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Secondsout once again blowing off their chosen one!
Posted: 08 Aug 2007, 05:05
by boxingchatter
http://www.secondsout.com/news/index.cf ... 4&cs=22502
“Greenberg hopes an impressive performance in Utah will set him up for a massive fight before Christmas, that is when his ever growing army of fans will see the best of him.”
“massive fight before Xmas” - we’ve heard that regarding Greenberg every few months for YEARS from Secondsout. “his ever growing army of fans” LMFAO!
When o when is this fat, useless bacon-dodger gonna fight anyone with a pulse?
I know most guys here don’t care but I want to see it happen so I can watch the fatboy go down!
Posted: 08 Aug 2007, 05:15
by boxingchat
Cut thre 'bacon dodger' comment out. Racism has no place on here. I agree that Greenburg is crap but his race is nothing to do with it.
Disgusting bringing that into it, fornicating Nazi.
Posted: 08 Aug 2007, 05:42
by boxingchatter
My girl's from a Jewish family. And yes, I call her a bacon dodger even though she doesn't practice. Making fun of someone's DIET is not racist and if anyone is offended that's not my intention.
And if you wanna get smart, Jewish dudes not eating pig has nothing to do with their race. It is to do with their religion - and all religions are beyond stupid and deserve to have the piss ripped out of them as often as possible.
Or do you really believe that everyone should, weekly, eat the metaphysical flesh and drink the blood of a man who allegedly lived 2000 years ago and not only had magic powers which are ever the envy of the X-Men but also allowed himself to be tortured and killed, only to resurrect himself and later shoot his mother’s corpse into space, in an effort to atone for the Original Sin™ of shagging, which happened in a magic garden when an quasi-immortal man (Adam) shagging a quasi-immortal women on the sole advise of a talking snake?
Getting back to boxing, though, I do know what was racist. When a certain British promoter starting a meeting in Germany with a Jewish promoter by staying "Bet you're shitting it, being here in Germany aren't ya?"
Posted: 08 Aug 2007, 06:16
by boxingchatter
Never met him, sorry. But if you go to Glastonbury there's plenty of folks who look like him.
Posted: 08 Aug 2007, 06:23
by Wales
Love the family guy scene, where peter says Jesus powers were exagerated, scene flicks to jesus pretending his thumb has come off in a got your nose stylee.
Posted: 08 Aug 2007, 06:29
by bennie
"You're only saying that because you know he's got bad hands."
Posted: 08 Aug 2007, 07:46
by dookus
boxingchatter wrote:My girl's from a Jewish family. And yes, I call her a bacon dodger even though she doesn't practice. Making fun of someone's DIET is not racist and if anyone is offended that's not my intention.
And if you wanna get smart, Jewish dudes not eating pig has nothing to do with their race. It is to do with their religion - and all religions are beyond stupid and deserve to have the piss ripped out of them as often as possible.
Or do you really believe that everyone should, weekly, eat the metaphysical flesh and drink the blood of a man who allegedly lived 2000 years ago and not only had magic powers which are ever the envy of the X-Men but also allowed himself to be tortured and killed, only to resurrect himself and later shoot his mother’s corpse into space, in an effort to atone for the Original Sin™ of shagging, which happened in a magic garden when an quasi-immortal man (Adam) shagging a quasi-immortal women on the sole advise of a talking snake?
Getting back to boxing, though, I do know what was racist. When a certain British promoter starting a meeting in Germany with a Jewish promoter by staying "Bet you're shitting it, being here in Germany aren't ya?"
hahahahaha, an absolute thorough owning of boxingtwat
Posted: 08 Aug 2007, 08:01
by Autobarn
PC backfire if ever there was one.
Posted: 08 Aug 2007, 08:09
by Albert
The Greenburg saga is starting to get really stupid. He needs to fight someone with a pulse.
Posted: 08 Aug 2007, 08:24
by Dirk Kelly
Perhaps Box Recs very own Cliff Couser can help? The more Greenburgs people talk this crap the more I want to see him exposed. Teh first billion dollar heavyweight! In the words of Jim Royale - My Arse!
Posted: 08 Aug 2007, 09:04
by DavidPayne
Is Jim Royale what they call Quarterpounders in your neck of the woods?
Posted: 08 Aug 2007, 09:12
by jamesmcdonnell
dopey wrote:Perhaps Box Recs very own Cliff Couser can help? The more Greenburgs people talk this crap the more I want to see him exposed. Teh first billion dollar heavyweight! In the words of Jim Royale - My Arse!
Hang on, wasn't that supposed to be Matthew Ellis?
Posted: 08 Aug 2007, 09:28
by oliverfennell
jamesmcdonnell wrote:dopey wrote:Perhaps Box Recs very own Cliff Couser can help? The more Greenburgs people talk this crap the more I want to see him exposed. Teh first billion dollar heavyweight! In the words of Jim Royale - My Arse!
Hang on, wasn't that supposed to be Matthew Ellis?
Yes it was. And they were almost right. He must be worth a billion Vietnamese Dong.
Posted: 08 Aug 2007, 09:39
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
They don't seem to have much confidence in him. I'd like to see him in against Skeleton or Williams. I think they want to cash out on him against a big name or belt holder. There was talk of him fighting Vitali.
Greeburg isn't that terrible. He has decent power, decent handspeed, decent jab, decent workrate, decent size at 240lbs and 6'3 and hes only 24/25. Yes hes not ripped, he has an open defense and who knows how good his chin is.
So if they throw him in with a weak belt holder he may even grab a belt for a little while.
Posted: 08 Aug 2007, 09:40
by steve689
jamesmcdonnell wrote:dopey wrote:Perhaps Box Recs very own Cliff Couser can help? The more Greenburgs people talk this crap the more I want to see him exposed. Teh first billion dollar heavyweight! In the words of Jim Royale - My Arse!
Hang on, wasn't that supposed to be Matthew Ellis?
Secondsout calling Greenberg the first billion dollar Heavyweight was a total joke. The first billion pound Heavyweight might have been more appropriate

Posted: 08 Aug 2007, 10:04
by boxingchat
boxingchatter wrote:My girl's from a Jewish family. And yes, I call her a bacon dodger even though she doesn't practice. Making fun of someone's DIET is not racist and if anyone is offended that's not my intention.
And if you wanna get smart, Jewish dudes not eating pig has nothing to do with their race. It is to do with their religion - and all religions are beyond stupid and deserve to have the piss ripped out of them as often as possible.
Or do you really believe that everyone should, weekly, eat the metaphysical flesh and drink the blood of a man who allegedly lived 2000 years ago and not only had magic powers which are ever the envy of the X-Men but also allowed himself to be tortured and killed, only to resurrect himself and later shoot his mother’s corpse into space, in an effort to atone for the Original Sin™ of shagging, which happened in a magic garden when an quasi-immortal man (Adam) shagging a quasi-immortal women on the sole advise of a talking snake?
Getting back to boxing, though, I do know what was racist. When a certain British promoter starting a meeting in Germany with a Jewish promoter by staying "Bet you're shitting it, being here in Germany aren't ya?"
I sort of concede that one but nevertheless the 'Bacon Dodger' comment was still uncalled for.Jewish people consider their religion and race to be one and the same so your comments may offend.
Who was the British and Jewish promoter out of interest?
Posted: 08 Aug 2007, 10:18
by jonp
boxingchat wrote:boxingchatter wrote:My girl's from a Jewish family. And yes, I call her a bacon dodger even though she doesn't practice. Making fun of someone's DIET is not racist and if anyone is offended that's not my intention.
And if you wanna get smart, Jewish dudes not eating pig has nothing to do with their race. It is to do with their religion - and all religions are beyond stupid and deserve to have the piss ripped out of them as often as possible.
Or do you really believe that everyone should, weekly, eat the metaphysical flesh and drink the blood of a man who allegedly lived 2000 years ago and not only had magic powers which are ever the envy of the X-Men but also allowed himself to be tortured and killed, only to resurrect himself and later shoot his mother’s corpse into space, in an effort to atone for the Original Sin™ of shagging, which happened in a magic garden when an quasi-immortal man (Adam) shagging a quasi-immortal women on the sole advise of a talking snake?
Getting back to boxing, though, I do know what was racist. When a certain British promoter starting a meeting in Germany with a Jewish promoter by staying "Bet you're shitting it, being here in Germany aren't ya?"
I sort of concede that one but nevertheless the 'Bacon Dodger' comment was still uncalled for.Jewish people consider their religion and race to be one and the same so your comments may offend.
Who was the British and Jewish promoter out of interest?
Dont realy care too much but saying its his religion not his race is a weak arguement.
Call some slant eyes (features)Cotton picker (Job)Frog (animal)Bog hopper (not sure)Raghead (clothing)
None of these are mentioning race but try using and them and ul be banned pretty quick,so why would bacon dodger be any differnt?
Posted: 08 Aug 2007, 10:32
by Dirk Kelly
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:They don't seem to have much confidence in him. I'd like to see him in against Skeleton or Williams. I think they want to cash out on him against a big name or belt holder. There was talk of him fighting Vitali.
Greeburg isn't that terrible. He has decent power, decent handspeed, decent jab, decent workrate, decent size at 240lbs and 6'3 and hes only 24/25. Yes hes not ripped, he has an open defense and who knows how good his chin is.
So if they throw him in with a weak belt holder he may even grab a belt for a little while.
There is so many stories about Roman being exposed, dropped, wobbled in training that there must be some truth to the rumours.
Posted: 08 Aug 2007, 10:51
by Chambers2
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
Greeburg isn't that terrible. He has decent power, decent handspeed, decent jab, decent workrate, decent size at 240lbs and 6'3 and hes only 24/25. Yes hes not ripped, he has an open defense and who knows how good his chin is.
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His workrates been shiite everytime I've saw him and despite his record I wouldn't class him as a BIG puncher, but his handspeed is excellent for a BIG un and his footwok was good as well as I remember. He's gonna need to have a good chin to carry his style off at the top level IMO
Posted: 08 Aug 2007, 12:10
by boxingchatter
I sort of concede that one but nevertheless the 'Bacon Dodger' comment was still uncalled for.Jewish people consider their religion and race to be one and the same so your comments may offend.
Fair enough. I didn't mean any offense, just think any code where you decide one animal is "dirty" and not OK to eat is daft when you still eat cows etc - but only if they are killed in a certain way.
Check out Pulp Fiction for more on this argument.
Who was the British and Jewish promoter out of interest?[/quote]
I can picture his fresh little face but can't recall...

Posted: 08 Aug 2007, 12:17
by states
The biggest problem I have with Greenberg is that he actually seems to be getting worse every time I see him. That's probably not unrelated to the fact that his opposition is consistently dreadful (and fighting Damon Reed is not going to rectify that). He looks overweight and lazy, if I'm being perfectly honest. Yes, his handspeed is good, but he doesn't throw enough punches, and he's catching a few too many in return. He just looks disinterested at times. I remember his own corner threatening to pull him out in one of his recent fights in Monte Carlo, because he was doing fornicate-all.
Posted: 08 Aug 2007, 12:49
by boxingchatter
jonp wrote:boxingchat wrote:boxingchatter wrote:My girl's from a Jewish family. And yes, I call her a bacon dodger even though she doesn't practice. Making fun of someone's DIET is not racist and if anyone is offended that's not my intention.
And if you wanna get smart, Jewish dudes not eating pig has nothing to do with their race. It is to do with their religion - and all religions are beyond stupid and deserve to have the piss ripped out of them as often as possible.
Or do you really believe that everyone should, weekly, eat the metaphysical flesh and drink the blood of a man who allegedly lived 2000 years ago and not only had magic powers which are ever the envy of the X-Men but also allowed himself to be tortured and killed, only to resurrect himself and later shoot his mother’s corpse into space, in an effort to atone for the Original Sin™ of shagging, which happened in a magic garden when an quasi-immortal man (Adam) shagging a quasi-immortal women on the sole advise of a talking snake?
Getting back to boxing, though, I do know what was racist. When a certain British promoter starting a meeting in Germany with a Jewish promoter by staying "Bet you're shitting it, being here in Germany aren't ya?"
I sort of concede that one but nevertheless the 'Bacon Dodger' comment was still uncalled for.Jewish people consider their religion and race to be one and the same so your comments may offend.
Who was the British and Jewish promoter out of interest?
Dont realy care too much but saying its his religion not his race is a weak arguement.
Call some slant eyes (features)Cotton picker (Job)Frog (animal)Bog hopper (not sure)Raghead (clothing)
None of these are mentioning race but try using and them and ul be banned pretty quick,so why would bacon dodger be any differnt?
It is not a weak argument, just a sophisticated one.
You can dislike/disagree with a belief/religion a person has without hating or disliking the person (and I don‘t know Greenberg, he may be a nice kid, but he‘s a crap fighter). Likewise not having any respect for an institution does not automatically follow I don’t have respect for any particular individual who has that belief or follows that religion.
Again, I wasn’t being racist towards Greenberg. Merely I think religion - all of them, even the cool ones like Jason and the Argonaughts - are stupid. If Evander Holyfield etc can spout pro-religious crap in the ring, don’t dump on me for making on dumb comment on a forum.
If anything, Greenberg is the racist as evidenced here by his very own cheerleader Clive Bernath
http://www.secondsout.com/UK/news.cfm?ccs=228&cs=20083
Posted: 08 Aug 2007, 12:52
by boxingchatter
states wrote:The biggest problem I have with Greenberg is that he actually seems to be getting worse every time I see him. That's probably not unrelated to the fact that his opposition is consistently dreadful (and fighting Damon Reed is not going to rectify that). He looks overweight and lazy, if I'm being perfectly honest. Yes, his handspeed is good, but he doesn't throw enough punches, and he's catching a few too many in return. He just looks disinterested at times. I remember his own corner threatening to pull him out in one of his recent fights in Monte Carlo, because he was doing eff-all.
He's a effing BUM. A big fat, Shriek lookalike slothful waste of space!
Posted: 08 Aug 2007, 12:55
by boxingchatter
Talking of race-hate in boxing? Was anyone there at O2 to hear Amir get a load of abuse from Mitchell supporters? Did it actually happen?
Couldn't hear it on TV but Star wrote it was pretty bad.
Posted: 08 Aug 2007, 13:29
by nickd
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
So if they throw him in with a weak belt holder he may even grab a belt for a little while.
No chance!