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JOHN RAWLING, talking b#llocks yet again

Posted: 19 Feb 2007, 06:42
by overhand_right
Im sure there are any number of quotes we could bring up, but after Sprott iced Fraudley on saturday night Rawling shared his wise words with us all like the old sage he is "Oh i heard a lot of people in the build up to this fight saying 'Michael Sprott? Not much of a fight is it, he hasn't got a chance'.. well, (queue know-it-all patronising tone) THIS IS HEAVYWEIGHT BOXING FOLKS."

Maybe Rawling should re-read his own preview, Saturday morning in The Guardian:

"there seems little other conclusion to be reached than that Sprott might meet a similar fate to Williams"

and

"Harrison will have too much firepower and force a victory within nine rounds to set up a May showdown with the Commonwealth champion Matt Skelton to establish who can rightly claim to be Britain's best"

John Rawling: a Boxing Expert (after a fight has concluded)

Posted: 19 Feb 2007, 07:30
by Goz
I like Rawlings, preferred him on the radio though. Easy to shoot people down who are up there writing articles and commentating, we could pick holes or apparent contradictions in anyones work...

Rawling is a fan and I think quite sensible in what he says... No offence intended to you Overhand Right but I think you interpreting his tone as know-it-all and patronising might say more about you than him!

Posted: 19 Feb 2007, 07:34
by overhand_right
Im pointing out that he told us we were all wrong and 'this is heavyweight boxing folks' when in actual fact anybody who had read his own preview the morning of the fight would have come away thinking it was a mismatch and Audley would roll right over him.

Dont know how this says more about 'me' than it does Rawling but whatever mate. :roll:

Posted: 19 Feb 2007, 07:38
by Goz
I just took it as him making a point that the Heavyweight division is boxings most volatile and that fights can turn/end in a split second, not that he was in some way trying to claim the high ground?

I wasn't happy with my choice of words when I said it says more about you! What I was getting at is that you seem to have some kind of problem with Rawling that's all, I just took his comment as I feel he meant it, I think you're reading too much into it. As I said no offence intended.

Posted: 19 Feb 2007, 07:39
by Mr Boogaloo
Sucks for him that he's so concerned about MMA's increased popularity that he has to have a swipe at the sport.

Cheers for the publicity, John, you bozo :)

Posted: 19 Feb 2007, 08:00
by harrygreb
rawling should have fessed up that it was himself primarily that gave sprott no chance, instead of passing it over to the mystical "..alot of people"

Posted: 19 Feb 2007, 08:01
by harrygreb
boxing makes us go through many and varied emotional states through the years but this fight ended with me laughing my bolux off

Posted: 19 Feb 2007, 08:12
by overhand_right
harrygreb wrote:rawling should have fessed up that it was himself primarily that gave sprott no chance, instead of passing it over to the mystical "..alot of people"
That was my point. He avoided the fact that the people he was talking about included himself and his own write up.

Goz, you're right i dont really like Herr Rawling, talks too much bollocks to me, along with his sidekick, the deranged Duke McKenzie. No offense to you either bud :box:

Posted: 19 Feb 2007, 08:48
by Autobarn
Give it a rest everyone. If it's so important for sniffing through people's shit caked underpants, why is no one getting on Rawling for not saying that the EU was a fake European belt - while he had the chance on live TV?

Posted: 19 Feb 2007, 09:27
by dondada
John Rawling is a very good journalist. So he called the fight wrong. He gave his opinion and it was wrong. Big deal.

I've done it a thousand times and will probably continue to do so.

Posted: 19 Feb 2007, 09:37
by The Blade
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:John Rawling is a very good journalist. So he called the fight wrong. He gave his opinion and it was wrong. Big deal.

I've done it a thousand times and will probably continue to do so.
Correct ... if he could get it right all the time, he could sit in the bookies and wouldn't need to work.

Posted: 19 Feb 2007, 09:38
by Hot Tub Man#1
dead right mr mcneilly.

i honestly can't see what people have against him. so what he called the fight wrong?

i also like the fact he had a pop at MMA but then i am personally biased because i can't bear MMA.

fair point about the EU title though, and it occurred to me at the time that it was being passed off as the proper one ...

as for mcguigan though - he is just a total hype machine and some of his wildly excitable claims are just embarrassing.

Posted: 19 Feb 2007, 09:45
by JC
I don't have a problem with Rawling either (except he says "big right 'and" a bit too much).

However I think the point Overhand was making was not that he called the fight wrong, but that he called it wrong and then tried to sond all "sage" by saying people shouldn't have written Sprott off when he was just as guilty of doing so himself.

Seems a nice fella though.

Posted: 19 Feb 2007, 10:20
by Autobarn
Hot Tub Man#1 wrote:dead right mr mcneilly.

i honestly can't see what people have against him. so what he called the fight wrong?

i also like the fact he had a pop at MMA but then i am personally biased because i can't bear MMA.

fair point about the EU title though, and it occurred to me at the time that it was being passed off as the proper one ...

as for mcguigan though - he is just a total hype machine and some of his wildly excitable claims are just embarrassing.
one thing I've never liked about Barry is that he's a bag of nervous energy on TV.

Posted: 19 Feb 2007, 10:24
by E
viciousmaussa wrote:
Hot Tub Man#1 wrote:dead right mr mcneilly.

i honestly can't see what people have against him. so what he called the fight wrong?

i also like the fact he had a pop at MMA but then i am personally biased because i can't bear MMA.

fair point about the EU title though, and it occurred to me at the time that it was being passed off as the proper one ...

as for mcguigan though - he is just a total hype machine and some of his wildly excitable claims are just embarrassing.
one thing I've never liked about Barry is that he's a bag of nervous energy on TV.
As I understand it, this is because of Barry's severe crack habit....boxing suits him fine, as when the round is over, he has one minute to rush to the toilet and lick up the pipe quick style....

Then when the next round ends and he's coming down - he can rush back and pipe another one up.....

Posted: 19 Feb 2007, 11:22
by silkov
E wrote:
viciousmaussa wrote:
Hot Tub Man#1 wrote:dead right mr mcneilly.

i honestly can't see what people have against him. so what he called the fight wrong?

i also like the fact he had a pop at MMA but then i am personally biased because i can't bear MMA.

fair point about the EU title though, and it occurred to me at the time that it was being passed off as the proper one ...

as for mcguigan though - he is just a total hype machine and some of his wildly excitable claims are just embarrassing.
one thing I've never liked about Barry is that he's a bag of nervous energy on TV.
As I understand it, this is because of Barry's severe crack habit....boxing suits him fine, as when the round is over, he has one minute to rush to the toilet and lick up the pipe quick style....

Then when the next round ends and he's coming down - he can rush back and pipe another one up.....
I think youre out of order saying that, ...just because you spend most of your life off your head doesnt mean everyone else is the same mate!... Barrys done more in his life than you could ever dream of in your wildest trips!...

Posted: 19 Feb 2007, 11:26
by silkov
overhand_right wrote:
harrygreb wrote:rawling should have fessed up that it was himself primarily that gave sprott no chance, instead of passing it over to the mystical "..alot of people"
That was my point. He avoided the fact that the people he was talking about included himself and his own write up.

Goz, you're right i dont really like Herr Rawling, talks too much bollocks to me, along with his sidekick, the deranged Duke McKenzie. No offense to you either bud :box:
I agree with you to a certain extent, Rawling can come over as a mite condecending like we've never seen a boxing match before (did we need telling that this was heavyweight boxing!!) but I thought a lot of it was ITV trying to cover their embarrasment after hailing Audely following the Williams fight and then seeing him on his arse in this fight.
Also to be fair to Duke and Rawling I think theyve improved somewhat since previous shows, less mistakes during commentary etc... I didnt find myself needing to turn the sound down this time...

Posted: 19 Feb 2007, 11:45
by Autobarn
silkov wrote:
E wrote:
viciousmaussa wrote:one thing I've never liked about Barry is that he's a bag of nervous energy on TV.
As I understand it, this is because of Barry's severe crack habit....boxing suits him fine, as when the round is over, he has one minute to rush to the toilet and lick up the pipe quick style....

Then when the next round ends and he's coming down - he can rush back and pipe another one up.....
I think youre out of order saying that, ...just because you spend most of your life off your head doesnt mean everyone else is the same mate!... Barrys done more in his life than you could ever dream of in your wildest trips!...
He's always jerking around and it gets on my nerves.

Posted: 19 Feb 2007, 11:51
by silkov
viciousmaussa wrote:
silkov wrote:
E wrote: As I understand it, this is because of Barry's severe crack habit....boxing suits him fine, as when the round is over, he has one minute to rush to the toilet and lick up the pipe quick style....

Then when the next round ends and he's coming down - he can rush back and pipe another one up.....
I think youre out of order saying that, ...just because you spend most of your life off your head doesnt mean everyone else is the same mate!... Barrys done more in his life than you could ever dream of in your wildest trips!...
oh, F UCK OFF. He's always jerking around and it gets on my nerves.
Feck off yourself you tosspot!... 8)

Posted: 19 Feb 2007, 13:10
by harrygreb
silkov for gods sake cant you take a joke???

Posted: 19 Feb 2007, 15:07
by silkov
harrygreb wrote:silkov for gods sake cant you take a joke???
Nope!... 8)

Posted: 19 Feb 2007, 15:22
by E
silkov wrote:
E wrote:
viciousmaussa wrote:one thing I've never liked about Barry is that he's a bag of nervous energy on TV.
As I understand it, this is because of Barry's severe crack habit....boxing suits him fine, as when the round is over, he has one minute to rush to the toilet and lick up the pipe quick style....

Then when the next round ends and he's coming down - he can rush back and pipe another one up.....
I think youre out of order saying that, ...just because you spend most of your life off your head doesnt mean everyone else is the same mate!... Barrys done more in his life than you could ever dream of in your wildest trips!...
Ummm jaysus.... can't you see an obvious piss take even when it's right in front of your face yelling loudly "I am just taking the piss!!!!"?????

I mean do you seriously think I was suggesting Barry was a crackhead???

Barry was a strong and exciting world champion who got out of the game with all his faculties intact.

Good on him......

Posted: 19 Feb 2007, 15:31
by rhino222
lets stop picking holes in every commentator or analyst....and lets enjoy what we see on the screen and stop worrying about what comes out of the speakers !!

Posted: 19 Feb 2007, 15:43
by silkov
E wrote:
silkov wrote:
E wrote: As I understand it, this is because of Barry's severe crack habit....boxing suits him fine, as when the round is over, he has one minute to rush to the toilet and lick up the pipe quick style....

Then when the next round ends and he's coming down - he can rush back and pipe another one up.....
I think youre out of order saying that, ...just because you spend most of your life off your head doesnt mean everyone else is the same mate!... Barrys done more in his life than you could ever dream of in your wildest trips!...
Ummm jaysus.... can't you see an obvious piss take even when it's right in front of your face yelling loudly "I am just taking the piss!!!!"?????

I mean do you seriously think I was suggesting Barry was a crackhead???

Barry was a strong and exciting world champion who got out of the game with all his faculties intact.

Good on him......

Please let me know in future when you're jokin!... 8)

Posted: 20 Feb 2007, 05:25
by Goz
I think we could all help and let Silkov know when somebody is joking!

Back to Rawling, I still think a few are a tad over-critical of him but his failing to mention that the 'European' title being contested by Harrison & Sprott was a crock of shit is a good point, he should have said something.