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Champions Who Were Better Contenders
Posted: 22 Aug 2007, 01:14
by HomicideHenry
We all know what this topic means, the guys who literally blew us away when they were reaching the top, but failed to capitalize once they reached the top of the mountain....
For me the list goes as:
-Sonny Liston
-George Foreman (both 'careers')
-Bob Fitzsimmons
-Ingemar Johansson
-Max Baer
-Jack Sharkey
-Max Schmeling
-Jim Corbett
-Riddick Bowe
-Michael Moorer
And that's just out of the HW's, that I can really make the case for.
Posted: 22 Aug 2007, 03:10
by Grant
Of the recent batch of fighters I nominate:
Zab Judah and
Robbie Peden
Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 21:14
by torodecayey
Hector Camacho
Harold Johnson
Rodrigo Valdez
Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 21:44
by I Feel Fine
Ken Norton is probably the best example, if you consider him a champion at all, he's the only Heavyweight champion never to win a title fight.
Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 22:22
by HomicideHenry
Not necessarily Feel, considering Lennox Lewis, like Ken Norton, never won the title from Riddick Bowe, it was handed to him. But then again, I can name a few other champions who won titles who never necessarily beat the man who beat the man.
But maybe you are meaning in the sense that Norton never won a championship fight period but was a 'champ' by the WBC anyways, considering he lost to Ali, Foreman and then to Holmes, which were all title fights. Then of course, you're right.
Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 22:33
by I Feel Fine
Right, I mean the latter. He never won a title in the ring and he lost his only defense to Holmes.
Posted: 24 Aug 2007, 00:20
by Victor*KC
Decagon wrote:Manuel Medina:
- Five-time featherweight titlist
- Five total successful title defenses
Very good pick..he was thought to be washed up way too many times..If you consider the WBO a title add Jose Luiz Lopez to the list..Randall Bailey when he was coming up the ranks he was considered the next Hearns he never reached that level..Rosendo Alvarez? he was a good champ but had more potential.."Sigh" damn that don king..
Posted: 24 Aug 2007, 00:30
by Victor*KC
Decagon wrote:That's not all of it:
- 4 of his 5 defenses came in his first reign
- Right now, at the age of 36, he still has a top IBF ranking!
My god I just looked over at his record..he is the king of title bouts..Lost to alot of B Class fighers..well he definately has "good connections"
Posted: 24 Aug 2007, 07:09
by -KOKid-
Jermain Taylor has still to impress me since becoming the champion at middleweight.
Some of his opponents have been topnotchers, I know, but I still say he looked more solid a few years ago.
-KOKid-
Posted: 24 Aug 2007, 15:41
by markl
Taylor never fought anyone before he was a champion.
Jersey joe Walcott fits the bill. Although he should have been a champion before he was.