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I did the same job as Alp but for 175. I included the 1920s, but data exist only for little more than half the decade (since 1924). The main problem with these ratins is that they put longevity above all.

1920s

1 Jimmy Slattery 39
2 Young Stribling 33
3 Tommy Loughran 30
4 Mike McTigue 29
5 Maxie Rosenbloom 27
6 Jack Delaney 25
7 Paul Berlenbach 23
8 Leo Lomski 23
9 Yale Okun 19
10 Gene Tunney 10 (only one rating in 1924)
10 Eddie Huffman 10

1930s

1 John Henry Lewis 68
2 Maxie Rosenbloom 64
3 Bob Olin 33
4 Al Gainer 31
5 Joe Knight 30
6 Jock McAvoy 27
7 Billy Jones 25
8 Tony Shucco 24
9 Gus Lesnevich 20
9 Melio Bettina 20

1940s (biased by the fact that the title was frozen during WWII)

1 Gus Lesnevich 94
2 Freddie Mills 53
3 Archie Moore 36
4 Lloyd Marshall 35
5 Ezzard Charles 27
6 Anton Christoforidis 22
7 Alabama Kid 20
8 Billy Fox 18
9 Nate Bolden 17
9 Billy Smith 17

1950s

1 Archie Moore 107
2 Harold Johnson 68
3 Joey Maxim 57
4 Gerhard Hecht 30
5 Yolande Pompey 29
6 Tony Anthony 24
7 Floyd Patterson 21
8 Harry (Kid) Matthews 19
8 Chuck Spieser 19
10 Danny Nardico 18
10 Willi Hoeppner 18

1960s -- here the longevity factor pulls a bad trick with Cotton #1

1 Eddie Cotton 51
2 Harold Johnson 50
3 Gregorio Peralta 44
4 Dick Tiger 42
5 Bob Foster 40
6 Willie Pastrano 38
7 Mauro Mina 36
8 Giulo Rinaldi 34
8 Jose Torres 26
10 Bob Dunlop 23

1970s

1 Victor Galindez 61
2 John Conteh 50
3 Bob Foster 44
4 Alvaro Lopez 29
5 Pierre Fourie 27
5 Richie Kates 27
7 Len Hutchins 25
8 Andy Kendall 23
9 Matthew Saad Muhammad 20
10 Vicente Rondon 19

Where's Billy Conn rank in the 1930s and 1940s, have you forgotten about him? I disagreed with Victor Galindez and John Conteh being the no.1 light heavyweight of the 1970s, I referred Bob Foster as the no.1 light heavyweight of that decade followed by Victor Galindez at no.2 and John Conteh no.3.

Where is Greb in the twenties? He beat five of your top ten and was avoided by Stribling, Delaney, and Berlenbach.

klompton wrote:Where is Greb in the twenties? He beat five of your top ten and was avoided by Stribling, Delaney, and Berlenbach.

Remember these are based on the Ring magazine's ratings not pundit's personal opinion. The site only has rankings starting in 1924 Greb is ranked at middleweight 1924-25 and then stops being ranked at any weight in 1926 probably becuase the rankings are made at the end of the year by which point he had retired.

kovit wrote:Where's Billy Conn rank in the 1930s and 1940s, have you forgotten about him? I disagreed with Victor Galindez and John Conteh being the no.1 light heavyweight of the 1970s, I referred Bob Foster as the no.1 light heavyweight of that decade followed by Victor Galindez at no.2 and John Conteh no.3.

Again this is due to the ring rankings

Foster is only ranked at LHW uptil 1974 where as Conteh remained in the top ten for most of the decade so the accumulation of points gives him a higer place.

Conn is only ranked at LHW for two years in the 30s and one in the 40s after which he gets ranked at heavyweight.

kovit wrote:Where's Billy Conn rank in the 1930s and 1940s, have you forgotten about him? I disagreed with Victor Galindez and John Conteh being the no.1 light heavyweight of the 1970s, I referred Bob Foster as the no.1 light heavyweight of that decade followed by Victor Galindez at no.2 and John Conteh no.3.

That's the problem with these lists. Conn was ranked only three years by the Ring magazine at 175 -- 1938 as #9, 1939 and 1940 as champion. Thereafter the moved up to heavy. Not sufficiently many years to make it into a decade long ranking.

EDIT: just see that J-C explaiend all of this already.

Thanks for adding this up, Pundit.
It's true that this system isn't fair to certain fighters. A guy like Foster, who was great in the last 1960's and early 1970's doesn't do as well as he really was.
Conn would have had 12 more points for being champion in 1940, but that doesn't count toward his 1930's total. He didn't get any points for the rest of the 1940's because he was now fighting heavyweights.

One thing that this system does point out is that Conn wasn't a lightheavweight for long. (At least fighting lightheavyweights). Everyone thinks of him as a lightheavyweight. However, during his first few years he was a middleweight, the next few years a light heavyweight, and then a few years as a heavyweight.

Where's Bert?

Where's Bert?

He was a 'middleweight', and we know the rest!

You can't go by Ring rankings. there were so many quality guys in the 30s and 40s leapfrogging from middle to light HW to HW and back. VERY deep place for a 175 lb fighter.

jimglen wrote:Where's Bert?

He was a 'middleweight', and we know the rest!

He didn't make the 160 ranking by decade either. Or the one about the best middleweights who never won a world title.

Looks like the book didn't do a very good job of convincing people...