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Heavyweights: Buster Douglas vs Buster Mathis
Posted: 18 Jun 2007, 08:18
by elmersalsa
This would be the "Battle of the Busters"...Who wins? I pick the Douglas that beat Tyson that night.
Posted: 18 Jun 2007, 08:20
by MEISINGER
i have to agree the douglas that beat tyson that night would of gave anyone fits.
imagine if he could of been that focused his entire career.
Posted: 18 Jun 2007, 09:32
by dempseyfire
Mathis
I pick the guy who showed he could be pretty damn good on several nights and not just one.
Posted: 18 Jun 2007, 09:44
by Taylor
Mathis.
Posted: 18 Jun 2007, 10:51
by DaveV17
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Posted: 18 Jun 2007, 10:55
by The Great John L
DaveV17 wrote:I would take Douglas. Mathis never impressed me. His biggest win was over George Chuvalo who had lost 14 times when Mathis beat him. The Douglas who beat hot prospect Mike Williams, former champion Trevor Berbeck, futture champion Oliver McCall, and Mike Tyson during a four fight stretch was very impressive.
Agreed. I'd say a peak well prepared Douglas was better than Mathis, and generally under-rated.
Posted: 18 Jun 2007, 14:09
by KOJOE90
The Douglas that beat Tyson beats Mathis.
Anything less, Mathis outboxes and out lasts Douglas.
Posted: 18 Jun 2007, 14:27
by dempseyfire
DaveV17 wrote:I would take Douglas. Mathis never impressed me. His biggest win was over George Chuvalo who had lost 14 times when Mathis beat him. The Douglas who beat hot prospect Mike Williams, former champion Trevor Berbeck, futture champion Oliver McCall, and Mike Tyson during a four fight stretch was very impressive.
You are going to downgrade his win over Chuvalo and then pump up Buster's win over "hot prospect" Mike Williams? . . . .
Talk about bias . . . .
Posted: 18 Jun 2007, 16:10
by DaveV17
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Posted: 18 Jun 2007, 21:50
by dempseyfire
Decagon wrote:The "Douglas that beat Tyson" is so overrated. All he really had was a good jab and a good gameplan for that one particular fight. Also, some people here are underrating Chuvalo. There's no controversy about the Quarry fight. Chuvalo knocked him down, and Quarry didn't make the count. It's not like Zach Clayton was counting in Portuguese. If you want to talk about controversy, look at Chuvalo's fight with Ellis.
This fight could go either way, even if Douglas showed up as motivated as he was against Tyson. I'd probably lean towards Douglas if he hadn't had so many shitty performances throughout his career.
He also was fighting a short, squat pressure fighter and employing the perfect fight plan to beat that style.
Tyson was a LOT different than the 6'3 dancing, shifty Mathis. Douglas's big wins (Berbick, McCall, Tyson) . . . all shorter pressure fighters.
Posted: 19 Jun 2007, 14:20
by Flump
I think this would come down to who runs out of gas first. If I had to pick a winner then I would give the edge to Douglas, he had more power and arguably a better chin.
Posted: 19 Jun 2007, 23:05
by Jaclem
...my money's on buster. sd...
Posted: 21 Jun 2007, 20:54
by BoxBuzz
jaclem is nostradamus...how does he do it? He's right again!
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