Chad Dawson

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 02 Oct 2007, 09:21

I remember seeng him at the World Juniors in 2000 where he won a bronze medal at middleweight. He lost in a competitive bout to cuban Sullivan Barrera who went on to win gold. Barrera won 21-11 in a good fight and Dawson was the only american who looked like he could go on to become an international level fighter.
Dawson turned pro the following year and I can't find anything else on him. Does Mel or anyone else know how he did at other national and international tournaments?

hurricanemitch14 · Post by **hurricanemitch14** » 02 Oct 2007, 15:11

he went 67-13

Junior Olympian Chad was a three-time State Champion, a two-time regional champ and a national runner up. He continued to add to his accolades with top honors in the 2000 Golden Gloves championships in Holyoke, MA. He was a champion in the Us Nationals in the Under 19 Championships, earned a Bronze medal in the World Under 19-Championships and he was named USA Boxing Athlete of the Month for November of 2000.

i found this off of a website

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 02 Oct 2007, 16:19

Thanks a lot. But I'm not sure he was a national runner up. Andre Ward won the US Nationals in 2001 and he didn't fight Dawson.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 03 Oct 2007, 15:01

I'm looking up Chad's national accomplishments. Will post tonight.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 03 Oct 2007, 23:12

Had fun trying to track down any national record on Chad. If he was ever a JO champ, it was at the local or regional level because he never participated in a JO National. He may have won Silver Gloves championships but I don't have any records for that far back.

In 1999, he lost in the Under-19 Championships by DQ in the semis.

In 2000 he won the U-19 Championships. I'm guessing he went to the Junior Worlds in Hungary that same year, although I don't have any results.

In 2001 he turned pro.

I can't find any record where he competed in the Golden Gloves or the U.S. Championships - I even checked the National PAL. He never boxed Andre Ward at the national level.

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 04 Oct 2007, 11:21

His amateur background might not be that extensive, but he is doing very well as a pro.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 04 Oct 2007, 11:57

Heh heh. I don't think his wellness as a pro had much to do with the original question asked by localbox:

Does Mel or anyone else know how he did at other national and international tournaments?

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 05 Oct 2007, 08:53

I liked him at the 2000 World Juniors where he stopped a kazakh before losing to cuban Barrera. Strange he dind't compete at the 2001 US Nationals.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 05 Oct 2007, 09:44

He may have lost at the local, state or regional levels in tournaments leading to the U.S. Championships and Golden Gloves. He certainly doesn't have an extensive "elite" amateur background.

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 05 Oct 2007, 10:52

Maybe he didn't have an extensive amateur career but not too many americans have won a medal at the World juniors lately and he was certainly by far the best american boxer of that 2000 U19 squad.

Chauncy · Post by **Chauncy** » 10 Oct 2007, 20:38

My brother, Dumont "Dewey" Welliver beat him in the finals of the 1998 Junior Olympics.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 10 Oct 2007, 21:01

Your brother Dewey was one heck of a JO! I'm still upset that he turned pro when he did. And, yes, he beat Chad 5-0 and I was there (had to look it up to remember). Tell Dewey I said hi! (Melanie from Southern California and the [now defunct] Blue & Gold. You, too, Chauncy. 8)

Chauncy · Post by **Chauncy** » 10 Oct 2007, 21:41

boxmel wrote:Your brother Dewey was one heck of a JO! I'm still upset that he turned pro when he did. And, yes, he beat Chad 5-0 and I was there (had to look it up to remember). Tell Dewey I said hi! (Melanie from Southern California and the [now defunct] Blue & Gold. You, too, Chauncy. 8)

I will tell him, and thank you from both of us.
The Blue and Gold in no longer a tournament? Since when?

I loved fighting in that tournament, and it was my only nationals I participated in.

You running any other tournaments now? You definantly knew how to run a show.

Thanks Mel

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 10 Oct 2007, 22:23

The Blue and Gold in no longer a tournament? Since when?

Last one in Baldwin Park was in 2005. The 2000 B&G was a smashing success with over 300 boxers. Local politics ran out me and my husband and the others who helped me run the tournament and it went downhill after that.

I loved fighting in that tournament, and it was my only nationals I participated in.

Yes, I remember the year you came - quite chubby, if I recall.

You running any other tournaments now?

Nope. I'm not part of the LBC "in crowd," thank goodness!!!

I have very fond memories of Josh Dahl, you and Dewey, Mahlon Kerwick, and Nalo Leal all boxing in the tournament.

Chauncy · Post by **Chauncy** » 10 Oct 2007, 22:36

Still quite chubby! Been working in it since Nationals.

The Northwest has had som very good amateurs.
Nalo actually is coaching a team of his own now. He is a very good coach.

I loved fighting in that tournament, and it was my only nationals I participated in.

Yes, I remember the year you came - quite chubby, if I recall.

Kolya · Post by **Kolya** » 10 Oct 2007, 23:59

Hey Chauncy, good to see someone else from the Northwest area on here. Which gym in Spokane do you usually work out at? Should be fighting there in November I think; Howard St. is putting on some sub-novice tournament and I'm looking to get a non-tournament match. I think you might have worked with a guy I know, Jesus Vallejo. Either way, good to see you in the amateur section.

Chauncy · Post by **Chauncy** » 11 Oct 2007, 00:52

Kolya wrote:Hey Chauncy, good to see someone else from the Northwest area on here. Which gym in Spokane do you usually work out at? Should be fighting there in November I think; Howard St. is putting on some sub-novice tournament and I'm looking to get a non-tournament match. I think you might have worked with a guy I know, Jesus Vallejo. Either way, good to see you in the amateur section.

Great to be here.

Our gym is Spokane Boxing, located on Sprague and Magnolia.
Jesus is staying with me now while he's in town. Where you come out of?

Kolya · Post by **Kolya** » 11 Oct 2007, 12:31

Bozeman, MT. I fought a guy from Spokane Boxing all the way back in January in my first fight of the year when I fought in Spokane. Didn't do too well then.

But yeah, I know Jesse, one of my gym partners and teammates is good friends with him from Great Falls.

Kolya · Post by **Kolya** » 12 Oct 2007, 03:33

verballistic wrote:
Dennis wrote:His amateur background might not be that extensive, but he is doing very well as a pro.
isnt it rather unusual for a guy who leaves the amateur ranks as early as chad dawson did to do that well in the pro ranks? chad was just a month past his 19th birthday when he turned pro in 8/01!!

when i compare him with other fighters who left the amateurs as a teenager he seems to be a rare breed, compared to someone like world cadet champ denis boytsov who turned pro at 18 and is still fighting scrubs after nearly 20 pro bouts!!

even the more high-profile success stories like naseem hamed, who made alot of money, but his early exit to the pros left him with a glaring lack of polished boxing skills, which ultimately led to his premature retirement at age 28!! :(

Denis Boytsov also had some VERY severe medical issues in his past and wasn't anywhere near fully grown when he turned pro; and he turned pro with Universum, who's very cautious with their fighters.

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 12 Oct 2007, 06:50

verballistic wrote:isnt it rather unusual for a guy who leaves the amateur ranks as early as chad dawson did to do that well in the pro ranks?(

Mike Tyson and Ricky Hatton didn't do too bad.

Seriously, while the international amateur experience gives a boxer an important advantage when he turns pro there are many examples of boxers who did well with little or no amateur experience.

I'm surprised the japanese do that well in pro boxing when they haven't won an olympic medal since 1968! Their boxers use to turn pro with only a handful of amateur fights and they are ususally fighting for world titles with less than 15-20 bouts.

Another country which produces good pro boxers is Panama who haven't qualified an olympic boxer for ages. There are conflicts between their amateur and pro federations and they hardly participate at international level which forces their boxers to turn pro at a very young age.

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 13 Oct 2007, 09:40

You're probably right about the japanese. Anyway I find it strange they actually have some good pro boxers as I've never seen any amateur of note.
I'm not from Panama, I'm from Argentina. But I read about the Panamanian situation and they have a lot of activity in pro boxing now but they seem to not have an amateur program at all. They probably won't even attend the Chicago Worlds this year.

Kolya · Post by **Kolya** » 13 Oct 2007, 15:41

verballistic wrote:
Kolya wrote:
verballistic wrote: isnt it rather unusual for a guy who leaves the amateur ranks as early as chad dawson did to do that well in the pro ranks? chad was just a month past his 19th birthday when he turned pro in 8/01!!

when i compare him with other fighters who left the amateurs as a teenager he seems to be a rare breed, compared to someone like world cadet champ denis boytsov who turned pro at 18 and is still fighting scrubs after nearly 20 pro bouts!!

even the more high-profile success stories like naseem hamed, who made alot of money, but his early exit to the pros left him with a glaring lack of polished boxing skills, which ultimately led to his premature retirement at age 28!! :(
Denis Boytsov also had some VERY severe medical issues in his past and wasn't anywhere near fully grown when he turned pro; and he turned pro with Universum, who's very cautious with their fighters.
thanks for that...any idea what kind of health/injury problem...brittle hands, bad knees...?

No, he had very major heart surgery when he was like 16 or 17 I think and when he was 5 or 6 spent a year laid up in bed with a bad back injury.

Tuff Customer · Post by **Tuff Customer** » 18 Oct 2007, 21:31

If the Amateurs can get back on track the Pros can make a comeback.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 18 Oct 2007, 21:37

Unfortunately, the Average Boxing Fan (ABF) does not care for amateur boxing - not enough blood and pounding. The only way there could be the slightest spark of interest is if amateur boxing was shown live by one of the national TV stations during prime time, evenings and or weekends. Frankly, I don't see this happening. Pro boxing will have to revive itself.