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Rate Aussie domestic fighters on entertainment value.
Posted: 11 Jun 2007, 06:41
by ABC
I'm interested as to who you guys/girls out there rate as Australia's most entertaing fighters. I'm talking about the domestic fighters not Darchinyan, Mundine, Green, Briggs etc. More the guys your watching on Fenech & Jamie Myer fight nights or at your local fight nights.
Off the top of my head here is my top 10. (remember entertaining not the best or with the most ability)
1) Daniel Lovett - Tough
2) Johnny Cotterill - Worker
3) Dale Westerman - Crafty
4) William Kickett - Slick
5) Ryan Waters - Raw
6) Adam Wills - Mad
7) Matt Paulley - 50/50
8) Fred Mundraby - Fast
9) Ahmed Elomar - Lucky
10) Les Sherrington - Honest
That off the top of my head I may change once some more names come up. Will be Interested to hear comments.
Posted: 11 Jun 2007, 09:45
by jezzamundo
Robbie Bryant. If you saw his win over Tyronne Tongia you would definitely agree. He has a high punch output, good chin, decent power (he put Tongia down), and punches well to the body and head. He is 3-0-0 (1ko) at the moment, but is yet to fight out of WA.
Posted: 12 Jun 2007, 06:57
by ABC
Yet to see Robbie Bryant will keep an eye out for him.
I love watching good body punchers. Must say a stoppage from a body punch is the most satisfying way to win a fight (for me that is).
Posted: 17 Jun 2007, 06:00
by walford
1) Lenny Zappavigna
2) Bowie Tupou
3) Emmett Gazzard
4) Pradeep Singh
5) William Kickett
6) Dean Byrne
7) Robbie Bryant
8) Allan Luxford
9) Solomon Haumono
10) Roger Izonretti
I don't know what the difference is between being the most entertaining and being the best, for me I'm entertained by talent
Posted: 17 Jun 2007, 07:30
by ABC
Entertaining is just that. The fighter doesn't necessarily have to be the best or even talented to be entertaining. Guys like Ryan Waters, Adam Wills & Ahmed Elomar are not the best fighters in their weight class and I wouldn't say that they are great talents but they always seems to be in entertaining fights. Talent is entertaining when match evenly. I must say I don't find it entertaining to watch guys like Tupou, Luxford & Haumono fight guys that are quite obviously no chance of winning. I'm sure they would be entertaining if they stepped up their opposition.
Posted: 18 Jun 2007, 07:33
by walford
ABC wrote:Entertaining is just that. The fighter doesn't necessarily have to be the best or even talented to be entertaining. Guys like Ryan Waters, Adam Wills & Ahmed Elomar are not the best fighters in their weight class and I wouldn't say that they are great talents but they always seems to be in entertaining fights. Talent is entertaining when match evenly. I must say I don't find it entertaining to watch guys like Tupou, Luxford & Haumono fight guys that are quite obviously no chance of winning. I'm sure they would be entertaining if they stepped up their opposition.
I understand your comments in regards to Solo and Bowie, but would say it is early days in there careers and Bowie in particular has no need to rush into stiff opposition, but would completly disagree that Luxford has fought overmatched opponents, there may be a few on his record, but not sure who you're refering to.
Dulog's record might not look great, but he pushed Mo Elomar and Davey Brown and stopped Charlie Vella.
Castanares had beaten some credible opposition in the likes of Marks, Mosquera, and Nonoy Gonzalez
Quaye went 11 rounds with Gairy St.Clair
I would love to see him try and get a re-match with one of the blokes that has beaten him, but I don't think he has fought blokes that should have been overmatched, it might appear that way, but with Al you never know how good he's going to be, some nights he's fantastic and other nights he looks C grade.
Posted: 20 Jun 2007, 09:58
by ABC
I agree Bowie is in the early days and needs to come along slow but theres no way I could rate him as an entertaining fighter based on his fights to date.
Solo has been out of the game for a while & needed some tune up fights to come back but I hope we see him step up real soon. Can remember of his fights being real exciting (pretty predictable results).
As for Luxford I can only rate 4 or 5 of his previous opponents & 3 of them beat him. The only rematch that he should be interested in would be the Mick Shaw loss. Cotterill mad him look like a cave man & would do the same again & Ganoy put him to sleep. I was at the Quaye fight & the guy was lucky to be 5 foot 2 & must have had lead jocks on to make lightweight (credit to him for going 11 with St Clair at Feather). Dulog's another featherweight & other have started out as flyweights. I want to like the guy but his team don't give you much choice the way they match him.
Posted: 20 Jun 2007, 19:17
by walford
ABC wrote:I agree Bowie is in the early days and needs to come along slow but theres no way I could rate him as an entertaining fighter based on his fights to date.
Solo has been out of the game for a while & needed some tune up fights to come back but I hope we see him step up real soon. Can remember of his fights being real exciting (pretty predictable results).
As for Luxford I can only rate 4 or 5 of his previous opponents & 3 of them beat him. The only rematch that he should be interested in would be the Mick Shaw loss. Cotterill mad him look like a cave man & would do the same again & Ganoy put him to sleep. I was at the Quaye fight & the guy was lucky to be 5 foot 2 & must have had lead jocks on to make lightweight (credit to him for going 11 with St Clair at Feather). Dulog's another featherweight & other have started out as flyweights. I want to like the guy but his team don't give you much choice the way they match him.
Ganoy stopped him but Al could reverse that result and the Cotterill fight was 4 years ago and Al was awful that night. He's a better fighter than that.
I'm excited by any big aussie heavyweight with a bit of talent as is the case with Bowie. I'm a sucker for the big guys. Was a big fan of Roger Izonretti early in his career and like Shane Cameron even though he's a kiwi.
Re: Rate Aussie domestic fighters on entertainment value.
Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 13:50
by no one supporter
ABC wrote:I'm interested as to who you guys/girls out there rate as Australia's most entertaing fighters. I'm talking about the domestic fighters not Darchinyan, Mundine, Green, Briggs etc. More the guys your watching on Fenech & Jamie Myer fight nights or at your local fight nights.
Off the top of my head here is my top 10. (remember entertaining not the best or with the most ability)
1) Daniel Lovett - Tough
2) Johnny Cotterill - Worker
3) Dale Westerman - Crafty
4) William Kickett - Slick
5) Ryan Waters - Raw
6) Adam Wills - Mad
7) Matt Paulley - 50/50
8) Fred Mundraby - Fast
9) Ahmed Elomar - Lucky
10) Les Sherrington - Honest
That off the top of my head I may change once some more names come up. Will be Interested to hear comments.
if you want an entertaiment fighter look at robbie medley he wins every fight even if he has to go the distance. he will laugh in there face if he gets tagged than wear them down to k.o or t.k.o. i look forward to his fight in oct 12
Posted: 29 Aug 2007, 06:49
by Sweet P
Id say that Alan Luxford is the most entertaining, I love the way he starts off trying to box and as soon as he gets hit he turns feral and throws bombs.
Me and all my mates have a geuss before the fight how long it will take before he starts throwing bombs and its normally under a minute or two.