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Most shot fighter you have seen....

Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 11:12
by johnswan1
What fighters do you think have had the biggest falls from grace but still fought on when they were barely a shadow of their former selves?

Those that come to my mind are Gatti (v Baldomir & Gomez), Vargas ( v Mayorga), Jones Jr (v Johnson) and Tyson (v McBride).

Any more recently that have gone from world class to looking like somebody a club fighter would beat? I think out of this lot Jones Jr is the only one who can be excused as he went on to have another couple of wins.

Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 11:18
by Goz
I thought Honeygan against Breland looked so shot compared to what he had previously been.

Bowe in the Golota fights....

Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 11:35
by punchers chance
Riddick Bowe vs Billy Zumbrun

Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 11:37
by DavidPayne
One of Steve Robinson's last fights.

Justin Juuko over here last time.

Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 11:38
by Wales
Jukko was it when he fought gomez

Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 11:53
by oliverfennell
Wales wrote:Jukko was it when he fought gomez
Exactly what I thought when I saw the thread title. He has resumed his career in Uganda, too.

And Tyson against McBride. Even in defeat, he still looked dangerous against Williams, but against McBride he was a shadow of even the fringe contender he was a year earlier.

Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 12:07
by THEBUTCH
Pinklon Thomas against Evander Holyfield.

Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 12:39
by DavidPayne
Thank you one and all.

The fkker was like Richard Pryor in See No Evil

Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 12:41
by overhand_right
You're all wrong.

The most shot fighter of ALL time is officially: LEON SPINKS.

1994, Spinks collapses under a barrage of crude cuffing shots from John Carlo, who had no amateur fights and was making his debut. Carlo iced Leon in 1. :o

1995, Spinks handlers try bring him back by digging up light-heavy journeyman Fred (Young Sanford) Houpe, who hadn't even boxed for 17 years. He outpointed Spinks.

Beggars belief...

Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 12:43
by oliverfennell
overhand_right wrote:You're all wrong.

The most shot fighter of ALL time is officially: LEON SPINKS.

1994, Spinks collapses under a barrage of crude cuffing shots from John Carlo, who had no amateur fights and was making his debut. Carlo iced Leon in 1. :o

1995, Spinks handlers try bring him back by digging up light-heavy journeyman Fred (Young Sanford) Houpe, who hadn't even boxed for 17 years. He outpointed Spinks.

Beggars belief...
Never seen those fights, but I knew about Spinks-Carlo. Imagine beating a former world heavyweight champion in your debut!

Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 12:46
by chris s
Mike Dokes against Riddick bowe

Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 12:50
by johnswan1
That just reminded me of something. Who was it who fought for a world title on their pro debut? Maybe I am dreaming it but was sure I read about it somewhere. I remember it was an olympic medallist?

Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 12:54
by chief
Jukko was the first one ot come to mind but then I though of Ali vs Holmes - not sure it gets much worse than that....

:box:

Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 12:56
by Podmore_Birmingham
johnswan1 wrote:That just reminded me of something. Who was it who fought for a world title on their pro debut? Maybe I am dreaming it but was sure I read about it somewhere. I remember it was an olympic medallist?
Pete Rademacher, who decked Floyd Patterson in a world heavyweight title crack on his paid debut. He won gold at the the 1956 Olympics.

Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 12:56
by overhand_right
oliverfennell wrote: Never seen those fights, but I knew about Spinks-Carlo. Imagine beating a former world heavyweight champion in your debut!
The Carlo fight was filmed from ringside. The tape makes for more disturbing viewing than The Exorcist.

Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 12:56
by DavidPayne
Peter Rademacher versus Floyd Patterson, in I think 1957.

He floored Patterson before losing in 7?

Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 12:58
by johnswan1
Podmore_Birmingham wrote:
johnswan1 wrote:That just reminded me of something. Who was it who fought for a world title on their pro debut? Maybe I am dreaming it but was sure I read about it somewhere. I remember it was an olympic medallist?
Pete Rademacher, who decked Floyd Patterson in a world heavyweight title crack on his paid debut. He won gold at the the 1956 Olympics.
That's the one. :TU: Was beginning to get frustrated there as I trawled through the records and internet searches.

Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 12:59
by DavidPayne
maybe it was later than 57...seems too early, 1961?

Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 13:00
by DavidPayne
Nope I was right 57.

Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 13:01
by johnswan1
It would be the equivalent of Audley Harrison taking on Lennox Lewis back in 2001 in between the two Rahman fights.

Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 13:21
by TheGoods
Justin Juuko v Gomez is first thing I thought when saw thread. He was SCARILY shot to shit.

Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 13:30
by ebeneezer
Stanley Ketchel

Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 13:31
by nickd
Luisito Espinosa from 2000 onwards.

Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 14:26
by revporl
Ali against Holmes, it has to be.

Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 15:38
by rooney
esham pickering loooks very shot