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mayorga vs vargas press conference punch up

Posted: 12 Jul 2007, 16:25
by el_grande_mauro_mina
http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slug=a ... &type=lgns

Mad Mayorga doing his Herbie Hide impressions
and gettting a split lip for his troubles! :lol:

Re: mayorga vs vargas press conference punch up

Posted: 12 Jul 2007, 16:30
by Kilburn

Posted: 12 Jul 2007, 16:42
by steve689
I hate to admit to it (as it often smacks of WWE) but this stuff is entertaining in a strange sort of way. You have to give it to Mayorga, he always seems to mix up a bit of interest in his fights by running his mouth. I actually like Vargas but i have to confess he did look a bit porky in that clip when he took his top off :roll:

Posted: 12 Jul 2007, 17:28
by hitman_hatton1
i felt sorry for the ginger haired woman sitting next to vargas.

she's dumped on her arse by vargas responding like a punk.

both guys should be retired anyway.

Posted: 12 Jul 2007, 23:44
by Neri
1-0 to Vargas, Mayorga shipped a hefty counter right there.

Image

Posted: 13 Jul 2007, 02:30
by Goldeboi7
That is so obviously set - up, look at the way they look at eachother and the way they are wondering when to do it... Jesus, use your brains people.

Posted: 13 Jul 2007, 05:26
by jamesmcdonnell
So that's tomato ketchup on his face then is it? :roll:

Posted: 13 Jul 2007, 05:37
by TerribleTerry
Gotta love Mayorga's machismo and bluster - he is great entertainment and value.

When he first came to prominance, smoking a fag and drinking a beer in post fight interviews on HBO...

Great stuff! :TU:

Posted: 13 Jul 2007, 05:49
by TerribleTerry
Surely everyone prefers a bit of animosity/needle in their big fights, as opposed to a mutual appreciation society being formed? I know I, for one, do!

I prefer a tag line along the lines of:

“They’re getting it on because they don’t get along!…”

As opposed to:

“An exchange of skills between two well-trained and honed athletes”

Mayorga brings a bit of cheek/ and a sense of theatre to the proceedings.

He is cast as the pantomime bad guy and plays his role well.

His skills may be fast fading but he still knows how to sell a fight!

Posted: 13 Jul 2007, 05:51
by steve689
Goldeboi7 wrote:That is so obviously set - up, look at the way they look at eachother and the way they are wondering when to do it... Jesus, use your brains people.
Vargas: Right now we need to sell this thing so you slag off my wife and i will punch you so hard i cut your face and split your lip.

Mayorga: Si Signor (sic)

Vargas: And while i'm at it i'll cause a full scale melee with a woman next to me.

Mayorga: (In Spanish) And your supporters will start shouting and one will throw a chair at me?

Vargas: It can be arranged.


Yeah it does look staged doesn't it?
:roll:

Posted: 13 Jul 2007, 05:57
by jamesmcdonnell
hitman_hatton1 wrote:i felt sorry for the ginger haired woman sitting next to vargas.

she's dumped on her arse by vargas responding like a punk.

both guys should be retired anyway.
I feel sorry for ALL ginger women.

Posted: 13 Jul 2007, 06:00
by steve689
I'm surprised Vargas jumped across and smacked his man with a woman sitting next to him, he had to push her out the way to get to Mayorga. On re-watching the clip she manages to stumble out the way but it could have got a lot nastier. I think it was poor taste hitting Mayorga with a woman next to him, just my opinion.

Posted: 13 Jul 2007, 06:01
by Captain Hook
Amen to that James,

they're both big mouthed fornicating punks whose mouths outweight their achievements so let's hope they beat each other to a pulp....

Both good fighters in their day, but that day has gone....

Posted: 13 Jul 2007, 06:07
by DavidPayne
In the film of Don Kings life will Danny Glover play lead?

"I'm getting to old for this shit!"

Posted: 13 Jul 2007, 06:08
by steve689
I respect Vargas because win or lose he has ducked nobody throughout his career. However, in this bout i think he needs to resist getting dragged into a brawl and i don't know if he can do it. He was clearly upset when the crowd booed his safety first approach versus Castillejo and if he goes into the trenches with Mayorga i am not confident his chin can hold out.

Mayorga is clever as he is dragging Vargas into a war here, goading him to come out and start slugging on heart rather than head, Mayorga knows it is his only chance as he will otherwise get outboxed. I foresee a slugging "machismo" fight and i don't think Vargas can last in that environment anymore.

Posted: 13 Jul 2007, 06:15
by Kilburn
I hope Vargas can go out on a high. He really has faced just about everyone. A stoppage win over Mayorga will at least restore a bit of pride.

Ferroz was a winner for so long, taking on stiffer tests fight after fight. But then he just seemed to turn into a punch bag for the top guys after the life changing battle with Tito.

Posted: 13 Jul 2007, 06:19
by Kilburn
jamesmcdonnell wrote: I feel sorry for ALL ginger women.
I don't know about that mate, Kate Winslet would GET IT.

Posted: 13 Jul 2007, 06:21
by DavidPayne
So would Julienne Moore.

Posted: 13 Jul 2007, 06:22
by oliverfennell
Isla Fisher is a very long-standing fixture around the top of my "to do" list.

Posted: 13 Jul 2007, 06:25
by jamesmcdonnell
Kilburn wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote: I feel sorry for ALL ginger women.
I don't know about that mate, Kate Winslet would GET IT.
Since when is Kate Winslet a Ginger?

Posted: 13 Jul 2007, 06:26
by DavidPayne
And as she's regularly being boned by Borat, presumably you still feel you have a chance.

Posted: 13 Jul 2007, 06:27
by DavidPayne
The curly, big nosed one in The Chase, formly a lesbian in Brookside, is worth an interest - but for the life of me, I don't know why?

Posted: 13 Jul 2007, 06:29
by Kilburn
jamesmcdonnell wrote: Since when is Kate Winslet a Ginger?
In Titanic of course! Haven't really seen her in anything else to be fair.

Posted: 13 Jul 2007, 06:30
by oliverfennell
DavidPayne wrote:And as she's regularly being boned by Borat, presumably you still feel you have a chance.
I'm sure if I moved to Kazakhstan, I could manouevre my way into the position of THIRD biggest celebrity.

Posted: 13 Jul 2007, 07:23
by Carbo
I spend a few days in Helsinki and I come back to a fuse-wire appreciation society. What's the world coming to?

Anyway, back to the debate, and surely Vargas' chin will be key here. Mayorga's a crude brawler nowhere near big enough to be fighting at 162lbs, but Vargas will never, ever try to box his way to victory in his last fight. He'll bang and brawl, and his Taped-Fist-Trinidad ruined chin will do well to hold out.

In other news, I watched the brawl on youtube and I noticed that Mayorga wanted to go down to 147 after this fight to challenge Cotto, Margarito, Mosley et al. Surely pie in the sky. First, Mayorga is terribly overrated by the easily impressed by brawling US fight fan; he's simply not in the class of those man.

And second, he just can't make the weight. I remember he was scheduled to fight at 147 just after he lost his welterweight title to Spinks, looked shredded at the weigh-in with not and gram of fat on his torso, but came in about 6lbs above the limit, forcing King to find an alternate opponent. Does anybody else remember this?

No way he makes 147 now.