007, 12:53
by chevychase
[quote="Ant Evans"]Hi guys,

Just want to clear something up. SecondsOut is the ONLY place to see Klitschko's next 3 bouts. If Sky (or whoever) want to screen it (on delay etc) they will have to pay a fee to SecondsOut and, quite honestly, SecondsOut won't be selling the rights on having only just got them.

I know a few of you are worried about quality on fights on the next, but you can sign up right now and watch Wlad's last fight (plus full undercard) and loads of other top fights from the last few months on SecondsOut. You won't be disappointed by the quality, I promise.

Also, Irish fans, SecondsOut is the ONLY place to see John Duddy's next fight. It is on Irish TV on a delay (and perhaps even just highlights, but don't quote me on that) but SecondsOut has it LIVE![/quote

No it's not the ONLY place to see klitschko fights.


Well i am in the uk and will be watching it free on my plasma. :D

Posted: 04 Feb 2007, 05:42
by KO Artist
Shirow wrote:You'd think it wouldn't be too expensive to get some cable channel time if not a dedicated channel to show boxing.

How much are those informercials paying and those pointless phone-in tacky quiz shows?
Good point Jon, and one that occurred to me ages ago. It might be worth a few of us getting together and buying a TV station, and see what we could do.

Anyone interested?

Re: SecondsOut - the ONLY place to see Klitschko fights

Posted: 04 Feb 2007, 08:59
by Max Molyneux
chevychase wrote:
Ant Evans wrote:Hi guys,

Just want to clear something up. SecondsOut is the ONLY place to see Klitschko's next 3 bouts. If Sky (or whoever) want to screen it (on delay etc) they will have to pay a fee to SecondsOut and, quite honestly, SecondsOut won't be selling the rights on having only just got them.

I know a few of you are worried about quality on fights on the next, but you can sign up right now and watch Wlad's last fight (plus full undercard) and loads of other top fights from the last few months on SecondsOut. You won't be disappointed by the quality, I promise.

Also, Irish fans, SecondsOut is the ONLY place to see John Duddy's next fight. It is on Irish TV on a delay (and perhaps even just highlights, but don't quote me on that) but SecondsOut has it LIVE![/quote

No it's not the ONLY place to see klitschko fights.


Well i am in the uk and will be watching it free on my plasma. :D
Make sure you don't shake the plasma In rage If Klischko bores you with a hug fest.

He hugged Byrd In the 2nd one too! :o