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Great fighters who stayed too long

Posted: 31 Oct 2007, 21:39
by allworld80
There are some big names that stayed too long and sorta make you feel sorry for them. Gatti comes to mind first. But what about the ones that can't seem to win a big fight anymore, like Judah or DLH? Or the ones that are honestly delusional, like Holyfield?

Posted: 31 Oct 2007, 21:50
by FinitoLopez
Floyd Patterson
Muhammed Ali
Tommy Hearns (fought just last year)
Evander Holyfield (only if he keeps going for 3 fights or more).

Posted: 31 Oct 2007, 22:00
by NYY2424
FinitoLopez wrote:Floyd Patterson
Muhammed Ali
Tommy Hearns (fought just last year)
Evander Holyfield (only if he keeps going for 3 fights or more).
Evander didnt stay to long because he actually did fight for the world title. Though like you said, he will if he keeps fighting, i think one more fight is to much.

Posted: 01 Nov 2007, 01:01
by Diamond WEAPON
FinitoLopez wrote:Floyd Patterson
Muhammed Ali
Tommy Hearns (fought just last year)
Evander Holyfield (only if he keeps going for 3 fights or more).
Julio Cesar Chavez
Meldrick Taylor
Joe Louis

Re: Great fighters who stayed too long

Posted: 01 Nov 2007, 04:07
by Jorge
tzyuforever wrote:There are some big names that stayed too long and sorta make you feel sorry for them. Gatti comes to mind first. But what about the ones that can't seem to win a big fight anymore, like Judah or DLH? Or the ones that are honestly delusional, like Holyfield?

Oscar continues to fight for the same reason Roy Jones does. Basically, those two do not want to go out as losers and be remembered a such. I am convinced that if Oscar would have beat Hopkins or knocked out Mayweather he would have retired on the spot.

Posted: 01 Nov 2007, 04:45
by FinitoLopez
Roberto turned out okay and won some titles. Actually he is pretty happy now. Quarry is a great choice. Its sad to see a guy go out like that. My last choice is Sammy Langford though the guy was blind in one eye almost blind in another and no one still wanted to fight him. One of the top ten or fifteen heavyweights of all time and he never one a belt. Now that is scary.

Posted: 01 Nov 2007, 09:56
by vman
RJJR.

Posted: 01 Nov 2007, 10:53
by pundit
Most.

Re: Great fighters who stayed too long

Posted: 01 Nov 2007, 11:03
by NYY2424
Jorge wrote:
tzyuforever wrote:There are some big names that stayed too long and sorta make you feel sorry for them. Gatti comes to mind first. But what about the ones that can't seem to win a big fight anymore, like Judah or DLH? Or the ones that are honestly delusional, like Holyfield?

Oscar continues to fight for the same reason Roy Jones does. Basically, those two do not want to go out as losers and be remembered a such. I am convinced that if Oscar would have beat Hopkins or knocked out Mayweather he would have retired on the spot.
if you watch the fight again though... you will see why alot of people thought Oscer won that fight against Mayweather. It was very close.

Oscer can keep fighting. He really never got beat besides Hopkins.

Posted: 01 Nov 2007, 11:36
by Andy Mac
Rick Dyer.

Who should never have started in the first place.

Posted: 01 Nov 2007, 11:37
by tony3
Joe louis. Watching him being pummeled through the ropes by a youthful Marciano is a terrible, terrible sight.

Posted: 01 Nov 2007, 11:38
by The Great John L
Novelty goat wrote:Quarry :(
Yes, Jerry and Mike both.

Posted: 01 Nov 2007, 11:53
by dempseyfire
tony3 wrote:Joe louis. Watching him being pummeled through the ropes by a youthful Marciano is a terrible, terrible sight.
At least Louis knew after that beating to hang them up, unlike Holyfield.

Chavez also went on fighting way too long, having several comebacks that were just unneccesary.

Posted: 01 Nov 2007, 12:38
by MP
Holyfield - no other fighter would've been given a title fight after only beating Lou Savarese. He just keeps getting crushed by people that he would've beaten 10 years ago.

Sugar Ray Leonard is another. All time great fighter, and still looks ok and sounds good, but his last couple of fights were just sad.

Posted: 01 Nov 2007, 13:33
by kevdeuce
arturo gatti, too many wars.

Posted: 01 Nov 2007, 13:34
by The Irish Assassin
Ric Flair

Posted: 02 Nov 2007, 18:38
by bobbyd
s.r leonard
s.r robinson
thomas hearns
george foreman(should've retired after the moorer fight)
ali
duran
benitez
archie moore
livingstone bramble
kid gavilan
emile griffith
arturo gatti
reggie strickland
julio ceasar chavez
marcus geraldo
jorge luis gonzalaz
johnnie tapia(needs to retire)


many more i could go on and on about but i gotta get offa the computer and eat my supper....heh!
8)

Posted: 02 Nov 2007, 18:58
by tony3
The Irish Assassin wrote:Ric Flair
PMSL :D

Posted: 02 Nov 2007, 19:07
by lights-out
Why mention DLH? You make it sound like the guy gets killed in his fights or something lol. He's the only fighter to this day to beat Mayweather on one judges score card. Doesn't sound too washed up to me.

:box:

Posted: 02 Nov 2007, 19:19
by Awesom-O
a better thread would be which great fighters didn't stay on too long.

Re: Great fighters who stayed too long

Posted: 02 Nov 2007, 19:35
by BoxBuzz
Decagon wrote:
NYY2424 wrote:if you watch the fight again though... you will see why alot of people thought Oscer won that fight against Mayweather. It was very close.

Oscer can keep fighting. He really never got beat besides Hopkins.
This is stupid. Mosley and Mayweather clearly won against De la Hoya. They were 116-112 type decisions.
Mosely second time out? You really scored it that way?

Posted: 03 Nov 2007, 01:22
by Jaclem
...ezzard charles' case is so sad. totally broke. fought way too long before he retired the first time, and then came back to fight some more. one of the saddest fights in boxing history was this former heavyweight champion and all-time great light heavyweight fighting a Dave Ashley in a ring in a high school gymnasium in a small community in Cincinnati.

Fought when he knew he was through. Money gone. Details too sad for me to continue writing about here.

Posted: 03 Nov 2007, 10:42
by kikibalt
pundit wrote:Most.
Agree!

Posted: 03 Nov 2007, 10:53
by Expug
Bobby Chacon.
"Schoolboy" had a hard time leaving the game .
He hung in there on heart but win or lose was taking big shots in every fight as his career wore on.
It cost him dearly in his personal life.
And now he is in real bad shape physicaly.

Posted: 03 Nov 2007, 12:27
by Ambling Alp
kikibalt wrote:
pundit wrote:Most.
Agree!
That's the best answer. The vast majority of great fighters fight too long. Many fight way too long.
It would be easier to list the great fighters that didn't fight too long.