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What's happening with Mundine?
Posted: 06 Apr 2007, 08:35
by Autobarn
After his excellent form, it seems he might be trying to forge US contacts having been in touch with Angelo Dundee, who recognised his ability.
Figured Mundine might have tried to get easy revenge on Siaca, but Green has nabbed that fight.
So what's Mundine going to do to advance his career? Wouldn't the logical step be Calzaghe? That could be a superfight, IMO.
Posted: 06 Apr 2007, 09:10
by bollox
A Calzaghe fight would end in a defeat for Anthony. He's too good for him, even at age 34. If Mundine wanted the fight I'd say he had the name and clout to make it happen some years ago. There's a good reason why he's barely mentioned it
Posted: 06 Apr 2007, 14:31
by Autobarn
I think Mundine poses a very difficult match for Calzaghe. Mundine is one of the most naturally talented fighters around and he seems to have matured a great deal, become a much more rounded & aggressive fighter. He is on shit hot form right now and Calzaghe's not faced many classy counter punchers.
It was actually Warren who killed off a fight, by making a very poor offer to stage the fight. This is a fight that really should happen. I honestly don't see much to seperate Calzaghe, Kessler and Mundine as they are right now.
Posted: 06 Apr 2007, 20:37
by Marlin
Final Fight wrote:I honestly don't see much to seperate Calzaghe, Kessler and Mundine as they are right now.
Kessler has beaten him once and he would beat him again. Calzaghe Mundine would be interesting styistically but I don't think Joe a has great deal to gain from it, hang on hear me out here, most people (well probably everyone except yourself) see Kessler and Calzaghe as the clear top two in the division and they are constantly competing with each other for the top spot. Kessler has already beaten Mundine with relative ease, so even though Mundine is the third best at 168 unless Calzaghe can knock him out it will be seen as a lesser performance than Kessler achieved against him. This means it is fairly high risk and very low reward for Joe and I think we all know what sort of risks Calzaghe takes. I also agree with what bollox said as well. If you ask me I think Joe will either keep fighting sub par competition or step it up against Kessler.
As for the original question, I still think Mundine will have a first defence against a tomato can then look for a decent fight after that...
Posted: 07 Apr 2007, 02:03
by Sweet P
I think Mundine-Kessler would end up the same as the first fight except a bit closer on the scorecards,
Mundine-Calzaghe would be interesting as Calzaghe is normally the quicker man in his fights and in this one he wouldn't be. I think Mundine could pull an upset win over Calzaghe who has been severely overrated after exposing Lacy.
At the moment Kessler is the best at 168 which ever way you look at it, He has beaten better fighters in the past 4-5 fights and is cleaning out the division.
Posted: 07 Apr 2007, 04:14
by Autobarn
Marlin wrote:Final Fight wrote:I honestly don't see much to seperate Calzaghe, Kessler and Mundine as they are right now.
Kessler has beaten him once and he would beat him again. Calzaghe Mundine would be interesting styistically but I don't think Joe a has great deal to gain from it, hang on hear me out here, most people (well probably everyone except yourself) see Kessler and Calzaghe as the clear top two in the division and they are constantly competing with each other for the top spot. Kessler has already beaten Mundine with relative ease, so even though Mundine is the third best at 168 unless Calzaghe can knock him out it will be seen as a lesser performance than Kessler achieved against him. This means it is fairly high risk and very low reward for Joe and I think we all know what sort of risks Calzaghe takes. I also agree with what bollox said as well. If you ask me I think Joe will either keep fighting sub par competition or step it up against Kessler.
As for the original question, I still think Mundine will have a first defence against a tomato can then look for a decent fight after that...
Sorry, but who told you Kessler beat Mundine with "relative ease"?
There was nothing "relatively easy" about the fight.
It was Kessler's only competitive fight, and Mundine was giving him nightmares in there. Kessler is normally in control of opponents but he had to play sloppy catchup after Mundine caught him with faster punches...flailing away with Mundine avoiding most of the shots on the ropes.
The shutout scorecard was the most stupid thing I've ever seen and a fairer reflection of the fight would be Kessler winning by 3 points.
The warning signs are all there. Kessler was troubled in their first fight, though he had a poor preparation. The subsequent dominations of Green and Soliman. I find it funny that ppl are actually going to be surprised when Mundine does something big.
In boxing, fighters with big reps from different lands should fight each other. If a promoter can promote, you know, do his job, then it can be made big.
Posted: 13 Apr 2007, 02:47
by Grant
I would love to see Kessler Vs Mundine rematch. I have been a critic of Mundine in the past but I think that is more because of his persona and most likely his failure to acknowledge to anyone that this title is essentially bullsh it. His dad had 10 fights where he fought top contenders, each one of them could have been a title in todays scene. Never the less I believe he could take Kessler because this time he would stand up to him. Anyway it would be a banging match for 4-5 rounds.
Posted: 13 Apr 2007, 02:49
by Grant
Final Fight wrote:Marlin wrote:Final Fight wrote:I honestly don't see much to seperate Calzaghe, Kessler and Mundine as they are right now.
Kessler has beaten him once and he would beat him again. Calzaghe Mundine would be interesting styistically but I don't think Joe a has great deal to gain from it, hang on hear me out here, most people (well probably everyone except yourself) see Kessler and Calzaghe as the clear top two in the division and they are constantly competing with each other for the top spot. Kessler has already beaten Mundine with relative ease, so even though Mundine is the third best at 168 unless Calzaghe can knock him out it will be seen as a lesser performance than Kessler achieved against him. This means it is fairly high risk and very low reward for Joe and I think we all know what sort of risks Calzaghe takes. I also agree with what bollox said as well. If you ask me I think Joe will either keep fighting sub par competition or step it up against Kessler.
As for the original question, I still think Mundine will have a first defence against a tomato can then look for a decent fight after that...
Sorry, but who told you Kessler beat Mundine with "relative ease"?
There was nothing "relatively easy" about the fight.
It was Kessler's only competitive fight, and Mundine was giving him nightmares in there. Kessler is normally in control of opponents but he had to play sloppy catchup after Mundine caught him with faster punches...flailing away with Mundine avoiding most of the shots on the ropes.
The shutout scorecard was the most stupid thing I've ever seen and a fairer reflection of the fight would be Kessler winning by 3 points.
The warning signs are all there. Kessler was troubled in their first fight, though he had a poor preparation. The subsequent dominations of Green and Soliman. I find it funny that ppl are actually going to be surprised when Mundine does something big.
In boxing, fighters with big reps from different lands should fight each other. If a promoter can promote, you know, do his job, then it can be made big.
by the way I agree with your assessment of the kessler fight. Mundine was never in a position to win it but certainly didn't lose every round IMO
Posted: 08 May 2007, 22:55
by AntonS
Posted: 08 May 2007, 23:04
by Marlin

Wow what a great opponent!?! No surprise really but I am surprised that Soliman is slated to be on the undercard!!!
Posted: 09 May 2007, 01:53
by ryan711
4 rounds at best for Pablo Daniel Zamora Nievas.had a draw with Ruben Eduardo Acosta and was down twice in the fight.
Posted: 09 May 2007, 02:02
by Marlin
ryan711 wrote:4 rounds at best for Pablo Daniel Zamora Nievas.had a draw with Ruben Eduardo Acosta and was down twice in the fight.
That alone proves what a ridiculous fight this is! You can't even call this a tune up, I bet Mundine has tougher fights in sparring! I can't believe anyone would pay to see this, it is the sort of thing that shouldn't even get sanctioned...
Posted: 09 May 2007, 03:26
by Sweet P
Marlin wrote:ryan711 wrote:4 rounds at best for Pablo Daniel Zamora Nievas.had a draw with Ruben Eduardo Acosta and was down twice in the fight.
That alone proves what a ridiculous fight this is! You can't even call this a tune up, I bet Mundine has tougher fights in sparring! I can't believe anyone would pay to see this, it is the sort of thing that shouldn't even get sanctioned...
I totally agree Marlin, Another pathetic opponent that is not even a worthy sparring partner.
Posted: 09 May 2007, 04:01
by AntonS
Posted: 09 May 2007, 06:26
by ryan711
Posted: 09 May 2007, 07:49
by Marlin
ryan711 wrote:
WTF!?!
Posted: 09 May 2007, 10:00
by ryan711
lol its on ebay for like $9 lol
Posted: 10 May 2007, 04:35
by bollox
Mundine: "RACISM is rugby" (ie "I have a fight coming up and need to stir up a bit of interest any way that I can")
Wanker

Posted: 10 May 2007, 04:37
by thunderfromdownunder
man i was really hoping choc would step up. from Green and Soliman to this?
man there are plenty of good SMWs in europe, why couldnt he bring one of them over.
Posted: 10 May 2007, 04:45
by Marlin
thunderfromdownunder wrote:man i was really hoping choc would step up. from Green and Soliman to this?
man there are plenty of good SMWs in europe, why couldnt he bring one of them over.
Because most of them have gone more than six rounds! How the fcuk does a bloke who has
never gone more than six rounds get a Title shot!?! Legit Title or not it is absurd that this has been sanctioned as a Title fight...
I just can't get over this one

Posted: 10 May 2007, 04:56
by bollox
Marlin wrote:thunderfromdownunder wrote:man i was really hoping choc would step up. from Green and Soliman to this?
man there are plenty of good SMWs in europe, why couldnt he bring one of them over.
Because most of them have gone more than six rounds! How the fcuk does a bloke who has
never gone more than six rounds get a Title shot!?! Legit Title or not it is absurd that this has been sanctioned as a Title fight...
I just can't get over this one

I'm not sure if anyone else sees this but here goes anyway..........a lot of Sydneysiders seem to go to Mundine fights for the 'event' whereas I know from experience that Melburnites go to big fights mainly for the
fight first and foremost
I can guarantee that this fight would sell extremely poorly down here
p.s. "RACISM I tell ya"
Posted: 10 May 2007, 04:59
by Marlin
The fight is on the Gold Coast... What do you think they go to boxing for?

Posted: 10 May 2007, 05:01
by bollox
Marlin wrote:The fight is on the Gold Coast... What do you think they go to boxing for?

See how much attention I pay to Mundine
Brisbane was a big fight city in days gone by. In the 80's Brian Janssen used to pack the Festival hall every time he fought

Posted: 10 May 2007, 05:13
by Marlin
bollox wrote:Marlin wrote:The fight is on the Gold Coast... What do you think they go to boxing for?

See how much attention I pay to Mundine
Brisbane was a big fight city in days gone by. In the 80's Brian Janssen used to pack the Festival hall every time he fought


Thats fair enough mate
I reckon there will be a fair few free tickets floating around for this one...