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Johanneson
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Burns
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Should be a cracker... it's in Leeds town Hall, so Carl will have the crowd on his side, looks gangly Burns I recall Alex Arthur did shoot many body shots against him, Johanneson certainly will. If Burns can show some savvy, keep him off early and test his stamina late on I think the scot can upset the odds and win here, he's outsider though, should be a great match.

Any news on the undercard anyone? I might go to this if there's a couple of decent bouts on the night.

Burns can go as far as winning a Euro title I reckon.

Dunno about Johannesson though.

Burns has a shot if he gets past 6 rounds i would say as Johanneson's stamina is quaestionable. However i can see Carl landing some meaty body shots and hooks to have Burns in bother at least at some point. Is a stoppage out of the question? Johanneson does hit considerably harder than the Scotsman.

At the magnificent Leeds Town Hall this Friday, local man Carl "Ingemar" Johanneson makes a magnificent-looking second defence of his British super-featherweight title against Braveheart Ricky Burns, the mandatory.
Rick Manners promotes the biggest 'trade' fight for years.
Johanneson, a talented amateur for the Great Burmantofts club in Leeds, made his way to New Jersey, of all places, following a four-year stint in the Army and won 15 of 16 pro fights in mean American rings (the loss, a split decision to useful Georgian Koba Gogoladze in an eight-rounder in Detroit in 2003), before making his way back and copping the meaningless WBF belt from Carl Greaves at Wembley in early 2004 (three rounds). After a couple of defences, Carl walked on to a crunching right hand from Russian Leva Kirakosyan at Crystal Palace in December 2004 and was floored and stopped in the first. But Kirakosyan had essentially finished the career of Michael Gomez a couple of months earlier.
Johanneson left long-time mentor John Durkin afterwards to be trained by Trevor Schofield. He's reeled off nine wins since Kirakosyan - all of them by stoppage - including a second-round annihilation of Andrew Ferrans in a British title eliminator at Leeds Town Hall last February, his second stoppage win over the tall, gangling Scot (like Burns). He is typically American in style: balanced, aggressive, comfortable at close quarters... He jabs sharply, throws a mean left hook and doesn't neglect the body. He walked through Wembley-based Irishman Billy Corcoran in four rounds to win the British title at York Hall last July (vacant) and proved too strong and savvy for Bradford's unbeaten but untested Femi Fehintola in his first defence in Barnsley in November (six rounds).
He's stopped his last 14 victims.
Burns doesn't hit so hard at 15-1 (3) but still carries a whack and his only defeat came to Edinburgh's world class Alex Arthur in a triple title challenge in Edinburgh last February. The hard-hitting champion (like Johanneson) was only able to outpoint his fellow Scot. He never had him in trouble.
"Ricky's a brilliant boxer," said ever-generous Arthur afterwards.
Still only 23, Burns took up boxing at the age of 10 and won 100 of 106 amateur bouts, including two over hard-hitting British and Commonwealth welterweight champion Kevin Anderson. Trained by craggy Rab Bannan at the Barn Boxing club in Coatbridge near Glasgow, he turned pro in October 2001 in Glasgow's historic Kelvin Hall with a four-round decision over Welshman Woody Greenaway.
"That boy's got something," said ringsider Marvelous Marvin Hagler.
Ricky won his first 13 fights, including a shock eight-round decision over previously unbeaten Luton lightweight Graham Earl at Wembley in February 2005 (at five days' notice). He proved it was no fluke against the vastly more experienced Arthur. "I don't count it as a loss," said the challenger. "It was great experience for me. I thought it was pretty even after the first six rounds and it was just the last couple of rounds where Alex got to me with the body shots and I was struggling a bit.
"I'd never gone beyond eight rounds before and if I'd had that bit more experience, who knows?"
Burns returned to winning ways flattening Frenchman Adolphe Avadja in five rounds last April at York Hall, a job he finished with a smashing right uppercut, and shrugged off a cut eye to outscore gutsy Bulgarian Wladimir Borov over eight rounds last time out in November in Glasgow, hurting him late on. Still on the way up, Burns has something about him - the aura of a winner. Primarily he's a counterpuncher, making the the most of his height and reach behind a long jab, quick feet and quick counters. At 5ft 10ins, he has five inches in height on Johanneson and the edge in durability over a champion whose chin has let him down in the past, of course. The Leeds man fell heavily and spectacularly in the fifth round of his fight with Gogoladze from two southpaw lefts, fighting back bravely to last the distance.
This is one of those fights where you fancy Burns to win it one minute, then Johanneson the next. But all things, considered the strong, more rounded, more seasoned 28-year-old Johanneson, on home turf, has to be fancied to outscore the precocious Scot.

fatman wrote:Any news on the undercard anyone? I might go to this if there's a couple of decent bouts on the night.

fewkes v's craig watson
Mark Thomson v's 'An Ingle fighter'
Stu Mcfaden v's ?

and i think its sold out

Looking forward to this one. Good fight for a proper title and all that. As for the winner, I've been backing Johanneson to win this one all along. I compared it to a domestic Cotto-Malignaggi a while ago, where the light-hitting guy is right in a close fight, but the stronger man always has the look of the winner. I think Johanneson's heavier shots should be enough to carry him to a points win, although, as I say, it may well be close on the cards.

bennie wrote:At the magnificent Leeds Town Hall this Friday, local man Carl "Ingemar" Johanneson makes a magnificent-looking second defence of his British super-featherweight title against Braveheart Ricky Burns, the mandatory.
Rick Manners promotes the biggest 'trade' fight for years.
Johanneson, a talented amateur for the Great Burmantofts club in Leeds, made his way to New Jersey, of all places, following a four-year stint in the Army and won 15 of 16 pro fights in mean American rings (the loss, a split decision to useful Georgian Koba Gogoladze in an eight-rounder in Detroit in 2003), before making his way back and copping the meaningless WBF belt from Carl Greaves at Wembley in early 2004 (three rounds). After a couple of defences, Carl walked on to a crunching right hand from Russian Leva Kirakosyan at Crystal Palace in December 2004 and was floored and stopped in the first. But Kirakosyan had essentially finished the career of Michael Gomez a couple of months earlier.
Johanneson left long-time mentor John Durkin afterwards to be trained by Trevor Schofield. He's reeled off nine wins since Kirakosyan - all of them by stoppage - including a second-round annihilation of Andrew Ferrans in a British title eliminator at Leeds Town Hall last February, his second stoppage win over the tall, gangling Scot (like Burns). He is typically American in style: balanced, aggressive, comfortable at close quarters... He jabs sharply, throws a mean left hook and doesn't neglect the body. He walked through Wembley-based Irishman Billy Corcoran in four rounds to win the British title at York Hall last July (vacant) and proved too strong and savvy for Bradford's unbeaten but untested Femi Fehintola in his first defence in Barnsley in November (six rounds).
He's stopped his last 14 victims.
Burns doesn't hit so hard at 15-1 (3) but still carries a whack and his only defeat came to Edinburgh's world class Alex Arthur in a triple title challenge in Edinburgh last February. The hard-hitting champion (like Johanneson) was only able to outpoint his fellow Scot. He never had him in trouble.
"Ricky's a brilliant boxer," said ever-generous Arthur afterwards.
Still only 23, Burns took up boxing at the age of 10 and won 100 of 106 amateur bouts, including two over hard-hitting British and Commonwealth welterweight champion Kevin Anderson. Trained by craggy Rab Bannan at the Barn Boxing club in Coatbridge near Glasgow, he turned pro in October 2001 in Glasgow's historic Kelvin Hall with a four-round decision over Welshman Woody Greenaway.
"That boy's got something," said ringsider Marvelous Marvin Hagler.
Ricky won his first 13 fights, including a shock eight-round decision over previously unbeaten Luton lightweight Graham Earl at Wembley in February 2005 (at five days' notice). He proved it was no fluke against the vastly more experienced Arthur. "I don't count it as a loss," said the challenger. "It was great experience for me. I thought it was pretty even after the first six rounds and it was just the last couple of rounds where Alex got to me with the body shots and I was struggling a bit.
"I'd never gone beyond eight rounds before and if I'd had that bit more experience, who knows?"
Burns returned to winning ways flattening Frenchman Adolphe Avadja in five rounds last April at York Hall, a job he finished with a smashing right uppercut, and shrugged off a cut eye to outscore gutsy Bulgarian Wladimir Borov over eight rounds last time out in November in Glasgow, hurting him late on. Still on the way up, Burns has something about him - the aura of a winner. Primarily he's a counterpuncher, making the the most of his height and reach behind a long jab, quick feet and quick counters. At 5ft 10ins, he has five inches in height on Johanneson and the edge in durability over a champion whose chin has let him down in the past, of course. The Leeds man fell heavily and spectacularly in the fifth round of his fight with Gogoladze from two southpaw lefts, fighting back bravely to last the distance.
This is one of those fights where you fancy Burns to win it one minute, then Johanneson the next. But all things, considered the strong, more rounded, more seasoned 28-year-old Johanneson, on home turf, has to be fancied to outscore the precocious Scot.

well argued, but I disagree. Fancy a bet?

sweetscience wrote:

fatman wrote:Any news on the undercard anyone? I might go to this if there's a couple of decent bouts on the night.

fewkes v's craig watson
Mark Thomson v's 'An Ingle fighter'
Stu Mcfaden v's ?

and i think its sold out

Little Ross Burkinshaw is also on. Seems a decent prospect.

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:

sweetscience wrote:

fatman wrote:Any news on the undercard anyone? I might go to this if there's a couple of decent bouts on the night.

fewkes v's craig watson
Mark Thomson v's 'An Ingle fighter'
Stu Mcfaden v's ?

and i think its sold out

Little Ross Burkinshaw is also on. Seems a decent prospect.

What do you think of fewkes v's craig watson, Ian?

Seems a big risk by Maloney to me - does he know something we dont or is he feeding his kid to the wolves?

Its refreshing to see this type of fight being made but I cant help thinking Watson will get chewed up and spat out.

Like Burns in this, although major factor is whether Burns has enough power to make Johanneson just think about wading in. I think he has.

Good post Bennie. I agree, one minute I'm thinking Carl will be too strong for Burns then something is telling me Johannson is over rated and Burns will outbox him for the points.

Ricky Burns has a far better chance than Femi Fehintola did that's for sure and the experience Burns is gaining at quite a young age is refreshing. The fight with Arthur was a good lesson for him and can only make him better for the future.

I like Ricky Burns and win or lose I think he has a great future in boxing.

Sod it, Burns wins.

i didnt realise johanneson was 28, thought he was about 22 / 23 for some reason.

can't wait for this, got my ticket last week!
Carl's always a handful but i reckon he's gonna be fighting like a man possessed with his hometown cheering him on!!
Johanneson via beatdown rnd 6!!!

I like the style of Burns and the fact that as the underdog against Earl he gave him a boxing lesson, when no one gave a chance. Against Arthur he showed greater skill and endurance than bigger named fighters, who have fought Alex, when no one gave him a chance. He can hit harder than most think, but seems to enjoy boxing as a counter puncher and doing things his way. By the way theres not a mark on his face so he must be doing something right. I think this guy will win.

Anyone seen any odds for this yet? I fancy Johansson big time and am hoping to get somewhere near 8/11. Been asking about all over but nobody willing to price it up yet.

Ricky has a good chance in this one, tipping him to win on points. As long as he doesn't try to do a toe to toe he should outbox Johannsen. Just needs to watch out for the hooks. Ricky hits a lot harder than his record suggests, it wouldn't surprise me if he totally fools Johannsen for the first few rounds, and then lets him walk onto a beautifully timed punch and puts him away Good post by Bennie Although for the record he outpointed Kevin Anderson twice when they were near toddlers. Anderson beat him 3 times after that, in their last fight he stopped Ricky. Go on Ricky boy

Burns has talent, you'll see.

Cocoran sucks and Femi was ready for that level.

states wrote:Looking forward to this one. Good fight for a proper title and all that. As for the winner, I've been backing Johanneson to win this one all along. I compared it to a domestic Cotto-Malignaggi a while ago, where the light-hitting guy is right in a close fight, but the stronger man always has the look of the winner. I think Johanneson's heavier shots should be enough to carry him to a points win, although, as I say, it may well be close on the cards.

That's a good take on the fight, and one that I agree with. I can see Johanneson walking down Burns, taking a few but landing his own harder shots. As for picking a winner, it's definitely a case of what you like best, lots of light shots thrown off the back foot, or a smaller number of heavier punches and come forward aggression.

TheGoods wrote:Anyone seen any odds for this yet? I fancy Johansson big time and am hoping to get somewhere near 8/11. Been asking about all over but nobody willing to price it up yet.

Been looking myself but can't find a price anywhere. If you find one, let me know, mate.

TerribleTerry wrote:

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:

sweetscience wrote: fewkes v's craig watson
Mark Thomson v's 'An Ingle fighter'
Stu Mcfaden v's ?

and i think its sold out

Little Ross Burkinshaw is also on. Seems a decent prospect.

What do you think of fewkes v's craig watson, Ian?

Seems a big risk by Maloney to me - does he know something we dont or is he feeding his kid to the wolves?

Its refreshing to see this type of fight being made but I cant help thinking Watson will get chewed up and spat out.

Seems a strange choice and I don't know why he won't match the kid up with Khan as it's obviously more marketable than the other shite he's facing.

I can only think that, like other promoters, a stable cull is looming.

You would have to think Fewkes will have too much for Watson.

i would think that the obstacle to the Watson v Khan fight is coming not from Maloney but Warren. Warren won't put Amir in with a puncher yet. End of.

From what i've seen of fewkes and heard of watson i take fewkesy here. should be a decent dust up.

Johanneson v Burns could be scrap of the year. I lean towards Burns personally but one of Carl's bombs could end it at almost any point.

The Ingle fighter on the undercard is Lee Noble. Good fighter,good skills. Not seen Thompson, should be a good fight.

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:

TheGoods wrote:Anyone seen any odds for this yet? I fancy Johansson big time and am hoping to get somewhere near 8/11. Been asking about all over but nobody willing to price it up yet.

Been looking myself but can't find a price anywhere. If you find one, let me know, mate.

Only prices I can see so far are from extrabet.com They're offering 4/9 on a Johanneson win, 13/8 on a Burns win.

For the KO: Johanneson 13/8, Burns 9/1
On points: Johanneson 2/1, Burns 11/5

The draw is 25/1, and perhaps the safest bet is the 8/15 on it going the distance. An early finish either way is 21/20

More odds when I find them.....

4/9 Johansson looks plenty skinny. I like the Leeds lad to win this but wouldn't touch him at the current odds. Still can't wait for the fight though.

bet365.com

4/6 Johanneson vs Burns 6/5

This is a really good trade fight, confirmed by the amount of people unsure who the victor is going to be.

I was leaning towards Johanneson, becasue he appears the more rounded fighter and critically has more firepower in his arsenal.

But burns is a tidy boxer and the fight With Arthur will have taught him such a lot and now I am leaning towards a tight points win for burns.

Looking forward to it