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British Title question, is this a first?

Posted: 23 Jul 2007, 05:46
by Old bones Ian
Tony Oakey v Brian Magee is set for Dublin, is this the first time a British title fight has been held outside of Britain?

Re: British Title question, is this a first?

Posted: 23 Jul 2007, 05:48
by The Blade
Old bones Ian wrote:Tony Oakey v Brian Magee is set for Dublin, is this the first time a British title fight has been held outside of Britain?
grammer boy. outside Britain not outside of

Re: British Title question, is this a first?

Posted: 23 Jul 2007, 05:48
by bennie
Old bones Ian wrote:Tony Oakey v Brian Magee is set for Dublin, is this the first time a British title fight has been held outside of Britain?
I asked Rob Smith this on Saturday night. He believes it is.

Posted: 23 Jul 2007, 05:50
by oliverfennell
GRAMMAR, boy.

Capital letter to start sentences.

Comma before naming subject of address.

Capital letter to start second sentence.

Comma after "Outside Britain".

Full stop to end sentence.

Re: British Title question, is this a first?

Posted: 23 Jul 2007, 05:52
by Old bones Ian
The Blade wrote:
Old bones Ian wrote:Tony Oakey v Brian Magee is set for Dublin, is this the first time a British title fight has been held outside of Britain?
grammer boy. outside Britain not outside of
Christ mate, you should see my spelling.

Posted: 23 Jul 2007, 05:52
by bennie
Of course, Horace Notice and Hughroy Currie took part in a Britsh heavyweight title classic (remember them?) in the Isle of Man in 1985.

Posted: 23 Jul 2007, 05:55
by dondada
I might have dreamed this one up but I'm sure I read somewhere a British title fight has been contested in the States once upon a time.

Posted: 23 Jul 2007, 05:57
by bennie
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:I might have dreamed this one up but I'm sure I read somewhere a British title fight has been contested in the States once upon a time.
You might be thinking of Scott Welch-James Oyebola in Nashville (for the WBC International title).
I also have a nagging feeling about it, which is why I asked Rob.

Posted: 23 Jul 2007, 06:01
by Old bones Ian
oliverfennell wrote:GRAMMAR, boy.

Capital letter to start sentences.

Comma before naming subject of address.

Capital letter to start second sentence.

Comma after "Outside Britain".

Full stop to end sentence.
You are talking to a man that left school half way through my final year. I have no idea on grammer.
I've found bullshit and bluff has got me quite far though. :TU:

Posted: 23 Jul 2007, 06:01
by The Blade
oliverfennell wrote:GRAMMAR, boy.

Capital letter to start sentences.

Comma before naming subject of address.

Capital letter to start second sentence.

Comma after "Outside Britain".

Full stop to end sentence.
The phrase 'there is a', or 'there should be a' ought to ideally preface what is your otherwise outstanding contribution to what I still suggest is a worthy attempt to improve the use of the English language round here.

Posted: 23 Jul 2007, 06:10
by oliverfennell
The Blade wrote:
oliverfennell wrote:GRAMMAR, boy.

Capital letter to start sentences.

Comma before naming subject of address.

Capital letter to start second sentence.

Comma after "Outside Britain".

Full stop to end sentence.
The phrase 'there is a', or 'there should be a' ought to ideally preface what is your otherwise outstanding contribution to what I still suggest is a worthy attempt to improve the use of the English language round here.
Around here.

Posted: 23 Jul 2007, 06:12
by The Blade
oliverfennell wrote:
The Blade wrote:
oliverfennell wrote:GRAMMAR, boy.

Capital letter to start sentences.

Comma before naming subject of address.

Capital letter to start second sentence.

Comma after "Outside Britain".

Full stop to end sentence.
The phrase 'there is a', or 'there should be a' ought to ideally preface what is your otherwise outstanding contribution to what I still suggest is a worthy attempt to improve the use of the English language round here.
Around here.
hereabouts, to be picky

Posted: 23 Jul 2007, 06:20
by oliverfennell
The Blade wrote:
oliverfennell wrote:
The Blade wrote: The phrase 'there is a', or 'there should be a' ought to ideally preface what is your otherwise outstanding contribution to what I still suggest is a worthy attempt to improve the use of the English language round here.
Around here.
hereabouts, to be picky
Come on, The Blade, I already told you about the use of capital letters and full stops.

Posted: 23 Jul 2007, 06:51
by TerribleTerry
Grammar Nazis on an internet message board… Whatever next?

This place is already ‘geeky’ enough; lets not see it descend any further into the abyss of anorak-ism :lol:

Ya no wot I meen?

Posted: 23 Jul 2007, 07:13
by chesh
The Blade wrote:
oliverfennell wrote:GRAMMAR, boy.

Capital letter to start sentences.

Comma before naming subject of address.

Capital letter to start second sentence.

Comma after "Outside Britain".

Full stop to end sentence.
The phrase 'there is a', or 'there should be a' ought to ideally preface what is your otherwise outstanding contribution to what I still suggest is a worthy attempt to improve the use of the English language round here.
"... ought, ideally, to preface what is your otherwise outstanding contribution..." would, Mr. Blade, be more grammatically correct, as it avoids splitting the infinitive!

Posted: 23 Jul 2007, 07:58
by dondada
chesh wrote:
The Blade wrote:
oliverfennell wrote:GRAMMAR, boy.

Capital letter to start sentences.

Comma before naming subject of address.

Capital letter to start second sentence.

Comma after "Outside Britain".

Full stop to end sentence.
The phrase 'there is a', or 'there should be a' ought to ideally preface what is your otherwise outstanding contribution to what I still suggest is a worthy attempt to improve the use of the English language round here.
"... ought, ideally, to preface what is your otherwise outstanding contribution..." would, Mr. Blade, be more grammatically correct, as it avoids splitting the infinitive!
There is no grammatical rule about splitting infinitives as far as I know - I believe it's a common misconception, me old pal.

Posted: 23 Jul 2007, 08:07
by Old bones Ian
I wish i kew what you lot were on about

Posted: 23 Jul 2007, 08:20
by oliverfennell
TerribleTerry wrote:Grammar Nazis on an internet message board… Whatever next?

This place is already ‘geeky’ enough; lets not see it descend any further into the abyss of anorak-ism :lol:

Ya no wot I meen?
I just couldn't resist jumping on The Blade for making his own grammatical (and a spelling) mistakes when bringing somebody else up about their grammar.

Posted: 23 Jul 2007, 08:48
by chesh
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:
chesh wrote:
The Blade wrote: The phrase 'there is a', or 'there should be a' ought to ideally preface what is your otherwise outstanding contribution to what I still suggest is a worthy attempt to improve the use of the English language round here.
"... ought, ideally, to preface what is your otherwise outstanding contribution..." would, Mr. Blade, be more grammatically correct, as it avoids splitting the infinitive!
There is no grammatical rule about splitting infinitives as far as I know - I believe it's a common misconception, me old pal.
Split infinitives are believed to have crept into common usage in the English language as a result of the influence of Old French at the time of the Norman Conquests. Rules have been introduced - or grammarians have attempted to introduce rules - to prohibit their use. According to Wikipedia: "... split infinitives are far more common in speech than in, say, academic writing. Thus, while an outright prohibition on the split infinitive is no longer sustainable on descriptive grounds (as it was in 1834), the advice to avoid it in formal settings, and to avoid some types in particular, remains a tenable position."

To use or not to use split infinitives is subject to debate, but my advice would be that writers should learn to not split infinitives!

Posted: 23 Jul 2007, 08:56
by dondada
chesh wrote:
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:
chesh wrote: "... ought, ideally, to preface what is your otherwise outstanding contribution..." would, Mr. Blade, be more grammatically correct, as it avoids splitting the infinitive!
There is no grammatical rule about splitting infinitives as far as I know - I believe it's a common misconception, me old pal.
Split infinitives are believed to have crept into common usage in the English language as a result of the influence of Old French at the time of the Norman Conquests. Rules have been introduced - or grammarians have attempted to introduce rules - to prohibit their use. According to Wikipedia: "... split infinitives are far more common in speech than in, say, academic writing. Thus, while an outright prohibition on the split infinitive is no longer sustainable on descriptive grounds (as it was in 1834), the advice to avoid it in formal settings, and to avoid some types in particular, remains a tenable position."

To use or not to use split infinitives is subject to debate, but my advice would be that writers should learn to not split infinitives!
Oh yes, it's a tenable view. But not one I readily share.

Posted: 23 Jul 2007, 09:28
by Old bones Ian
chesh wrote:
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:
chesh wrote: "... ought, ideally, to preface what is your otherwise outstanding contribution..." would, Mr. Blade, be more grammatically correct, as it avoids splitting the infinitive!
There is no grammatical rule about splitting infinitives as far as I know - I believe it's a common misconception, me old pal.
Split infinitives are believed to have crept into common usage in the English language as a result of the influence of Old French at the time of the Norman Conquests. Rules have been introduced - or grammarians have attempted to introduce rules - to prohibit their use. According to Wikipedia: "... split infinitives are far more common in speech than in, say, academic writing. Thus, while an outright prohibition on the split infinitive is no longer sustainable on descriptive grounds (as it was in 1834), the advice to avoid it in formal settings, and to avoid some types in particular, remains a tenable position."

To use or not to use split infinitives is subject to debate, but my advice would be that writers should learn to not split infinitives!
Haha , yes i was just about to write exactly that. I love talking about grammer. I could go on for hours, but won't.

Posted: 23 Jul 2007, 09:31
by oliverfennell
Relative to the original point, Junior Witter v Lovemore Ndou was held in America for the "Commonwealth championship of the world", according to the MC.

Posted: 23 Jul 2007, 09:42
by TerribleTerry
Steve Collins v Sam Storey for the Irish middleweight title was contested in Boston, USA.

I am sure there are plenty of other examples, although probably not for the British.

Posted: 23 Jul 2007, 10:46
by steve689
Seems like The Blade has been reading his copy of "Eats, Shoots and Leaves" by Lynne Truss before engaging grammatical warfare on this topic :TU:

Posted: 23 Jul 2007, 11:04
by oliverfennell
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