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British Top 30 P4P July 2007

Posted: 01 Jul 2007, 19:37
by Horse
1. (1.) Ricky Hatton
2. (2.) Joe Calzaghe
3. (3.) Clinton Woods
4. (4.) Junior Witter
5. (5.) Scott Harrison
6. (6.) Alex Arthur
7. (7.) David Haye
8. (8.) Howard Eastman
9. (9.) Enzo Maccarinelli
10. (10.) Carl Froch

11. (11.) Nicky Cook
12. (12.) Jamie Moore
13. (13.) Damaen Kelly
14. (14.) Wayne McCullough
15. (15.) Ted Bami
16. (16.) Michael Hunter
17. (17.) Matt Skelton
18. (18.) Kevin Anderson
19. (19.) Esham Pickering
20. (20.) Brian Magee

21. (21.) Robin Reid
22. (22.) Carl Johanneson
23. (23.) Graham Earl
24. (24.) Michael Sprott
25. (25.) Danny Williams
26. (26.) Jonathan Thaxton
27. (27.) Michael Jennings
28. (NE.) Colin Lynes
29. (28.) Tony Oakey
30. (29.) Ricky Burns

Out - (30.) Barry Morrison

Posted: 01 Jul 2007, 19:42
by Wales
Good list, although on current form i reckon Eastman is too high - but the p4p lists are always subjective.

Posted: 02 Jul 2007, 00:41
by HairyBoxe24
Yeah Eastmen is the main one that sticks out, also i think Reid is to high, not bad though.

Posted: 02 Jul 2007, 05:11
by Twinkle Toes
Not a bad list - Personally I would have Harrison above Witter (for the moment anyway)

Eastman, Bami, Pickering and Reid all look a little high to me where as Johanneson, Jennings and Thaxton should be a bit higher.

In my view anyway :)

Posted: 02 Jul 2007, 06:41
by stujones
Brian Magee is a little high IMO.

Think Dean Francis might be worthy of a placing.

Posted: 02 Jul 2007, 08:19
by leforge
Scot Harrison should not be in it. Damen Kelly retired, Mccullough not fought for ages. Moore should be top 10. Has Michael Hunter ahead of Carl johnasoon?

Posted: 02 Jul 2007, 09:46
by 101boxing
scott harrisson!!!??? wtf? he might feature in her majesty's inmates top 10 in the near future.

johannsen surely should be higher, and mccullogh should be outed for selling out and agreeing to be the new face of UFC. turncoat

Posted: 02 Jul 2007, 18:32
by Horse
Wales wrote:Good list, although on current form i reckon Eastman is too high - but the p4p lists are always subjective.
Yep, I have had a lot of stick for my placing of Eastman.
HairyBoxe24 wrote:Yeah Eastmen is the main one that sticks out, also i think Reid is to high, not bad though.
How high should Eastman and Reid be placed?

Posted: 03 Jul 2007, 00:06
by HairyBoxe24
Horse wrote:
Wales wrote:Good list, although on current form i reckon Eastman is too high - but the p4p lists are always subjective.
Yep, I have had a lot of stick for my placing of Eastman.
HairyBoxe24 wrote:Yeah Eastmen is the main one that sticks out, also i think Reid is to high, not bad though.
How high should Eastman and Reid be placed?
Doudt Reid would even be in my top 30, Eastmen would be somewhere around 15-20.

Posted: 03 Jul 2007, 04:17
by hitman_hatton1
Twinkle Toes wrote:Not a bad list - Personally I would have Harrison above Witter (for the moment anyway)
:-? :lol:

Posted: 03 Jul 2007, 04:24
by Captain Hook
Harrison should be out of the list, no way is he higher than Witter, Moore, or even Michael Sprott :)

Posted: 03 Jul 2007, 11:18
by Max Molyneux
He put Hatton above Calzaghe when Hatton beat Urango too! :o

Kelly's retired too.

Posted: 03 Jul 2007, 16:27
by Horse
Twinkle Toes wrote:Not a bad list - Personally I would have Harrison above Witter (for the moment anyway)
Since Harrison's last fight, Witter has beaten Corley for the WBC title and beaten Morua as a first defence. So, I can kind of see your point (even if you are joking) as Corley and Morua are not that good. But, Witter did win the WBC title and he has defended it, and coupled with Harrison's inactivity, I feel that Witter deserves to be ranked ahead of Harrison.
Twinkle Toes wrote:Eastman, Bami, Pickering and Reid all look a little high to me
Bami is the European champion which is a good achievement, so he can't really be much lower in the rankings. Pickering was the European champion recently, and has since comeback and won the British title, so he shouldn't be much lower either. Reid probably should be lower, but he was operating in World class not so long ago, and not many below him have.
Twinkle Toes wrote:where as Johanneson, Jennings and Thaxton should be a bit higher.
I have not been as impressed with Johanneson as some others have, but if he wins the European title this Month, then he should climb quite a few places. Jennings is the WBU champion, I think he is where he belongs for now. Thaxton will climb as he continues to pick up wins.

Posted: 03 Jul 2007, 18:01
by m1kee50
MCullough is a non mover again, lol.... when is the wedding?

Posted: 03 Jul 2007, 20:04
by Horse
stujones wrote:Brian Magee is a little high IMO.
Well it is Magee vs Oakey next Month, so I will have a chance to move him then, although if he wins he is likely to climb a few places.
stujones wrote:Think Dean Francis might be worthy of a placing.
He needs to up his competition level before he claims a place in my opinion.

Posted: 04 Jul 2007, 09:17
by Horse
leforge wrote:Scot Harrison should not be in it. Damen Kelly retired, Mccullough not fought for ages.
I don't want to take any of them off if I am going to have to put them back on again, so I am in no rush to take them off my list.
leforge wrote:Moore should be top 10. Has Michael Hunter ahead of Carl johnasoon?
Moore has yet to prove he is above domestic class in my opinion. Hunter is a former undefeated European, British and Commonwealth champion and Lonsdale belt holder and has fought for a World title. Johanneson is a British champion with two defences, that is why Hunter is above Johanneson.

Posted: 04 Jul 2007, 11:33
by stujones
Horse wrote:
stujones wrote:Brian Magee is a little high IMO.
Well it is Magee vs Oakey next Month, so I will have a chance to move him then, although if he wins he is likely to climb a few places.
stujones wrote:Think Dean Francis might be worthy of a placing.
He needs to up his competition level before he claims a place in my opinion.
I personally think given the McKenzie beat Haymer and Haymer beat Oakey - that McKenzie should be considered at least on a par with the likes of Steve Spartacus (which is why you've put Oakey in your list I assume). I wasn't meaning a top ten consideration - but lower reaches of the top 30.

Cannot see what Magee has done to really be above - Reid, Johannson, Lynes etc.

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2007

Posted: 04 Jul 2007, 11:43
by m1kee50
Horse wrote:1. (1.) Ricky Hatton
2. (2.) Joe Calzaghe
3. (3.) Clinton Woods
4. (4.) Junior Witter
5. (5.) Scott Harrison
6. (6.) Alex Arthur
7. (7.) David Haye
8. (8.) Howard Eastman
9. (9.) Enzo Maccarinelli
10. (10.) Carl Froch

11. (11.) Nicky Cook
12. (12.) Jamie Moore
13. (13.) Damaen Kelly
14. (14.) Wayne McCullough
15. (15.) Ted Bami
16. (16.) Michael Hunter
17. (17.) Matt Skelton
18. (18.) Kevin Anderson
19. (19.) Esham Pickering
20. (20.) Brian Magee

21. (21.) Robin Reid
22. (22.) Carl Johanneson
23. (23.) Graham Earl
24. (24.) Michael Sprott
25. (25.) Danny Williams
26. (26.) Jonathan Thaxton
27. (27.) Michael Jennings
28. (NE.) Colin Lynes
29. (28.) Tony Oakey
30. (29.) Ricky Burns

Out - (30.) Barry Morrison
IMO...

HAYE better than Harrison and Arthur, he should go 5th

Swap Enzo and Froch...

Wayne McCullough should not be on the list IMO, but I know you are a BIG fan...

Johannseon to 18th, especially if he wins next fight

Lynes should have gone in at 27, over jennings

Thaxton over Earl, but below Danny Williams IMO.... Earl got smashed last time out...

Sprott should be higher than Skelton IMO

Posted: 04 Jul 2007, 13:10
by Horse
101boxing wrote:scott harrisson!!!??? wtf? he might feature in her majesty's inmates top 10 in the near future.

johannsen surely should be higher, and mccullogh should be outed for selling out and agreeing to be the new face of UFC. turncoat
Why should the rise of UFC harm boxing?

Posted: 04 Jul 2007, 15:31
by whiskey
Trinkets aside, if this is pound for pound i would have Froch higher as he is unbeaten and is WBC #1 and WBO#2 on the world rankings.

Eastman has slipped into the teen's i feel and i would also have Dean Francis in there somewhere agreed.

Posted: 04 Jul 2007, 17:25
by Horse
Captain Hook wrote:Harrison should be out of the list, no way is he higher than Witter, Moore, or even Michael Sprott :)
Harrison is a two time WBO champion, Moore and Sprott are going to have to win at a higher level if they want to overtake Harrison in the near future.

Posted: 04 Jul 2007, 20:53
by Horse
[quote=""Twisted Transistor""]He put Hatton above Calzaghe when Hatton beat Urango too! :o[/quote]
Actually, I put Hatton above Calzaghe when Hatton beat Collazo. :o

[quote=""Twisted Transistor""]Kelly's retired too.[/quote]
:TU:

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2007

Posted: 06 Jul 2007, 00:26
by Horse
~ MIKEE ~ wrote:MCullough is a non mover again, lol.... when is the wedding?
No set date.
~ MIKEE ~ wrote:HAYE better than Harrison and Arthur, he should go 5th
Haye has been struggling with European class opposition, so I have question marks over his true class, but if he beats Mormeck then clearly I have no choice but to put him above those two.
~ MIKEE ~ wrote:Swap Enzo and Froch...
If Enzo losses to Braithwaite then your request shall be granted.
~ MIKEE ~ wrote:Wayne McCullough should not be on the list IMO, but I know you are a BIG fan...
Hasn't Wayne been talking about a fight with Dunne? I don't want to take him off just before he has a fight arranged.
~ MIKEE ~ wrote:Johannseon to 18th, especially if he wins next fight
If he wins his next fight then he will be placed around that area.
~ MIKEE ~ wrote:Lynes should have gone in at 27, over jennings
Lynes trouble in the last round against Morrison made me decide to put him below Jennings. I do not feel strongly either way.
~ MIKEE ~ wrote:Thaxton over Earl, but below Danny Williams IMO.... Earl got smashed last time out...
I don't think Earl got smashed last time out, I think he may have won if the fight had gone on. As for Thaxton, I feel he has to establish himself a little more before he flies up the rankings.
~ MIKEE ~ wrote:Sprott should be higher than Skelton IMO
Really? They fight this Month so maybe Sprott will be higher in next Month's list.