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Is now ranked 15 by the WBC and 8 by the WBO. I'd love to see the Norwich nutcase in with either Enzo or Haye.

Far too risky..Hide will have to beat a top contender before they let him anywhere near Hayes and Macs chin...

What a fight that would have been..beats Sellars

wasn't there talk about Hide facing Fraggomeni for the European title!?!.....would love to see that

It would be explosive to see Hide against either Haye or Maccarinelli, but I doubt his chin could stand up their bombs long enough to deliver his own.

Pretty sure I read about Hide and Fraggomeni too.

Would be very interesting!

If Hide took on Frag I would be convinced by the promis of his come back. Doubt the Enzo or Haye fight would happen cos Haye is moving up in weight and I don't think Hide is allowed to fight in the UK becuase there is a warrent for his arrest.

Still much luck to him he's always exciting to watch. I could see Haye wanting the fight as a former champion would look good when he moves up the HW.

Syntax Error wrote:but I doubt his chin could stand up their bombs long enough to deliver his own.

Can't see your logic there, it takes less than a second to throw a punch. Haye, Hide and Enzo are all monstruous punchers whoever lands the BIG bomb first wins

Chambers2 wrote:

Syntax Error wrote:but I doubt his chin could stand up their bombs long enough to deliver his own.

Can't see your logic there, it takes less than a second to throw a punch. Haye, Hide and Enzo are all monstruous punchers whoever lands the BIG bomb first wins

I think they have better chins than Hide has.

I believe that Haye & Macca have a better chance of surviving a Hide bomb, than Hide would have of surviving theirs.

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Chambers2 wrote:

Syntax Error wrote:but I doubt his chin could stand up their bombs long enough to deliver his own.

Can't see your logic there, it takes less than a second to throw a punch. Haye, Hide and Enzo are all monstruous punchers whoever lands the BIG bomb first wins

I think they have better chins than Hide has.

I believe that Haye & Macca have a better chance of surviving a Hide bomb, than Hide would have of surviving theirs.

I think they both have better defence than Hide. Particularly with Haye's jab now I've said it before on hear you can tell he worked on it with lewis it realy looks like it hurts the other guys.

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Chambers2 wrote:

Syntax Error wrote:but I doubt his chin could stand up their bombs long enough to deliver his own.

Can't see your logic there, it takes less than a second to throw a punch. Haye, Hide and Enzo are all monstruous punchers whoever lands the BIG bomb first wins

I think they have better chins than Hide has.

I believe that Haye & Macca have a better chance of surviving a Hide bomb, than Hide would have of surviving theirs.

Herbie hits hader than both of them and is a better fighter than both of them too.

He would knock the pair of them out, but Warren and Maloney wouldnt let him near them.

Same goes for Roman Greenberg, Hide, a cruiserweight, would knock him out in a round, but Greenbegs management are terrified of letting him fight anyone with a heartbeat.

KO Artist wrote:

Syntax Error wrote:

Chambers2 wrote: Can't see your logic there, it takes less than a second to throw a punch. Haye, Hide and Enzo are all monstruous punchers whoever lands the BIG bomb first wins

I think they have better chins than Hide has.

I believe that Haye & Macca have a better chance of surviving a Hide bomb, than Hide would have of surviving theirs.

Herbie hits hader than both of them and is a better fighter than both of them too.

He would knock the pair of them out, but Warren and Maloney wouldnt let him near them.

Same goes for Roman Greenberg, Hide, a cruiserweight, would knock him out in a round, but Greenbegs management are terrified of letting him fight anyone with a heartbeat.

How come you go out of your way to have a pop at Fight Academy in nearly every post, KO Artist ?? (John, is it?). What's the story morning glory? As a regular reader of this forum your posts have become rather tiresome.

I'm intrigued as you used to love name dropping about them previously and were a regular attender of Hobson's shows. What happened? Someone has clearly put your nose out of joint if you're slagging them off on a thread about Hide and Haye, neither of which Hobson currently promotes.

I think Haye would be too accurate for Hide but its conceivable that Herbie could jump on Enzo from the off and take him by surprise. I really hope Hide continues his comeback.

Hide has the weight of dig to knock either man out but lets not forget he is also massively susceptible to a decent shot himself.

Joseph Chingangu (who?) put him on queer street, Klitschko KO'ed him with a jab and he was up and down like a whore's draws against Bowe.

Hide is talented but seems to have a bullying mentality and can't hold a shot for toffee.

I would make both Haye and Macca favourites over him at this stage in his career.

4 fights in 07 and a world ranking but is he any nearer to a big fight? I hope so because he is so entertaining but I doubt anyone will give him a shot.

Too risky for too little reward.

Ben Carey wrote:

KO Artist wrote:

Syntax Error wrote: I think they have better chins than Hide has.

I believe that Haye & Macca have a better chance of surviving a Hide bomb, than Hide would have of surviving theirs.

Herbie hits hader than both of them and is a better fighter than both of them too.

He would knock the pair of them out, but Warren and Maloney wouldnt let him near them.

Same goes for Roman Greenberg, Hide, a cruiserweight, would knock him out in a round, but Greenbegs management are terrified of letting him fight anyone with a heartbeat.

How come you go out of your way to have a pop at Fight Academy in nearly every post, KO Artist ?? (John, is it?). What's the story morning glory? As a regular reader of this forum your posts have become rather tiresome.

I'm intrigued as you used to love name dropping about them previously and were a regular attender of Hobson's shows. What happened? Someone has clearly put your nose out of joint if you're slagging them off on a thread about Hide and Haye, neither of which Hobson currently promotes.

I think Haye would be too accurate for Hide but its conceivable that Herbie could jump on Enzo from the off and take him by surprise. I really hope Hide continues his comeback.

I'm not really bothered about fight Academy either way, and certainly do notsalg them off on anywhere near every post. By the way it is John, John O'Meara. I did go to a couple of FA shows but didnt feel they offered value for money. However, they were not shows that Greenberg fought on. In fact I have only been to one of his fights where he boxed quite well, incidentally.

I'm not going out of my way to slag anyone off. I feel that Greenberg falls into the category of a small HW who could conceivably fight Hide. Greenberg appears overweight, and I reclkon his best weight is below 16 stone.

Dont get me wrong, I feel Roman has talent, but his level of opposition has eroded his main asset.. SPEED

On current form I feel Hide beats him easily, but if Roman can up his opposion for a few fights an lose 7 - 10 lbs it could well be a different story.

Why are you so offended, Its only an opinion after all?

Anyway back to the main topic, do you thaink Hide could beat Haye and Macca?

KO Artist wrote:

Ben Carey wrote:

KO Artist wrote: Herbie hits hader than both of them and is a better fighter than both of them too.

He would knock the pair of them out, but Warren and Maloney wouldnt let him near them.

Same goes for Roman Greenberg, Hide, a cruiserweight, would knock him out in a round, but Greenbegs management are terrified of letting him fight anyone with a heartbeat.

How come you go out of your way to have a pop at Fight Academy in nearly every post, KO Artist ?? (John, is it?). What's the story morning glory? As a regular reader of this forum your posts have become rather tiresome.

I'm intrigued as you used to love name dropping about them previously and were a regular attender of Hobson's shows. What happened? Someone has clearly put your nose out of joint if you're slagging them off on a thread about Hide and Haye, neither of which Hobson currently promotes.

I think Haye would be too accurate for Hide but its conceivable that Herbie could jump on Enzo from the off and take him by surprise. I really hope Hide continues his comeback.

I'm not really bothered about fight Academy either way. By the way it is John, John O'Meara. I did go to a couple of FA shows but didnt feel they offered value for money. However, they were not shows that Greenberg fought on.

I'm not going out of my way to slag anyone off. I feel that Greenberg falls into the category of a small HW who could conceivably fight Hide. Greenberg appears overweight, and I reclkon his best weight is below 16 stone.

Dont get me wrong, I feel Roman has talent, but his level of opposition has eroded his main asset.. SPEED

On current form I feel Hide beats him easily, but if Roman can up his opposion for a few fights an lose 7 - 10 lbs it could well be a different story.

Why are you so offended, Its only an opinion after all? Do you really feel that Greenbergs level of opposition has helped hone his skills, or erode them? Do you beleiev that Greenberg, on current form, would beat Hide

Thanks for the reply John and I echo your sentiments concerning Greenberg. Re: FA, I don't have a lofty opinion of them either but seldom state it. In contrast my perception is that you are critical of them in the majority of your posts which is what intrigued me.

Ta.

KO Artist wrote:

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Chambers2 wrote: Can't see your logic there, it takes less than a second to throw a punch. Haye, Hide and Enzo are all monstruous punchers whoever lands the BIG bomb first wins

I think they have better chins than Hide has.

I believe that Haye & Macca have a better chance of surviving a Hide bomb, than Hide would have of surviving theirs.

Herbie hits hader than both of them and is a better fighter than both of them too.

He would knock the pair of them out, but Warren and Maloney wouldnt let him near them.

Same goes for Roman Greenberg, Hide, a cruiserweight, would knock him out in a round, but Greenbegs management are terrified of letting him fight anyone with a heartbeat.

I think people get a bit too nostalgic when talking about Hide. When was the last time he knocked out anyone approaching the quality of Haye and Maccarinelli? A fighter on the way up? Oh that's right, probably never. Herbie looks great when he can bully an opponent and if you just saw that first round of the Vitali fight, you'd consider him a major threat. Luckly though we all know what happened to him when he was almost hit by a jab in the 2nd. Hide is probably a threat but has been campaigning in such a low class he makes the infamous Roman Greenberg appear like the ambitious young heavyweight Secondsout would have us believe.

His record since Klitschko in 1999 is appalling

Lenny wrote: I think people get a bit too nostalgic when talking about Hide.

Agreed

Lenny wrote:

KO Artist wrote:

Syntax Error wrote: I think they have better chins than Hide has.

I believe that Haye & Macca have a better chance of surviving a Hide bomb, than Hide would have of surviving theirs.

Herbie hits hader than both of them and is a better fighter than both of them too.

He would knock the pair of them out, but Warren and Maloney wouldnt let him near them.

Same goes for Roman Greenberg, Hide, a cruiserweight, would knock him out in a round, but Greenbegs management are terrified of letting him fight anyone with a heartbeat.

I think people get a bit too nostalgic when talking about Hide. When was the last time he knocked out anyone approaching the quality of Haye and Maccarinelli? A fighter on the way up? Oh that's right, probably never. Herbie looks great when he can bully an opponent and if you just saw that first round of the Vitali fight, you'd consider him a major threat. Luckly though we all know what happened to him when he was almost hit by a jab in the 2nd. Hide is probably a threat but has been campaigning in such a low class he makes the infamous Roman Greenberg appear like the ambitious young heavyweight Secondsout would have us believe.

His record since Klitschko in 1999 is appalling

well then let's see if him being a CRUISERWEIGHT with power & speed will make any career difference...

Yep. Hide will always have followers because he can punch and he's as mad as shoe laces, but in truth he's done nothing with his talent for almost a decade.

He's just, as Lenny suggests, a vehicle for nostalgia.

with his opponents hes fighting,has he any ambition left.....cant see him ever gettin in with Haye or Macca,probely get sparked by a nobody then dissappear,always has the punchers chance tho....

Simply put Hide is a bully with the mental age of an 9 year old. He has never won a fight in which the opponent hit him back.

Haye or Enzo would knock Hide into next week.

Lenny wrote:

KO Artist wrote:

Syntax Error wrote: I think they have better chins than Hide has.

I believe that Haye & Macca have a better chance of surviving a Hide bomb, than Hide would have of surviving theirs.

Herbie hits hader than both of them and is a better fighter than both of them too.

He would knock the pair of them out, but Warren and Maloney wouldnt let him near them.

Same goes for Roman Greenberg, Hide, a cruiserweight, would knock him out in a round, but Greenbegs management are terrified of letting him fight anyone with a heartbeat.

I think people get a bit too nostalgic when talking about Hide. When was the last time he knocked out anyone approaching the quality of Haye and Maccarinelli? A fighter on the way up? Oh that's right, probably never. Herbie looks great when he can bully an opponent and if you just saw that first round of the Vitali fight, you'd consider him a major threat. Luckly though we all know what happened to him when he was almost hit by a jab in the 2nd. Hide is probably a threat but has been campaigning in such a low class he makes the infamous Roman Greenberg appear like the ambitious young heavyweight Secondsout would have us believe.

His record since Klitschko in 1999 is appalling

Agreed.

Just had a quick look the combined records of his opponents since 1999

110-112-8

What the hell has Hide done to gain so much respect on here? Fair enough 8-10 years ago, but now?

He's have his arse handed to him by KO in the first 4 rounds if he got in with either of them.

Mr Gunn wrote:with his opponents hes fighting,has he any ambition left.....cant see him ever gettin in with Haye or Macca,probely get sparked by a nobody then dissappear,always has the punchers chance tho....

Enzo and Haye would be far too much for Hide but as you rightly say he always has the punchers chance to cause the upset.

Hide may have a punchers chance and not having seen his come backs its difficult to say, although last time I saw him at HW he didn't have the footwork that took him to the top. I also think Haye's Jab is looking realy good he used it to put heavyweight Bonin on heby geby street which is adding a new dimention to him, his defence is looking pretty tight usualy now.