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Olusegun v Khan
Posted: 16 Jun 2007, 08:02
by Top Dog
Man, I would love to see Olusegun go in with Khan, he would hammer the wee pretender. Before someone comes on and says "but Khan is only a lightweight" my answer to that is, now he knows what it feels like to fight someone heavier
Olusegun aint world class but he does have some moves, he would slaughter Khany The Fanny. Aint going to happen of course, cause Frank would have a heart attack at the thought.
Posted: 16 Jun 2007, 08:23
by Autobarn
They both can go on to be world class. Which is why tey won't ever fight.
Posted: 18 Jun 2007, 11:31
by WildWaylon
Khan isnt ready for fighting people who can stop their opponents - Never even entered my head this match up - No way would it happen Khan is being protected - Dont see him in a risky fight for quite a while yet.
Posted: 19 Jun 2007, 09:21
by boxingchat
Let's not get carried away with Olusegun fellas. He beat ON POINTS Gary Reid that's all for a vacant Commonwealth title. Reid was soundly beaten by Nigel Wright remember so it's hardly an earth shattering display is it?
Khan would beat him IMO and Khan would play with and humiliate Reid.
I think Sky's 'commentary' is starting to get to you lot.
Adam Smith can certainly polish a turd.
Posted: 19 Jun 2007, 09:35
by Coco
boxingchat wrote:Let's not get carried away with Olusegun fellas. He beat ON POINTS Gary Reid that's all for a vacant Commonwealth title. Reid was soundly beaten by Nigel Wright remember so it's hardly an earth shattering display is it?
Khan would beat him IMO and Khan would play with and humiliate Reid.
I think Sky's 'commentary' is starting to get to you lot.
Adam Smith can certainly polish a turd.
I agree that Adam Smith's knowledge of boxing is very limited.
So you are saying that SN would be keen to match Khan v Reid or Olusegun?
I think they would both be good fights for Amir's development.
Posted: 19 Jun 2007, 09:40
by TerribleTerry
boxingchat wrote:Let's not get carried away with Olusegun fellas. He beat ON POINTS Gary Reid that's all for a vacant Commonwealth title. Reid was soundly beaten by Nigel Wright remember so it's hardly an earth shattering display is it?
Khan would beat him IMO and Khan would play with and humiliate Reid.
Dean Powell would have a function if he heard you were putting these sorts of fights forward for the SN golden goose!
The SN match making thus far does not reflect your confident swager.
Olusegun would be far too seasoned for Khan at this stage - can you not see that??
Posted: 19 Jun 2007, 10:21
by jamesmcdonnell
Yes, whilst Reid is hardly Oscar DeLaHoya, the fact that he managed to give Olesogun a few problems, shouldn't be overstated.
Admittedly, I think Olegsogun looked a bit ordinary at times, but I don't see Khan beating him at this stage, he'd have a hard time getting near him I think, Olesogun is far too experienced for Khan, and has beaten far better opponents than Khan has faced thus far.
Only time will tell where the two of them will end up, but right now Khan has a lot to learn, and he ain't going to learn until he steps up.
I'm reckon Khan could beat Reid, but I'm sure he would get caught a few times along the way. Khan however, would probably put in a more focussed and consistent performance than Olesogun who spend far too much time pratting around, when had he stuck his foot on the gas, and kept it there, could probably have stopped Reid.
Posted: 19 Jun 2007, 10:45
by TerribleTerry
Double post
Posted: 19 Jun 2007, 10:56
by fried bread
Olusegun has rightly won big acclaim after beating up Numbembe and Pryce. We'll be lucky if Khan takes on that level in the next year and a half.
The response to Olusegun last Sat has been mature with a good sense of perspective. i.e. he can be brilliant but he's an egotist and has turned the ppl off who lauded him.
Nothing wrong with Adam Smith. He can call a decent fight. B/C you have no objections to Duke and John Rawling glossing over some of the lesser ITV shows. Smith didn't try and tell us last Fri was sensational - at all. I recall him using the words "weird", "temperamental", and others to that effect.
Posted: 19 Jun 2007, 11:18
by stujones
Seriously though FB, how much worse is Limmond to Pryce and Nuumbembe P4P. Nuumbembe SCRAPED past Anderson (a tad controvesial) and Pryce has been exposed at British title level in the past, both at Light Middle and Welter.
I think talk of Olusugun vs Khan is a little silly for the moment. Khan is a big Lightweight, but Olusugun is a big Light Welter.
Posted: 19 Jun 2007, 12:22
by m1kee50
TerribleTerry wrote:boxingchat wrote:Let's not get carried away with Olusegun fellas. He beat ON POINTS Gary Reid that's all for a vacant Commonwealth title. Reid was soundly beaten by Nigel Wright remember so it's hardly an earth shattering display is it?
Khan would beat him IMO and Khan would play with and humiliate Reid.
Dean Powell would have a function if he heard you were putting these sorts of fights forward for the SN golden goose!
The SN match making thus far does not reflect your confident swager.
Olusegun would be far too seasoned for Khan at this stage - can you not see that??
As someone said a month or so ago - think it was FW might have been Colin Hart.... Khan might now beat Thaxton, or Earl, or whomever but it would be a damaging fight....
Posted: 19 Jun 2007, 16:04
by jamesmcdonnell
Yes, I guess Khan would have a chance against those guys, but it's a big risk, I wouldn't put him in with Thaxon escpecially at this stage of his career, if the fight went past 6, you'd have to favour Thaxton to bash him up.
Posted: 19 Jun 2007, 17:11
by stujones
Gary Reid at Lightweight would be a tough proposition for Khan (or just about any Lightweight in the UK). He's going to be as strong as an Ox at 9.9.
Posted: 19 Jun 2007, 17:20
by Old bones Ian
stujones wrote:Seriously though FB, how much worse is Limmond to Pryce and Nuumbembe P4P. Nuumbembe SCRAPED past Anderson (a tad controvesial) and Pryce has been exposed at British title level in the past, both at Light Middle and Welter.
I think talk of Olusugun vs Khan is a little silly for the moment. Khan is a big Lightweight, but Olusugun is a big Light Welter.
I agree there, this matchup wouldn't do Khan any favours at mo.
He's still a lightweight, also i've no problem with the Limmond fight next for Khan
Posted: 19 Jun 2007, 17:30
by leforge
who is boxing chat?
Posted: 19 Jun 2007, 17:55
by Achybreaky
leforge wrote:who is boxing chat?
Fwanks personal Tea/'insert biccy of choice' engineer.
Posted: 20 Jun 2007, 07:35
by Amsterdam
Khan won't be world class, he's a hype job joke.
Posted: 20 Jun 2007, 07:42
by sweetscience
Amsterdam wrote:Khan won't be world class, he's a hype job joke.
i wish someone could hype me up an olympic silver medal
Posted: 20 Jun 2007, 09:29
by TerribleTerry
sweetscience wrote:Amsterdam wrote:Khan won't be world class, he's a hype job joke.
i wish someone could hype me up an olympic silver medal
I know what you are saying but Ricardo Williams was an Olympic Silver medal bust.
Cant see Khan getting involved with selling coke though somehow!
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Posted: 20 Jun 2007, 13:36
by Top Dog
sweetscience wrote:Amsterdam wrote:Khan won't be world class, he's a hype job joke.
i wish someone could hype me up an olympic silver medal
Mate, two different things all together. Big padded headgear, big soft gloves, that's why Khan wont be any big shakes in the pro game, total hype pish. The amateur game is more like a game of tag, they dont really score body shots anymore, at least not on the shows I've seen recently. Olusgen, Reid, Muttley, Morrison et al would all murder the kid. If he was that good he'd be in against these guys already
Posted: 20 Jun 2007, 14:04
by sweetscience
Top Dog wrote:sweetscience wrote:Amsterdam wrote:Khan won't be world class, he's a hype job joke.
i wish someone could hype me up an olympic silver medal
Mate, two different things all together. Big padded headgear, big soft gloves, that's why Khan wont be any big shakes in the pro game, total hype pish. The amateur game is more like a game of tag, they dont really score body shots anymore, at least not on the shows I've seen recently. Olusgen, Reid, Muttley, Morrison et al would all murder the kid. If he was that good he'd be in against these guys already
all those mentioned arnt in his weight division
and am/pro boxing is different, but class counts, and he has it
and dont give me that 'what about audley?' crap, Khan is different, he will be world class, and if not, british boxing is fucked cause we aint got anyone else anywhere near his talent (maybe Haye)
Khan has dusted everyone in his fights, is running rings round far more experienced pro's in the gym, so i dont see any reason why people would think he wont make it
being matched poorly doent count anymore, he is fighitn for the commonweath title in his 12/13th fight
Posted: 20 Jun 2007, 15:47
by twenty six
Look I've no axe to grind with anyone, and as far as I'm concerned every UK Promotor has their good points, and their bad points.
This question is sincere - would your treatment of Khan be different if he was dealing with a different Promotional outlet, because I believe that to be a resounding yes.
Give the kid a break.
He's fighting for a title after a dozen fights, and can only challenge the belt holder.
Judge him when he steps up in class - which will only be when Oliver amongst others thinks he's ready.
As has already been pointed out, there is a vast difference between am and pro and adjustment needs time.
Or would you prefer to see his career ruined before it's started ?
Posted: 20 Jun 2007, 15:49
by twenty six
Take a look at Ricky Hatton's first dozen or so opponents.
Didn't do him any harm, did it ?
Posted: 20 Jun 2007, 16:12
by Old bones Ian
I love the typical british outlook on out top prospects, Khan won a silver medal as an 18 YEAR OLD for f*cks sake. He has gone on to beat everyone put in front of him so far. Next up for him is an experienced pro who is still looking to win.
Lay off Khan , he's done more for boxing in this country than most other boxers ever have.
But most of you lot can't wait to see him fail
Posted: 20 Jun 2007, 16:23
by twenty six
Old bones - couldn't agree more.
