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Both Joe Frazier and David Tua were both famous for their left hooks and with good reason, they both won many a fight with that brutal weapon.

Now I am not talking about the fighters as a whole package in this thread just their LEFT HOOK. in isolation (well as much as you can).

Who had the better left hook between these two? Fraziers was faster, more accurate and had more 'snap' but many a good judge has stated that Tua had more brute force in his?

What do you think? With one single shot did Tua hit with more power? Even if it lacked the speed and accuracy of Fraziers?

Any thoughts fight fans?

Not exactly sure what you are asking, but here goes.

I think Tua probably hit a little harder, but Frazier had a much better and more effective left hook.

Tua's left hook was much-much harder than the best left hook Joe Frazier ever threw.

Senya13 wrote:Tua's left hook was much-much harder than the best left hook Joe Frazier ever threw.

"much-much" harder. hmmmm

Fraziers Hook helped him become a champion in the best Era of HW's.. Tua's didn't even get him a belt...

What's with the Tua fest here? Did he announce his retirement? I may have missed it. I only ask because I don't recall seeing his name mentioned in BOTP before and now he's on two threads.

I agree with John L and KO Joe. Tua had more brute force but Frazier's was the better punch overall.

BoxBuzz wrote:What's with the Tua fest here? Did he announce his retirement? I may have missed it. I only ask because I don't recall seeing his name mentioned in BOTP before and now he's on two threads.

It's all your fault mate, your folowing quote got me thinking.

BoxBuzz wrote:Well you would have to sum up Kenny Norton as a John Ruiz peer. I just can't go there....not sure Tua had quite the punch of Foreman or Frazier either. I have to give this some deep thought.

No Prob I was just making sure I hadn't missed a press release.

Tua is an interesting case study. I don't know a lot about his management but it does seem that he missed some great opportunities. Probably by chance, but he did not seem to have that magical ingredient of luck. His story seems to center around not being at the right place at the right time and of course losing that close one with Ike.

He's a guy a lot of people beleived was destined for greater things...and then fate decided they were not going to be partners. I'm guessing he is not heading toward higher altitudes in his boxing career at this point. But with all the old fighters out there taking their shots I suppose you can't rule it out. Too bad he couldnt have arranged a fight with Briggs while he held the WBO...he might have hit paydirt.

One thing that amazes me about Frazier's left hook is how he can double it up. Frazier used it to perfection: he was more accurate with it, was more successful with it, and dominated with it.

When you think about how they might match up against each other I think this SIM makes sense. Tua may have had the heavier hook, but his lack of defense would let him down vs the real hookmeister.


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Regardless of ridiculous premise or idea that this thread is based on......Tua does not deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Joe Frazier.

ringsider wrote:Regardless of ridiculous premise or idea that this thread is based on......Tua does not deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Joe Frazier.

The taboo of comparing the greats vs the not so greats was violated long ago....precedent is set...there is no going back.

BoxBuzz wrote:

ringsider wrote:Regardless of ridiculous premise or idea that this thread is based on......Tua does not deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Joe Frazier.

The taboo of comparing the greats vs the not so greats was violated long ago....precedent is set...there is no going back.

Haha

So down that slippery slope we fall? Not I!! I will fight to maintain my position toward the top of mountain.....no matter how futile the effort maybe. I will not go into the abyss peacefully.

Decagon wrote:This thread is about as dumb as asking who was taller, Naseem Hamed or Sandy Saddler.

Interesting as always.

Decagon wrote:This thread is about as dumb as asking who was taller, Naseem Hamed or Sandy Saddler.

Well Naseem, if he's standing in the ring...and Saddler is sitting in the front row. And don't forget the altitude advantage based on being from England.

BoxBuzz wrote:

Decagon wrote:This thread is about as dumb as asking who was taller, Naseem Hamed or Sandy Saddler.

Well Naseem, if he's standing in the ring...and Saddler is sitting in the front row.

I believe when they both lay on the floor they were the same height give or take a few mm's.

But the real question is who had the best hearing or eyesight?

Tua is fat and knocked out people like Ruiz.

Frazier is a legend and knocked out people like Foster, Quarry, and Ellis.