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Do you think we should all easy up on him? after all Willie is his best opponent to date.

i think he stops limmond properly, he is defo the future and i dont think anyone would be able to argue.

hopefully he does, we need another world class figher with hatton and clazaghe not having many fights left, and i dont see where else our next talent will come from with the exception of maybe Haye

i have a lot of time n respect for limmond but i think he takes a defeat here.i dont think its going to be as easy as everyone thinks tho.
points win khan,hope im wrong tho.

sweetscience wrote:i think he stops limmond properly, he is defo the future and i dont think anyone would be able to argue.

hopefully he does, we need another world class figher with hatton and clazaghe not having many fights left, and i dont see where else our next talent will come from with the exception of maybe Haye

i ment IF he stops him properly

personally i think its going to get stopped by a flurry ie calzaghe / manfredo

As a big Limond fan I hope he scores a big upset over Khan.

However Limond has been very inactive of late and my respect fpr Khan if he wins will in part depend on how good Limond looks in the fight, as he may be very rusty, which I assume is what Team Khan are hoping for.

sweetscience wrote:

sweetscience wrote:i think he stops limmond properly, he is defo the future and i dont think anyone would be able to argue.

hopefully he does, we need another world class figher with hatton and clazaghe not having many fights left, and i dont see where else our next talent will come from with the exception of maybe Haye

i ment IF he stops him properly

personally i think its going to get stopped by a flurry ie calzaghe / manfredo

Yep, thats more than likely the way its going to end - Its a step up for Khan but still a low risk fight with almost no chance of an upset - Maybe Murray next if Khan does well but that would be a tougher one.

I can't help but feel a Judah-esque KO is heading Khan's way.

I hope not and indeed hope he fulfills his publicised potential.

how much notice has willie had, this is a key thing

rhino222 wrote:how much notice has willie had, this is a key thing

a few months.

Limond has had plenty of time and hopefully will give Amir a few rounds before getting knocked-out. Great learning fight for Amir-let's hope more are to follow.

G0mez wrote:I can't help but feel a Judah-esque KO is heading Khan's way.

I hope not and indeed hope he fulfills his publicised potential.

I don't know. Khan will be brought along in such a way that it won't have a chance of happening. Doubt he'll be thrown in vs Juan Diaz just yet.

On here, because we dislike Khan's hype/opposition, we can be hard on him. Count me among them. But he is a brilliant talent with speed/power who is still maturing physically.

Lennox and Calzaghe used to often look piss poor, even amateurish before they got world titles. And I think with Khan nearing the 15 fight mark, this seems to be the tradition of the gradual step up.


I wonder provided Khan's career goes as expected if we'll ever see Khan v Arthur?

Final Fight wrote:

G0mez wrote:I can't help but feel a Judah-esque KO is heading Khan's way.

I hope not and indeed hope he fulfills his publicised potential.

I don't know. Khan will be brought along in such a way that it won't have a chance of happening. Doubt he'll be thrown in vs Juan Diaz just yet.

On here, because we dislike Khan's hype/opposition, we can be hard on him. Count me among them. But he is a brilliant talent with speed/power who is still maturing physically.

Lennox and Calzaghe used to often look piss poor, even amateurish before they got world titles. And I think with Khan nearing the 15 fight mark, this seems to be the tradition of the gradual step up.


I wonder provided Khan's career goes as expected if we'll ever see Khan v Arthur?

this is the thing - ppl confuse the dislike for personality, or hype, or opposition, for a denial of talent.

yes, this is why some of the American posters are more positive and actually bemused by many of our attitudes.

on the other hand, i seem to get interested in fighters that current sceners are low on, ie chavez jr. the kid's develope d anice pro style despite his 1 or 2 hiccups.

Final Fight wrote:yes, this is why some of the American posters are more positive and actually bemused by many of our attitudes.

on the other hand, i seem to get interested in fighters that current sceners are low on, ie chavez jr. the kid's develope d anice pro style despite his 1 or 2 hiccups.

how did he get on this w/end? he fought Grover Wiley apparently, who had previously beaten his dad apparently.

and JCCjr is just another protected prospect. ive said it before, at 10-0 and 20-0 the fighters ahould be made to fight another 10-0 and 20-0 fighter - men from the boys sort of thing

think Chavez Jr is fighting Wiley on the Cotto-Judah undercard.

I think he's shown a nice pro style in the last few fights (certainy better than when he was on Sky). Probably why I like him, after seing Khan not really sit down on his shots that much yet.

Only Mex action I heard of was Martin Castillo's comeback last night.

I expect Khan to dominate Limond, in respect of Limond's good moments being few and far between. I invisage a succession of Khan flurries forcing a timid ref into jumping in and stopping it without Limond being particularly hurt or taking many flush but being stopped on "accumulation".

Fighters now know for example that they only have to pin their man in the corner and wing away landing or not landing and Terry O'Connor for example will stop it

I will stick my neck out and go for Khan TKO8 Limond.

Final Fight wrote:Only Mex action I heard of was Martin Castillo's comeback last night.

Did Castillo win? Interesting to see Alexander Munoz upset Nobuo Nashiro in Japan recently. Castillo-Munoz 3 for the WBA title looks a likely one unless Castillo is moving up in weight.

steve689 wrote:

Final Fight wrote:Only Mex action I heard of was Martin Castillo's comeback last night.

Did Castillo win? Interesting to see Alexander Munoz upset Nobuo Nashiro in Japan recently. Castillo-Munoz 3 for the WBA title looks a likely one unless Castillo is moving up in weight.

yeah, 5 rd KO or something like that. I have Mijares and Montiel sharing the #1 spot. Montiel is such a rounded boxer but lacks the big win. Ppl should have seen Mijares coming. 2x wins over the Japanese Arce, Kastushige Kawashima, and then the domination of Arce...this kid is good.

With many of the best super flys being Mexicans or Central Americans, we'll see a lot of them fighting. Mijares, Montiel, Castillo, Munoz, Arce...Is Ozzie-Armenian Darchinyan still moving up to challenge Montiel? Not on the schedule anymore.

I reckon Munoz can beat Castillo this time. The 2nd fight could have been a draw.

Amir Khan and formula 1s Lewis Hamilton both have one thing in common - They are both young and both are rising stars in their respective sports - There are huge expectations for both young men and the media attention they are getting is enormous - At a very young age they are both rich and all this has to affect the way they think, and therefore conduct themselves in interviews - Khan has dumped being humble which is a shame and hopefully Hamilton wont be doing the same , I hope not - Such a lot of pressure on young sports men has to change likeable youngsters into young arrogant big heads - The money, fame and celebrity status just goes to their heads which is bound to happen.

I picked Mijares to beat Arce actually. Arce is a bully, a bit of a one dimensional puncher who beats people up with intimidation. After watching Mijares deal so convincingly with Kawashima and the Lopez win previously i new he had the style to negate Arce.

As you mention Darchinyan Final Fight i have never been very impressed with him. A good basic boxer with a bit of a dig beats him IMO Ok so he is a monstrous puncher granted but he struggled his arse off trying to get Victor Burgos out of there and Burgos was seriously faded. Darchinyan is so unorthodox i think a solid jab and a bit of movement would keep him off balance all night andmake him look pretty pedestrian i would bet.

steve689 wrote:I expect Khan to dominate Limond, in respect of Limond's good moments being few and far between. I invisage a succession of Khan flurries forcing a timid ref into jumping in and stopping it without Limond being particularly hurt or taking many flush but being stopped on "accumulation".

Fighters now know for example that they only have to pin their man in the corner and wing away landing or not landing and Terry O'Connor for example will stop it

I will stick my neck out and go for Khan TKO8 Limond.

You are absolutely spot on - That is the most likely scenario.

steve689 wrote:without Limond being particularly hurt or taking many flush but being stopped on "accumulation".

It's a sight I've become so accustomed to, I sometimes feel a bit uneasy now watching one-sided beatings of yesteryear. I think referees have developed a natural safety-first approach. Senna's death proved the end of exciting F1; have Watson and McClellan's injuries done the same for boxing?
And of course, how many times did Benn get off the canvas to surge back?

What about giving the ringside doctor a button to stop the fight, as ref backup to reassure him? If the button's activated, the bell sounds and the match ends. The ref has too much responsibility perhaps?
Although, medical training or not, it's obvious that getting repeatedly belted around the temples ain't good. I'm just tired of seeing a stoppage, then watching the unfortunate loser wander around on perfectly steady legs immediately after.

I don't condone letting a clearly inferior opponent take a hiding (Manfredo was heading that way, despite the premature end), but you must wait at least until a telling shot has landed. Not really boxing otherwise is it? And that is what the two knowingly sign up for.

(Sorry to derail the thread. Khan with an arm flurry I reckon. Quite early; say round three.)

Grilling Machine wrote:

steve689 wrote:without Limond being particularly hurt or taking many flush but being stopped on "accumulation".

It's a sight I've become so accustomed to, I sometimes feel a bit uneasy now watching one-sided beatings of yesteryear. I think referees have developed a natural safety-first approach. Senna's death proved the end of exciting F1; have Watson and McClellan's injuries done the same for boxing?
And of course, how many times did Benn get off the canvas to surge back?

What about giving the ringside doctor a button to stop the fight, as ref backup to reassure him? If the button's activated, the bell sounds and the match ends. The ref has too much responsibility perhaps?
Although, medical training or not, it's obvious that getting repeatedly belted around the temples ain't good. I'm just tired of seeing a stoppage, then watching the unfortunate loser wander around on perfectly steady legs immediately after.

I don't condone letting a clearly inferior opponent take a hiding (Manfredo was heading that way, despite the premature end), but you must wait at least until a telling shot has landed. Not really boxing otherwise is it? And that is what the two knowingly sign up for.

(Sorry to derail the thread. Khan with an arm flurry I reckon. Quite early; say round three.)

You're right about the 'volume' stoppages, and referees really do have to reasses when they stop a fight, because certain fighters are very good at conning referees these days.

That being said, I really think that the ringside button is a bad idea. The referee is clearly the best man to decide when to stop a fight. Apart from the boxers, he's in the best position to judge the force of the blows, and is probably the first to see when a fighter's eyes go. I really don't think anybody at ringside should have any influence over this, and it would be disasterous if they were. A button can only be in one place and that person isn't at the same level, is removed from the action and may even be blinded. Bad idea, I'm afraid.

Khan will hammer Limond, and to be fair its for a title over 12 rounds and against a credible opponent. However its a fight where Amir is totally expected to win and against another non-puncher. To avoid criticism after this fight Khan needs to fight somebody with at least a half decent decent punch. The notion that Warren is terrified of putting Khan in with a puncher clearly holds some weight.

i had a dream about this fight last night.

khan got his arse kicked.

he was knocked down 4 times and beaten on pts.

i ended up celebrating with limond as he walks out of the ring.

wicked dream.