Was tyson's power overrated?.
Posted: 13 Jun 2007, 21:30
A lot of his opponents said that other fighters hit them harder.
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Was tyson's power overrated?.
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Posted: 13 Jun 2007, 21:38
No, his hand speed and accuracy accompanied with his strength equaled a ton of power.
Re: Was tyson's power overrated?.
Posted: 13 Jun 2007, 21:58
A lot of his opponents are liersmilky skin wrote:A lot of his opponents said that other fighters hit them harder.
Posted: 13 Jun 2007, 23:07
Well saidsockdolager wrote:No, his hand speed and accuracy accompanied with his strength equaled a ton of power.
Posted: 13 Jun 2007, 23:59
Everything about Tyson was over rated
Posted: 14 Jun 2007, 00:24
Just because a handful of guys have harder one punch power doesn;t make his power over rated. Come on those KO's that we've all seen were spectacular. Not usually one punch, but BAM BAM BAM.... fights over.
Posted: 14 Jun 2007, 00:33
Tyson was physically strong, yes, but in his prime before leaving Kevin Rooney and Bill Cayton and hooking up with Robin Givens and Don King...
Tyson's greatest assets were his:
-Terrific defense (head movement, bobbing and weaving), his sparring with welterweights and middleweights with him not allowed to hit back, but to block, made him all but untouchable as a HW.
-Amazing hand speed and pinpoint accuracy
combine that with his ferocity...he was one helluva hoss to handle.
But was he over-rated? Well, had it been anyone else who defeated Bonecrusher Smith, Tony Tubbs, an old Larry Holmes, Trevor Berbick, Pinklon Thomas (a drug addict), Tyrell Biggs (another substance abuser who was moved too soon), Frank Bruno and Carl The Truth Williams...
I dont think anyone would have really cared, it was just the way Tyson won his bouts, that made him so popular---but his opponents were 'average' at best.
Tyson's greatest assets were his:
-Terrific defense (head movement, bobbing and weaving), his sparring with welterweights and middleweights with him not allowed to hit back, but to block, made him all but untouchable as a HW.
-Amazing hand speed and pinpoint accuracy
combine that with his ferocity...he was one helluva hoss to handle.
But was he over-rated? Well, had it been anyone else who defeated Bonecrusher Smith, Tony Tubbs, an old Larry Holmes, Trevor Berbick, Pinklon Thomas (a drug addict), Tyrell Biggs (another substance abuser who was moved too soon), Frank Bruno and Carl The Truth Williams...
I dont think anyone would have really cared, it was just the way Tyson won his bouts, that made him so popular---but his opponents were 'average' at best.
Posted: 14 Jun 2007, 01:19
So was his power overrated or not in your opinion? I think that if 5 or 10 other guys (or even 20 guys) hit harder than Tyson it still doesn;t mean that his power was overrated. He still had plenty of pop and could get three shots in before the guy knew what was happening. Ali had great speed but couldn't get guys out of there like Tyson so to say that he stopped fighters mostly with speed is not entirely true. You have to have world class power to get the knockouts that he did.Decagon wrote:A lot of guys had more pure power than Tyson. If he hadn't been able to hit fighters right on the button when they weren't expecting it, he wouldn't have gotten half as many knockouts.Krustacean wrote:Just because a handful of guys have harder one punch power doesn;t make his power over rated. Come on those KO's that we've all seen were spectacular. Not usually one punch, but BAM BAM BAM.... fights over.
Posted: 14 Jun 2007, 02:03
Haglerfan wrote:Everything about Tyson was over rated
Posted: 14 Jun 2007, 10:51
i forget where, but iread an interview of larry holmes(who was old when tyson beat him) and holmes said that shavers hit harder than tyson. he also said norton hit harder than holyfield.
Posted: 14 Jun 2007, 11:01
imo no. his power was not over rated. he was a small HW, got to put that into consideration.
Posted: 14 Jun 2007, 11:04
el_destrampado wrote:i forget where, but iread an interview of larry holmes(who was old when tyson beat him) and holmes said that shavers hit harder than tyson. he also said norton hit harder than holyfield.
Holmes also said that Tyson was a sharper, more accurate puncher, that he could put together a combo & every shot would all be powerful & that he was awkward, hard to hit etc.
Granted, Tyson may not have had the power that Shavers had, but Tyson had the unique combination of speed & power, more-so than any other HW I've ever seen.
Posted: 14 Jun 2007, 11:42
no it wasnt...He was and will always be the meanest offsensive HW ever to live...Foreman might have had more crude strenght...but Tyson's power was also coming from his astonishing handspeed combined to his short arms.
Posted: 14 Jun 2007, 11:52
along with a couple dozen no hopers. first one who wasn't afraid to fight back beat him
Posted: 14 Jun 2007, 12:19
[quote="Raff The Frenchman"]no it wasnt...He was and will always be the meanest offsensive HW ever to live...Foreman might have had more crude strenght...but Tyson's power was also coming from his astonishing handspeed combined to his short arms.[/quote
I agree, speed is also power and tyson had speed along with combinations not seen in the heavyweight division. The only other heavyweight boxer I've seen in the last thirty years with that kind of hand speed and combinations is this new kid on the block Povetkin. This former Gold Medalist, may have faster hands than Tyson. Not quite the power of Tyson, but hits in 5 and 6 punch combo's . He's in tough on the 30th with Donald. We'll see if he pass's this test in only his 13th fight.
I agree, speed is also power and tyson had speed along with combinations not seen in the heavyweight division. The only other heavyweight boxer I've seen in the last thirty years with that kind of hand speed and combinations is this new kid on the block Povetkin. This former Gold Medalist, may have faster hands than Tyson. Not quite the power of Tyson, but hits in 5 and 6 punch combo's . He's in tough on the 30th with Donald. We'll see if he pass's this test in only his 13th fight.