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Hey guys,

This may be a bit of topic, but I was wondering if any one
has any stories of famous or near famous boxers having to
use there talents outside of the ring...

tales, anecdotes or legend will do :")

Thanks again

Kym

Jack Dempsey slugged two guys who tried to mug him in Manhattan when he was about 70.

Sonny Liston dumped a police officer in a garbage pale.

I don't know all the details behind it but I've heard stories about Larry Holmes jumping over a car trying to karate kick Trevor Berbick? Someone would have to fill me in on that.

Tyson punched out Mitch Green when Green confronted him on the street. Apparently Green didn't get paid in full or something along those lines for their fight and Green took it up with Tyson. That, of course, wasn't Tyson's only fight outside the ring, but that I guess is his most famous.

Larry Holmes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-XVCW95nHU

Thanks

Berbick was talking shit on Holmes's wife right?

Yes.

A few others from memory:

Jeff Fenech apparently laid out a 225lb bouncer in Atlantic City.

Shannon Briggs congratulated Jorge Luis Gonzales on a win and Gonzales slapped him around the face.

Eddie Futch knocked out some bloke who was giving him some cheek in a parking lot when he was well into his 70's.

Mike Tyson vs Mitch Green

From a British angle....British featherweight title contender Lennie "The Lion" Williams (Welsh fighter, big puncher. from the 1960s era) is rumoured to have been attacked by a thug one night a few years back. The thug apparently thought Lennie was just a small old guy but is said to have suffered multiple jaw fracture after getting tagged with Lennie's favourite punch, the left hook. So the story hoes anyway, not sure if it's true.

J

One of my favorites is Mike Tyson supposedly laying out a shit-talking Wesley Snipes in a men's bathroom of a club in the early 1990s.

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Phyloe Bedo was pretty good on the street.

Flump wrote:A few others from memory:

Eddie Futch knocked out some bloke who was giving him some cheek in a parking lot when he was well into his 70's.

Horsesh*t.

Slimey Eddie Fitch also claimed he knocked down Kid Gavilan.

Sugar Ray Robinson in his prime couldn't knock down Kid Gavilan in two bitter fights they had.

Futch also told how he handled Joe Louis in gym workouts (once Louis was no longer alive to comment).

Futch was a horsesh*t artist and the clueless media lapped up every word he said in his disgusting and unrelenting sales pitch for himself.

dempseyfire wrote:One of my favorites is Mike Tyson supposedly laying out a shit-talking Wesley Snipes in a men's bathroom of a club in the early 1990s.

This is probably an urban myth arising from the Mitch Green incident. I do know that the Gotti organisation hired Snipes to glare at jurors during John Gotti's last trial. Police who saw what was going on spoke to the Prosecutor who informed the judge who directed that Snipes be ejected from the Court. Tough guy left without a murmur, "Teflon Don" was convicted.

Flump wrote:A few others from memory:

Jeff Fenech apparently laid out a 225lb bouncer in Atlantic City.

Shannon Briggs congratulated Jorge Luis Gonzales on a win and Gonzales slapped him around the face.

Eddie Futch knocked out some bloke who was giving him some cheek in a parking lot when he was well into his 70's.

Fenech got into a lost of fights out of the ring. He has an unfortunate choice of friends he goes to bat for. He was convicted once of assaulting a greengrocer because one of his "friends" asked him to.

Brute wrote:

dempseyfire wrote:One of my favorites is Mike Tyson supposedly laying out a shit-talking Wesley Snipes in a men's bathroom of a club in the early 1990s.

This is probably an urban myth arising from the Mitch Green incident. I do know that the Gotti organisation hired Snipes to glare at jurors during John Gotti's last trial. Police who saw what was going on spoke to the Prosecutor who informed the judge who directed that Snipes be ejected from the Court. Tough guy left without a murmur, "Teflon Don" was convicted.

Tyson would have killed Snipes if he hit him once.

DaveV17 wrote:Here is one.

"MIAMI - Former heavyweight boxer Shannon Briggs was ordered to pay $2 million to former University of Miami lineman Brian Stinson for breaking his eye socket during a nightclub fight in 2001.
Jurors on Friday sided with Stinson, who said his football career was cut short because of the injuries.
"This was not a fight," said Stinson's lawyer, Ken Padowitz. "This was a brutal beating."
A doctor testified that Stinson has limited vision in his left eye. The player was forced to miss scouting camps and now works as a counselor at a university in Washington.
Briggs said he would appeal.
"I am a big target and people think I have big pockets," he said. "It was a football party and I was a boxer. I shouldn't have been there."
Stinson, 27, testified that he began chatting with an unidentified woman at the bar after he arrived with a group of Hurricane players. He said Briggs berated her and then cursed him, shoving him through a door into an alley. Stinson said when he tried to return, Briggs punched him.
"All I could see were fists, and it was awful," he testified.
The 33-year-old Briggs countered that he was leaving the club when a woman called his name. He tried talking to her but was rebuffed by Stinson and Miami defensive end Quincy Hipps. After some shoving, bouncers tossed Stinson into the alley. Briggs said Stinson returned and tried to tackle him."

That shows you, don't bring a football tackle to a fight with a pro fighter.

Trevor King was a good featherweight in Australia during the 1950s. Sometime after he retired he became a Salvation Army officer. Once, in his Salvation Army uniform, he saw two thugs twice his size beating up a homeless man. King went straight in and flattened both of them. From what I heard, the two thugs never lived down being beaten up by a Sally.

Jem Hall, who beat Bob Fitzsimmons in an early fight Fitz had back in Australia,

beat up a US boxing promoter (1890's).

In retaliation the promoter hired goons to beat Hall so severely and break so many of his bones that he could never fight again.

Billy Conn broke his hand in a fight with his brother.

As a result his return fight with Joe Louis was postponed until years later, after WWII.

Lew Jenkins had fights outside the ring.

So did Billy Papke, Jack Blackburn, KO Bill Brennan, Hatchetman Sheppard, Tiger Jack Fox, Rocky Graziano, etc etc etc.

Many mediocre level fighters have been hired as goons after their fighting days ended.

Brute wrote:

dempseyfire wrote:One of my favorites is Mike Tyson supposedly laying out a shit-talking Wesley Snipes in a men's bathroom of a club in the early 1990s.

This is probably an urban myth arising from the Mitch Green incident. I do know that the Gotti organisation hired Snipes to glare at jurors during John Gotti's last trial. Police who saw what was going on spoke to the Prosecutor who informed the judge who directed that Snipes be ejected from the Court. Tough guy left without a murmur, "Teflon Don" was convicted.

That was Renaldo Snipes.

My old stablemate, Pat Cuillo was a teak tough, talented lightheavy/cruiserweight back in the late '70s to the mid '80s. The type of guy who could've & should've had much more success than he did, but who's lifestyle prevented it.

Anyhow, due to problems with the law back home in our hometown of Lockport, NY, Pat hightailed in to Florida for a bit to train & fight for Angelo Dundee, then wound up in Jersey with Carmine Graziano. Where he began to fight under the ring moniker of "Vic Valentino".

So, anyhow, the night before Pat was set to fight contender Richie Kates in AC, he & another of Graziano's fighters ( whom I believe was Teddy Mann ) went out for a stroll on the boardwalk. Where they wound up running into a couple of or a group of would be tough guys. One of them a pretty big guy.

Words were exchanged, threats made & Pat put out the big guy's lights with a single right hand. End of encounter. The big guy's pal(s) took off. With ot without there now toothless pal, I don't know. And Pat & ( I believe ) Teddy went back to their hotel room.

Where they saw that Pat's right hand was bleeding profusely & now had a tooth wedged in between the knuckles.

Well, Pat didn't want to go to the hospital & have to deal with the inquiries & risk being forced to pull out of the Kates fight. So, the crazy bastard dug the tooth out himself & then proceeded to stitch up his own hand with a sewing needle & some black thread he somehow got his hands on!

Fast forward to the following night & Pat's doing pretty good against Kates going into the middle rounds. Infact, in the fifth he apparently had Kates in some trouble & all busted up as his face was a mask of blood. So, the ref took Kates over to the ringside physician to inspect the damage & upon wiping the bllood away, they couldn't find a cut.

So, the action resumes & once again, Kate's face is covered in blood.
Again, the ref stops the action, gives Kates a good look, doesn't find a cut, then looks over to where Pat's standing & sees blood rapidly dripping out of his sodden glove, spattering the canvas.

He has Carmine Graziano pull Pat's glove off & blood just pours out of it. Fight's stopped. Winner by fifth round TKO due to a cut HAND, Richie Kates.

:P

Ray "Mustard" Coleman was an Australian Featherweight Champion in the 1950s who became an alcoholic and thief after his retirement. He felt badly done by fom a fight he had with Jimmy Carruthers before Caruthers won the World Bantamweight Championship. Sometime after both were retired Carruthers owned and ran The Bells Hotel on Sydney's waterfront. Coleman went in there one day and began taunting Carruthers in an effort to get Carruthers to fight him. Running out of taunts, Ray turned to leave saying "Marie's only a slut, anyway." Marie Carruthers was Jimmy's wife. Carruthers jumped the bar and both men headed to The Domain, an area of parkland near the Sydney Art Gallery. Soon a crowd of thousands gathered (including Police sent to prevent the fight) and they duked it out until Ray was KOed.

Jimmy 2, Ray 0.