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i know tyson was obviously gifted, but what sort of things would be the best way to reach his particular style? what type of workouts and partice would one use to get that bob and weave and powerful punch snap?

no ridicule. answer or dont.

I think he's asking more so on how he could have/develop Tyson's style then how you could beat him.....

Decagon wrote:Traditional boxing methods combined with steroids to help recover from excess training. Really, you have to train like Joe Frazier/Rocky Balboa. It's practically impossible without artificial testosterone. I don't know how Frazier did it.

Frazier was testosterone with a left hook.

Cider Web wrote:i know tyson was obviously gifted, but what sort of things would be the best way to reach his particular style? what type of workouts and partice would one use to get that bob and weave and powerful punch snap?

no ridicule. answer or dont.

It's not really something you can develop, you have to already have good handspeed and power in order to develop something similar to a Tyson or Frazier, if you don't have that speed or power that style isn't a good one cause you put yourself right in the trenches to get hit a lot. If by chance you do have incredible power and good-great handspeed like Dec said you'd basically have to train like a madman in order to be able to use such a physical high-energy style with success. Michael Katsidis is one of the few good examples of a guy being able to sustain that kind of attack for an extended period, most guys would get burned out quick using it because it's a style that requires constant movement and a lot of tension in the muscles at the moment of throwing the punches to get maximum power out of them.

Frazier and Tyson had noticieably different styles. The D-Amato school of fighting is not what Frazier employed.

It's all about timing, knowing when to explode, both hands up to your face, fast feet to go in and out. You would need a trainer who's been trained in that style. No particular excercises will do anything to help you in that respect.

And in terms of having good snap to your punches, you can get better through mitt work and punch-timing workouts, but for the most part you are either born with the time of musculature to snap a punch well or you're not IMO.

Cider Web wrote:i know tyson was obviously gifted, but what sort of things would be the best way to reach his particular style? what type of workouts and partice would one use to get that bob and weave and powerful punch snap?

no ridicule. answer or dont.

He had the best in Cus that brought his best out not to mention the sheer power, ability, and style. Inside, bob/weave, and try to kill your opponent. His intimidation tactics had many fights won before he even stepped foot into any ring. He was just a monster with power and when he caught you it was game over. I don't think we will see another Iron Mike (early years of his career) for quite some time. No one in the division has this present day. He was unique to a sport that had not seen anything like him and his era will never forget what he did to people.

He fell apart in a hurry after he left his original team. Nobody believed James Douglas could beat him. Mike did not like it when he knocked people down and they got up again.

Holyfield seemed to have no trouble beating him. Tyson was not the bravest boxer, he dogged it against McBride. He should have been able to keep going in that fight.

Decagon wrote:Yeah, Tyson might have been able to continue against McBride, but most of us, given similar situations, wouldn't.

Floyd Patterson did his back in early in the fight the first time he fought Ali. He kept going until the referee stopped it in the twelfth.

I suppose that is the difference between a champion and most of us.

#1- shifting body weight

#2- commitment to the punch

#3- angle of the punch

There's alotta factors tbh in this, but having no fear, pulling back, putting your body weight into your blows, hitting upwards and from the shoulders have greater results than hitting downward or if you was simply an arm puncher like Tex Cobb [for instance].

The peek-a-boo boxing style is vulnerable to the right uppercut. Patterson avoided Liston's power shots using the bob & weave until Liston nailed him with it. Douglas nailed Tyson with it as well. Liston, Foreman & Louis would have used it to beat Tyson. Patterson & Torres used the peek-a-boo as well but I don't think their styles were similar to Tyson. They were boxer-punchers where as Tyson was all power.