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"If Mormeck wins, it's definitely a fight that can be made," said Maccarinelli's promoter allegedly.

"But if Haye wins, it's a bit more problematic because he's turned down big money to fight Enzo once before."

Rocky Balboa wrote:Forget allegedly Warren & Enzo. Haye has got a real figther in front of him come next saturday & David knows it! He hasn't underestimated Mormeck & I believe Haye will do the business & win the the title!

If he does, Haye will have achieved something that Maccarinelli hasn't doe in his career to date. Haye will have beaten 'The Man', proving himself to be the best cruiserweight in the world.

All this bullshit about how Haye has pulled out of a proposed bout with Maccarinelli once before, it's laughable. Allegedly Warren & Enzo are mugging themselves off. It's ridiculous.

During the Setanta broadcast on saturday, Steve Bunce & Clinton Woods were asked who was in a better position, Haye or Maccarinelli? Both said Enzo! I can't see how the feel this? Haye is fighting the legitamant Cruiserweight champ, forget all the other belt holders, Mormeck is the current NO.1 in the world.

When Haye beats Mormeck, I'd like Buncey & Woods to be asked the same question again!

Mario wrote:The only thing that stopped Haye - Macarinelli happening was allegedly allegedly.

Its unbelievable that one mans greed can stop such a fantastic fight yet he gets away with it time and time again. Both fighters wanted it to happen but warren insisted on options on Hayes future fights and single handedly stopped it happening.

If im not mistaken he did a similar thing with Froch who was all set to fight Calzaghe until he was offered a pittence and warren wanted 'options' on him too

101boxing wrote:

Mario wrote:The only thing that stopped Haye - Macarinelli happening was allegedly allegedly allegedly.

Its unbelievable that one mans greed can stop such a fantastic fight yet he gets away with it time and time again. Both fighters wanted it to happen but warren insisted on options on Hayes future fights and single handedly stopped it happening.

If im not mistaken he did a similar thing with Froch who was all set to fight Calzaghe until he was offered a pittence and warren wanted 'options' on him too

it is quite ridiculous how many times this thread appears, and every time the idiot brigade comes out and spins the same old tired yarn


this man speaks like buncey FACT. Could it be ......
haye turned down enzo, FACT.

enzo signed the contract for the the fight, FACT.

haye went to the states when he was supposed to be in a meeting in a london lawyers office to sign the contract, FACT.

FW has offered haye decent money TWICE, Enzo has agreed TWICE and haye has bottled it TWICE, FACT.

get over it people, mr haye does not fancy this fight one bit.

The Blade wrote:

101boxing wrote:

Mario wrote:The only thing that stopped Haye - Macarinelli happening was allegedly allegedly allegedly allegedly.

Its unbelievable that one mans greed can stop such a fantastic fight yet he gets away with it time and time again. Both fighters wanted it to happen but warren insisted on options on Hayes future fights and single handedly stopped it happening.

If im not mistaken he did a similar thing with Froch who was all set to fight Calzaghe until he was offered a pittence and warren wanted 'options' on him too

it is quite ridiculous how many times this thread appears, and every time the idiot brigade comes out and spins the same old tired yarn


this man speaks like buncey FACT. Could it be ......
haye turned down enzo, FACT.

enzo signed the contract for the the fight, FACT.

haye went to the states when he was supposed to be in a meeting in a london lawyers office to sign the contract, FACT.

FW has offered haye decent money TWICE, Enzo has agreed TWICE and haye has bottled it TWICE, FACT.

get over it people, mr haye does not fancy this fight one bit.

Rocky Balboa wrote:Forget allegedly Warren & Enzo. Haye has got a real figther in front of him come next saturday & David knows it! He hasn't underestimated Mormeck & I believe Haye will do the business & win the the title!

If he does, Haye will have achieved something that Maccarinelli hasn't doe in his career to date. Haye will have beaten 'The Man', proving himself to be the best cruiserweight in the world.

All this bullshit about how Haye has pulled out of a proposed bout with Maccarinelli once before, it's laughable. Allegedly Warren & Enzo are mugging themselves off. It's ridiculous.

During the Setanta broadcast on saturday, Steve Bunce & Clinton Woods were asked who was in a better position, Haye or Maccarinelli? Both said Enzo! I can't see how the feel this? Haye is fighting the legitamant Cruiserweight champ, forget all the other belt holders, Mormeck is the current NO.1 in the world.

When Haye beats Mormeck, I'd like Buncey & Woods to be asked the same question again!

101boxing wrote: it is quite ridiculous how many times this thread appears, and every time the idiot brigade comes out and spins the same old tired yarn

haye turned down enzo, FACT.

enzo signed the contract for the the fight, FACT.

haye went to the states when he was supposed to be in a meeting in a london lawyers office to sign the contract, FACT.

FW has offered haye decent money TWICE, Enzo has agreed TWICE and haye has bottled it TWICE, FACT.

get over it people, mr haye does not fancy this fight one bit.

101boxing wrote:

Mario wrote:The only thing that stopped Haye - Macarinelli happening was allegedly allegedly allegedly.

Its unbelievable that one mans greed can stop such a fantastic fight yet he gets away with it time and time again. Both fighters wanted it to happen but warren insisted on options on Hayes future fights and single handedly stopped it happening.

If im not mistaken he did a similar thing with Froch who was all set to fight Calzaghe until he was offered a pittence and warren wanted 'options' on him too

it is quite ridiculous how many times this thread appears, and every time the idiot brigade comes out and spins the same old tired yarn

haye turned down enzo, FACT.

enzo signed the contract for the the fight, FACT.

haye went to the states when he was supposed to be in a meeting in a london lawyers office to sign the contract, FACT.

FW has offered haye decent money TWICE, Enzo has agreed TWICE and haye has bottled it TWICE, FACT.

get over it people, mr haye does not fancy this fight one bit.

Terry D wrote:He gets them to sit comfortably, tells them to put their feet up, puts on some Kenny G, or Simply Red if he's feeling really funky, and then asks them if they want a cup of hot chocolate, they say "yes", Frank says "is Options Ok" and they storm out and cry to the press.

Autobarn wrote:Don't worry Max, it's ok to be a Warren cheerleader - this week

Seriously, I think Haye wanted it but they couldn't agree on terms. They couldn't agree or the terms weren't right so Haye went for the main title. He earned that shot when he blew away Gurov, and I hope he does well on Sat.

Whoever said Macca's not a world beater. That is wrong. He is a world beater but he sort of gets matched like a prospect. Doubt we'll see the BIG fights until Calzaghe's retired and Enzo takes over as Wales' main fighter.

I hope Enzo will be ready for when the likes of Hernandez, Alexeev and other top fighters come through...Taking easier assignments on occasion has proven not to retard Calzaghe's progress, so maybe hard work in the gym, the odd decent bout here and there, etc will enable Mac to improve until it's time to step up.

I prefer Haye's attitude - willing to gamble - myself. You don't have as long a career probably but it makes boxing more exciting.

josh fg wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7077960.stm

"If Mormeck wins, it's definitely a fight that can be made," said Maccarinelli's promoter allegedly allegedly.

"But if Haye wins, it's a bit more problematic because he's turned down big money to fight Enzo once before."

All reported as true without mention of options of warren's history of fcuking fighters from rival promoters.

Reading that you would almost believe he is fighting Mormeck so he can get away from Enzo, and supposing he does win it'll be a case of him running up to heavyweight I can see it already. It pisses me off how Warren is allowed by the media to pull this shit time and again.

Terry D wrote:

101boxing wrote:i think we are all forgetting the massive ego that comes with the man haye.

you just have to look at his appearances on (shit) talk show football AM, repeatedly getting his six pack out and flexing his muscles. the blonde bird helen chamberlain gave him a look that said 'what the eff is he doing? what a prick'.

the fact is that he really has proved nothing, whereas enzo has beaten a genuinely good fighter in braithewait. i may be forced to eat my words after the weekend, and good luck to the guy, but i would back enzo to the hilt against haye and mormeck.....the guy is class.

Yes, Haye is really breaking the cliche of boxers being wall flowers who only speak when spoken too.

Are you sure Helen was not looking at Tim Lovejoy?

Terry D wrote:

Max Molyneux wrote:I doubt whether Haye's side were really trying to make the fight and were possibly just doing a publicity stunt.

Surely Haye's people didn't want to mess up their mandatry shot at Mormeck as well to fight Mac? They would of lost Haye's WBC mandary position otherwise and Haye doesn't have time to waste making Cruiser because of building muscle too soon.

Not Intending to play favourites Incase anyone accuses me of being a FW cheerleader too.

How can it be a stunt? Sign for the fight and you, probably, lose your ranking. Fail to sign for the fight and SN can smear you without worrying about anyone pulling them up on it.

KO Artist wrote:

Terry D wrote:

101boxing wrote:i think we are all forgetting the massive ego that comes with the man haye.

you just have to look at his appearances on (shit) talk show football AM, repeatedly getting his six pack out and flexing his muscles. the blonde bird helen chamberlain gave him a look that said 'what the eff is he doing? what a prick'.

the fact is that he really has proved nothing, whereas enzo has beaten a genuinely good fighter in braithewait. i may be forced to eat my words after the weekend, and good luck to the guy, but i would back enzo to the hilt against haye and mormeck.....the guy is class.

Yes, Haye is really breaking the cliche of boxers being wall flowers who only speak when spoken too.

Are you sure Helen was not looking at Tim Lovejoy?

I would fancy Enzo against Haye, but not against Mormeck

I think Mormeck beats Haye AND Enzo.

classboxer wrote:To be honest i think Haye will lose to Mormack,Haye has very,very poor stamina,Haye looks the part and has charisma and well as A1 bottle(to fight anyone)

Hayes stamina is less than poor,he trains with weights

Haye v Big Mac is a British super fight after Hayes gets blown away in France

Big Mac Tko 7 over Haye


Big mac > David Haye

Chambers2 wrote:
I don't think Haye has got "very, very poor stamina" as you say he has. There may have been an argument for this after he blew up against Carl Thompson, but since then hes fought alot more patiently and his stamina hasn't been an issue, he even stopped Johanson and Fragomeni late on in their fights.

Haye sparks Mormeck and then hopefully he can fit in a defence (Enzo) before moving to HW, but I think he moves straight up irrespective of this Saturdays result