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Posted: **14 Feb 2007, 15:09**

1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2. Bernard Hopkins
3. Roy Jones Jr.
4. Marco Antonio Barrera
5. Oscar De La Hoya
6. Felix Trinidad

Posted: **14 Feb 2007, 15:15**

Crease wrote:1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2. Bernard Hopkins
3. Roy Jones Jr.
4. Marco Antonio Barrera
5. Oscar De La Hoya
6. Felix Trinidad

In my mind, Oscar De La Hoya is the "greatest" of the current greats. I'm not quite sure how "Tito" Trinidad is even on the list at all. I would switch him with Shane Mosley. Even though Mayweather and Jones are both better boxers than De La Hoya, I think that Oscar has fought far, far better competition and done far more for the sport overall than Roy and Floyd combined. I consider "greatness" to be something more than just boxing ability. My list would go:

1. Oscar De La Hoya
2. Roy Jones Jr.
3. Marco Antonio Barrera
4. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
5. Shane Mosley
6. Bernard Hopkins
7. Tito Trinidad

Posted: **14 Feb 2007, 15:19**

1.Roy Jones Jr.
2.Bernard Hopkins
3.Oscar De La Hoya
4.Floyd Mayweather Jr.
5.Marco Antonio Barrera
6.Felix Trinidad

Posted: **14 Feb 2007, 15:43**

Crease wrote:1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2. Bernard Hopkins
3. Roy Jones Jr.
4. Marco Antonio Barrera
5. Oscar De La Hoya
6. Felix Trinidad

Taking an all-career perspective only DLH and RJJ seem plausible choices. You forgot Sugar Shane, btw. Tito is inactive I thought, but I rank him nonetheless

1 Oscar de la Hoya
2 Roy Jones
3 Shane Mosley
4 Bernard Hopkins
5 Floyd Mayweather Jr.
6 Manny Pacquiao
7 Felix Trinidad
8 Marco Antonio Barrera
9 Winky Wright
10 Erik Morales

Evander Holyfield would be #3 if counted.

Posted: **15 Feb 2007, 01:57**

Decagon wrote:1. Floyd Mayweather, Jr.
2. Roy Jones, Jr.
3. Evander Holyfield
4. Bernard Hopkins
5. Oscar de la Hoya
6. Mike Tyson
7. Marco Antonio Barrera
8. Winky Wright
9. Hong Chang-soo
10. Manny Pacquiao

Why are people naming Trinidad? He isn't even active.

Floyd is way to high.. When he beats Dlh,Cotto and Hatton and a couple more big names he might be Top 3

- Oscar is way too low Sure you can say some of his fights were close and could of gone either but every boxer has some of those 6 Division champ.. Defeated 3 Top fighters when all of them being Top 10 P4P fighters at the time Quartey,Trinidad and Whitaker..

B-Hop is a bit low Became the Unified champ won title in career best win against Trinidad.. then moved up too LHW to beat 1 of the top fighters in the division in a fight few gave him a chance, Both Taylor fights were close as well.. Might be rated higher if his able to defeat Wright..

Posted: **15 Feb 2007, 02:26**

Decagon wrote:De la Hoya a six-division champ?!?!?! No way! He won chickenshit titles at 130 and 160, and an alphabet belt at 135. That's only alphabet belts (WBO excluded) in four divisions. In a few months, Mayweather'll have alphabet belts in five.

Cotto and Hatton? First, Hatton's NOT going to fight Mayweather. He's made that pretty plain by first saying, "I'm not ready for Mayweather," following his win over Tszyu (what kind of champion was he?), and then by saying he'll only take a Mayweather fight for $15 million. Cotto? Easy win for Mayweather. Mayweather should be looking to fight Mosley rather than those two bums.

Cotto and Hatton are the best fighters in Mayweather's weight range who else is their to fight? If you think this guy's are Bum's then what is Baldomir

Floyd will never fight Mosley he didn't want no part of him when they were near in weight why do you think Mosley stayed at Lightweight for so long? Floyd said he wanted to stick around at 130 to beat the Manfredy's of the world..

Posted: **15 Feb 2007, 03:33**

Decagon wrote:Mosley's better than either of those bums. Look at how Hatton did against Collazo compared to how Mosley did. Heck, I'd take Judah over either of them, too. At least he's a true welterweight.

I completely agree with you about Hatton. Mayweather and Mosely would both dominate Hatton. Both fights would end up as a massacre. I slightly disagree with you about Cotto. I think Mayweather would win for sure, but I don't think he would be nearly as easy to beat as Hatton, simply because he is SOOO much bigger than Floyd. Cotto could probably fight at 160 if he wanted to, and floyd really was at his best at 130 (IMO).

You know, it's funny. Cotto is actually shorter than Floyd. He's just so damn thick that he seems (to me) to be a lot taller than the guys he fights. He's built like a tank for the Welterweight division.

That said, the only logical fight for Mayweather after he fights De La Hoya is Mosley. If somehow De La Hoya wins, then I would say the same exact thing for Oscar.

Posted: **15 Feb 2007, 05:13**

I'd have to say Marco Antonio Barrera. His achievements eclipse everyone else.

Posted: **16 Feb 2007, 08:38**

1. De La Hoya
2. Hopkins
3. Mosley
4. Jones Jr.
5. Mayweather
6. Barrera
7. Trinidad

All 7 are very close though.

Posted: **16 Feb 2007, 09:12**

1. De La Hoya
2. Jones Jnr
3. Holyfield
4. Barrera
5. Mayweather
6. Mosley
7. Morales
8. Hopkins
9. Trinidad
10. Toney

Posted: **16 Feb 2007, 13:17**

If you are talking about guys who will be looked at in the annals of boxing history like icons like Dempsey, Ali, Foreman, Louis, Robinson, Hagler, Leonard, not necessarily the greatest (though these guys are), but the guys an era will be rememberd for I'd say.

1. Oscar De La Hoya
2. Lennox Lewis
3. Felix Trinidad
4. Marco Antonio Barrera
5. Evander Holyfield
6. Roy Jones jr.
7. Bernard Hopkins
8. Manny Pacquiao
9. Floyd Mayweather jr.
10. James Toney

Close & Growing: Jermaine Taylor, Miguel Cotto
Just off the list: Erik Morales, Shane Mosley
Wild Cards: Rafael Marquez, Israel Vazquez (The winner will probably take the title of top dog in mexican fighting once Barrera retires)

Mayweather & Pacquiao have alot of room to move up in the list and have the potential to.

Guys like Calzaghe, Wright, Castillo, Hatton, Casamayor, JM Marquez, Corrales etc will go down as really good even great fighters, but just enlarged footnotes in the history books and opponents for those who became Icons,

Posted: **19 Feb 2007, 14:58**

1 - Oscar de la Hoya

Posted: **19 Feb 2007, 15:08**

Decagon wrote:
iceman21287 wrote:I slightly disagree with you about Cotto. I think Mayweather would win for sure, but I don't think he would be nearly as easy to beat as Hatton, simply because he is SOOO much bigger than Floyd. Cotto could probably fight at 160 if he wanted to, and floyd really was at his best at 130 (IMO).

You know, it's funny. Cotto is actually shorter than Floyd. He's just so damn thick that he seems (to me) to be a lot taller than the guys he fights. He's built like a tank for the Welterweight division.

That said, the only logical fight for Mayweather after he fights De La Hoya is Mosley. If somehow De La Hoya wins, then I would say the same exact thing for Oscar.
Cotto simply isn't very good, aside from his punch. I'll be surprised if he beats Judah.

Cotto is a very good body puncher and is effective at cutting off the ring by the time the fight reaches the Mid rounds Cotto will break down Zab for a Late KO/TKO

Posted: **19 Feb 2007, 15:10**

Decagon wrote:Mosley's better than either of those bums. Look at how Hatton did against Collazo compared to how Mosley did. Heck, I'd take Judah over either of them, too. At least he's a true welterweight.

Never did I say Hatton would move-up im sure Floyd could still make 140 if the money was right.. :) Unless he enjoys beating the Gatt's of the worlf..

Posted: **19 Feb 2007, 15:34**

Roy Jones Jr is probably the greatest active fighter IMO.

He may be currently more washed up than Danny Williams' favourite plate, but he is arguably the most naturally gifted fighter that ever lived.

Posted: **19 Feb 2007, 15:43**

HAL has a say in this... Only including those who have had bouts in the past year.

1. Oscar De La Hoya
2. Roy Jones Jr
3. Bernard Hopkins
4. Floyd Mayweather Jr
5. Marco Antonio Barrera
6. Evander Holyfield
7. Erik Morales
8. Shane Mosley
9. Winky Wright
T10. Miguel Angel Gonzalez
T10. Virgil Hill
T12. Manny Pacquiao
T12. James Toney
14. Diego Corrales
15. Joe Calzaghe

Posted: **19 Feb 2007, 16:08**

Thats a pretty decent list. I didn't rank Trinidad either. I think most people think he will comeback and think of him as a current fighter.

1. De La Hoya
2. Jones
3. Mosley
4. Hopkins
5. Pacquiao
6. Barrera
7. Morales
8. Wright
9. Mayweather
10. Toney

Holyfield is technically still a curent fighter, but his career has really been over for several years. I counted him I would rate him #1.

Some fighters could go up. Mayweather in particular could move up with some big wins.

Posted: **20 Feb 2007, 21:06**

1. Holyfield- by far
2. Hopkins- KO's Jones in the rematch in '99, NO DOUBT, easier than you realize now, maybe, unless you're in the Jones Mickey Mouse Club
3. DelaHoya- clumsy, as Mosley proved, but strong, fast, and iron chinned
4. Mayweather- Floyd didn't raise no pussy
5. Jones- talented but highly overrated career pussy..repugnant personality..PPV zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay..Micky Mouse Club..Glenn Johnson fucked his world

Posted: **20 Feb 2007, 22:36**

I'd say Hopkins, Delahoya and Mosley have all are about equal, They have all faced the best opposition around there weights and all done well in there careers.

Posted: **21 Feb 2007, 04:09**

I have to go with De La Hoya, in my opinion what makes a great fighter is fighting the best of the best and winning more often than not. Sure De La Hoya has 4 losses, but look at who those losses are to.. three of the best fighters of his era. Not only that but two of those losses are controversial, and he also has controversial wins against fighters, but the fact that he's been able to compete with fighters such as Whitaker (albeit an older version), Chavez (also and older version), Camacho (a bit older, but still all great fighters), Mosley, Hopkins, Quartey, Trinidad, Vargas, and not to mention other fighters who although not great, were still very good fighters that could hang with most of today's fighters, is a testament to how good he is. Based on skill, he'd probably lose to the best fighters of all-time who fought in the same weight classes, but he'd give them hell before letting them get a win. In terms of skill, Jones Jr. is probably better, along with Mosley, Hopkins and probably a few other fighters here and there, but his willingness to fight the best is what makes him the greatest. You can be the best and still not be the greatest if you don't prove it.

Posted: **21 Feb 2007, 06:36**

Ben Keilty wrote:I'd say Hopkins, Delahoya and Mosley are about equal, They have all faced the best opposition around there weights and all done well in there careers.

Posted: **21 Feb 2007, 14:35**

Professor X wrote:1. Holyfield- by far

Why "by far"?

2. Hopkins- KO's Jones in the rematch in '99, NO DOUBT

There was a rematch? Dang, I must have missed that.

Ha, ha, De La Hoya "clumsy" - I pretty much stopped reading your drivel right there, "Professor." I wonder who accredited the "Institution of Higher Learning" you're affiliated with?

So you basically base your list on personal biases and what you think woulda coulda shoulda happened - sorry, but this discussion is about ranking the fighters based on a really nitpicky technical thing called "actual accomplishments." You wanna play fantasy boxing, start a separate thread.

Posted: **22 Feb 2007, 20:30**

Holyfield was a legit cruiserweight champion who also won the heavyweight championship three times. That won't ever happen again in your lifetime, not even close, zip-a-dee-dooh-dah dingle-berry #1, Eric. You'll be dead and gone by then, if it possibly even could happen again. Remember Professor X told you so.

Just as a quick aside- see Tarver-Jones and then Hopkins-Tarver. That should give you at least a small clue...but knowing you, Jones' biggest dingle-berry, probably not.

DeLaHoya is obviously a bit clumsy, like many heavy punchers are, numbskull. And Mosley turned him around (Mosley is not clumsy btw).

Posted: **19 Apr 2011, 21:44**

BUMP

Just thought I'd bump this after the few years have went by and see how people's perceptions have changed.

Posted: **19 Apr 2011, 22:10**

Of strictly active fighters . . .

1) Manny Pacquao

2) Evander Holyfield

3) Bernard Hopkins

4) Roy Jones Jr

5) Erik Morales

6) Floyd Mayweather Jr

7) Juan Manual Marquez

8) Marco Antonio Barrera

9) James Toney

10) Shane Mosley

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