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Brits who have upset the odds in America?
Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 13:19
by TheGoods
Hatton is a 2/1 'dog' on Saturday but how many other Brits have upset the odds on foreign soil?
Honeyghan of course (not sure what price he was v Curry as was only a nipper).
Stracey - Napoles? (agin no idea about odds for that one)
Any others?
Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 13:25
by oliverfennell
Danny Williams
Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 13:33
by TheGoods
Great shout. Williams was 20/1 as I remember
Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 13:44
by Scrap
Jack Berg Beating Kid Chocolate
Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 13:48
by Bard of Boxrec
williams was 20/1? are you on drugs?
Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 16:09
by Old bones Ian
Scrap wrote:Jack Berg Beating Kid Chocolate
you bugger , i was going to say that one.
Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 16:13
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
Benn-Barkley?
Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 16:20
by BunglesFingers
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Benn-Barkley?
Not sure about that one, I always thought Benn was well fancied that night?
Think he may have been underdog vs DeWitt
Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 16:35
by Poncey
Boxing Monthly have a pretty good list of them.
Didn't have Ingle though, would you ay he was an underdog against Jones?
Re: Brits who have upset the odds in America?
Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 16:35
by MightyWarrior
TheGoods wrote:Hatton is a 2/1 'dog' on Saturday but how many other Brits have upset the odds on foreign soil?
Honeyghan of course (not sure what price he was v Curry as was only a nipper).
Stracey - Napoles? (agin no idea about odds for that one)
Any others?
Honeyghan was a huge underdog v Curry, Lloyd was seen as a pretty much run of the mill Brit, while Curry was ranked as world P4P #2, behind Hagler, and a lot of people reckoned he was #1. Odds might have been as much as 20-1?
Lloyd upset the odds in Italy as well, KOing favored Euro king Rossi.
Colin Jones nearly pulled it off in the USA, and looked unlucky to only get a draw against favored Milt McCrory.
And David Haye of course.
Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 16:36
by MightyWarrior
Plus Alan Minter of course, pulling off a brilliant win over undisputed middle champ Vito Antuofermo.
Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 17:50
by dr_devious
Not quite America, but Ken Buchanan beating Ismael Laguna for the lightweight title is a great win for a Brit abroad - Laguna was very highly rated back in the day
Posted: 05 Dec 2007, 21:05
by Arbachakov
Beating an excellent fighter like laguna in the blistering heat really puts into perspective McGuigan failing against ordinary Cruz.
Buchanan was a monster and really unlucky to be around at the same time as Duran.
Posted: 06 Dec 2007, 01:55
by jimglen
McAvoy vs. Risko the world MW champion, 1st rnd KO - Ring Magazine reports Jock McAvoy 'destroys' MW champion falling him 6 times in just over 2mins...
this fight was so much a shock to the Americans that ol' Jock was denied a shot at the title, yet they let him go for the L-HW title against none other than John Henry Lewis which he did over the distance, being the much, much smaller man about 4 inches shorter.
anyway given the era, I think Mac's destruction of Risko and excellent showing against John Henry Lewis supersedes many of those that followed him.
Posted: 06 Dec 2007, 02:14
by Neri
Riddick Blowe wrote:williams was 20/1? are you on drugs?
I got 8/1
Posted: 06 Dec 2007, 05:55
by oliverfennell
Neri wrote:Riddick Blowe wrote:williams was 20/1? are you on drugs?
I got 8/1
Maybe it was 8-1 Williams, 1-20 Tyson, something like that. Odds fluctuate, too. I don't think I ever saw Danny as high as 20-1, but certainly he was in double figures at some stage.
Has there ever been a "great" fighter who lost in more HUGE upsets than Tyson?
Douglas 42-1
Holyfield I 25-1
Williams (as above)
McBride (don't know the odds but must have been damn big)
Posted: 06 Dec 2007, 05:57
by Greg Nicholas
Nigel was a massive underdog against DeWitt (who was in the best form of his career against Robbie Sims and Matthew Hilton), he smashed him to pieces, ofcourse..
Posted: 06 Dec 2007, 06:14
by punchers chance
Arbachakov wrote:Beating an excellent fighter like laguna in the blistering heat really puts into perspective McGuigan failing against ordinary Cruz.
Buchanan was a monster and really unlucky to be around at the same time as Duran.
I’m not trying to run down Buchanan’s excellent win over Ismael Laguna but that was in New York at the MSG during September so blistering heat would not have been a factor, whereas McGuigan had to fight outdoors in the Las Vegas desert in June, where it certainly was.
Posted: 06 Dec 2007, 06:15
by Greg Nicholas
And no, Benn wasn't really favored over Iran Barkley, everyone was saying he was going to get killed by going into Barkley's backyard..!
Posted: 06 Dec 2007, 06:29
by MightyWarrior
punchers chance wrote:Arbachakov wrote:Beating an excellent fighter like laguna in the blistering heat really puts into perspective McGuigan failing against ordinary Cruz.
Buchanan was a monster and really unlucky to be around at the same time as Duran.
I’m not trying to run down Buchanan’s excellent win over Ismael Laguna but that was in New York at the MSG during September so blistering heat would not have been a factor, whereas McGuigan had to fight outdoors in the Las Vegas desert in June, where it certainly was.
Arbachakov must be refering to the title winning effort by Ken in Puerto Rico - pretty hot there I reckon!
Posted: 06 Dec 2007, 09:57
by dr_devious
I was originally referring to Buchanan beating Laguna in Puerto Rico, not his title defence which wasnt such a big surprise as hed already won the first fight

Posted: 06 Dec 2007, 10:16
by Chambers2
Neri wrote:Riddick Blowe wrote:williams was 20/1? are you on drugs?
I got 8/1
I got either 8 or 7 to 1
Posted: 06 Dec 2007, 11:40
by punchers chance
dr_devious wrote:I was originally referring to Buchanan beating Laguna in Puerto Rico, not his title defence which wasnt such a big surprise as hed already won the first fight

my apologies.

Posted: 06 Dec 2007, 12:33
by boxingchat
Don't forget Kirkland Laing beating a good and prime Roberto Duran.
Posted: 06 Dec 2007, 12:35
by DavidPayne
I still shake my head when I think of Kirkland then vanishing on the pop for a year!!!!!!