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Hatton Didn't Lose
Posted: 09 Dec 2007, 11:20
by werewolf
The ref was on the payroll and wouldn't let him fight inside. That's teh bottom line. Hatton was manhandling Mayweather on the inside. I don't care what their crooked don king record books say, the fight was No Contest - and if things were really fair, the fight should be awarded to Hatton because he was in there fighting against two men, and the ref wasn't even putting on an act of being fair, at one point getting so anxious to earn his pay check that he deducted a point from Hatton for no apparent reason.
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Re: Hatton Didn't Lose
Posted: 09 Dec 2007, 11:30
by slapbangwhallop
werewolf wrote:The ref was on the payroll and wouldn't let him fight inside. That's teh bottom line. Hatton was manhandling Mayweather on the inside. I don't care what their crooked don king record books say, the fight was No Contest - and if things were really fair, the fight should be awarded to Hatton because he was in there fighting against two men, and the ref wasn't even putting on an act of being fair, at one point getting so anxious to earn his pay check that he deducted a point from Hatton for no apparent reason.
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Was it Cortez that sparked Hatton out?
end of thread!
Re: Hatton Didn't Lose
Posted: 09 Dec 2007, 11:33
by mattyp151
werewolf wrote:The ref was on the payroll and wouldn't let him fight inside. That's teh bottom line. Hatton was manhandling Mayweather on the inside. I don't care what their crooked don king record books say, the fight was No Contest - and if things were really fair, the fight should be awarded to Hatton because he was in there fighting against two men, and the ref wasn't even putting on an act of being fair, at one point getting so anxious to earn his pay check that he deducted a point from Hatton for no apparent reason.
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Cortez took a point because FLoyd's head was under the ropes when Ricky hit him CLEARLY in the back of the head, it's the ultimate no-no. Cortez was showing his face too much earlier in the fight, but he let them go from much of the last half. Ricky's tactics late in the fight got him KOed, not Cortez's deduciton.
Posted: 09 Dec 2007, 11:37
by WildWaylon
Even Hatton didnt object to the point being deducted - He made no excuses so why should you - Look I understand you being gutted but the fight is over and the right man won.
Re: Hatton Didn't Lose
Posted: 09 Dec 2007, 11:38
by Southpaw Stylist
werewolf wrote:The ref was on the payroll and wouldn't let him fight inside. That's teh bottom line. Hatton was manhandling Mayweather on the inside. I don't care what their crooked don king record books say, the fight was No Contest - and if things were really fair, the fight should be awarded to Hatton because he was in there fighting against two men, and the ref wasn't even putting on an act of being fair, at one point getting so anxious to earn his pay check that he deducted a point from Hatton for no apparent reason.
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Okay Smigga.
Posted: 09 Dec 2007, 11:53
by werewolf
WildWaylon wrote:Even Hatton didnt object to the point being deducted - ...
Are you f'ing kidding!? Hatton told that bought and paid for son of a bitch of a so-called referee to kiss his ass, not in words but by presenting his rear end to his face - one of the classic moments in boxing for me!
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Posted: 09 Dec 2007, 11:54
by Autobarn
Hatton did that to show that Mayweather had turned away.
Re: Hatton Didn't Lose
Posted: 09 Dec 2007, 11:56
by silkov
werewolf wrote:The ref was on the payroll and wouldn't let him fight inside. That's teh bottom line. Hatton was manhandling Mayweather on the inside. I don't care what their crooked don king record books say, the fight was No Contest - and if things were really fair, the fight should be awarded to Hatton because he was in there fighting against two men, and the ref wasn't even putting on an act of being fair, at one point getting so anxious to earn his pay check that he deducted a point from Hatton for no apparent reason.
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The ref was crap yes, but he didnt knock Ricky out!...
Posted: 09 Dec 2007, 11:58
by Bard of Boxrec
Hatton didn't lose the warmth of the British people and should now be sports personality of the year.
Hatton didn't lose financially because he made millions.
Hatton didn't lose his sense of humour postfight.
any others?
Posted: 09 Dec 2007, 12:00
by silkov
But I agree that Cortez was a big liability and spoilt the fight up to a point. I wasnt that happy when I heard that Cortez was the ref as I've seen him have dodgey nights before, but Ricky and his trainer seemed happy with him prior to the fight and Graham didnt have any complaints about him after the fight. To be fair Ricky was falling in and holding a lot himself, Cortezs main crime was breaking them up too hastily and being generally rather hysterical in there. The point deduction and him going into Hattons corner after the 8th I think was a disgrace.... all in all though I think he was overexcited rather than anything more sinister...
Posted: 09 Dec 2007, 12:03
by werewolf
Autobarn wrote:Hatton did that to show that Mayweather had turned away.
Don't be silly.
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Posted: 09 Dec 2007, 12:05
by werewolf
Riddick Blowe wrote:Hatton didn't lose the warmth of the British people and should now be sports personality of the year.
Hatton didn't lose financially because he made millions.
Hatton didn't lose his sense of humour postfight.
any others?
I want to see a rematch in the UK, and I want them to have an equivalent hired house referee and equivalent hired house judges over there, and a specially built nice SMALL ring, too - and then i want to see what happens.
That being said, Hatton is a great small guy, but a small guy nevertheless, and I don't think he should be moving up in weight classes.
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Posted: 09 Dec 2007, 12:09
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
Riddick Blowe wrote:Hatton didn't lose the warmth of the British people and should now be sports personality of the year.
Hatton didn't lose financially because he made millions.
Hatton didn't lose his sense of humour postfight.
any others?
Hatton didn't lose his tendency to dive in face first and get tagged in the way in
Hatton didn't lose his famous blue shorts
Hatton didnt lose his linear title at 140 because it was at 147
Hatton didnt lose his temper
Posted: 09 Dec 2007, 12:12
by JCS
Hatton lost. You guys need to keep these kind of Brits inside the Brit board where they belong :)
Posted: 09 Dec 2007, 12:19
by Autobarn
Hatton may have lost his PPV gig in the UK.
I mean, are we still expected to shell out £15 a fight over here?
Not trying to be nasty or anything, but it wasn't much of a spectacle until Mayweather unloaded late on...
Re: Hatton Didn't Lose
Posted: 09 Dec 2007, 12:24
by johnswan1
werewolf wrote:The ref was on the payroll and wouldn't let him fight inside. That's teh bottom line. Hatton was manhandling Mayweather on the inside. I don't care what their crooked don king record books say, the fight was No Contest - and if things were really fair, the fight should be awarded to Hatton because he was in there fighting against two men, and the ref wasn't even putting on an act of being fair, at one point getting so anxious to earn his pay check that he deducted a point from Hatton for no apparent reason.
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Are you on drugs? Calling for a rematch? He'd get knocked out again, it simply wouldn't happen.
Posted: 09 Dec 2007, 12:56
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
Autobarn wrote:Hatton may have lost his PPV gig in the UK.
I mean, are we still expected to shell out £15 a fight over here?
Not trying to be nasty or anything, but it wasn't much of a spectacle until Mayweather unloaded late on...
Don't think so, we'll have
'Ricky on the comeback at his natural weight' 'Can Ricky comeback?' 'Ricky still the best at his weight in the world' 'Ricky against fellow world champ'
Then theres 'the battle of britain' (wiiter) 'unification rees/malignaggi/witter/torres'
And mark my words a Pacquiao superfight won't be out the equation if they play their cards right. Juan Diaz too.
Posted: 09 Dec 2007, 12:59
by TheRiverCityHippy
werewolf wrote:Riddick Blowe wrote:Hatton didn't lose the warmth of the British people and should now be sports personality of the year.
Hatton didn't lose financially because he made millions.
Hatton didn't lose his sense of humour postfight.
any others?
I want to see a rematch in the UK, and I want them to have an equivalent hired house referee and equivalent hired house judges over there, and a specially built nice SMALL ring, too - and then i want to see what happens.
That being said, Hatton is a great small guy, but a small guy nevertheless, and I don't think he should be moving up in weight classes.
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mate, you must really hate ricky if you want to put him through that again.
he was eating straight shots all night, he did well to take so many of them! on the slow-motion camera`s you could see when floyd tee`d off they were landing flush and snapping his head back.
i doubt ricky himself would want to fight floyd again.
Posted: 09 Dec 2007, 13:19
by Autobarn
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Autobarn wrote:Hatton may have lost his PPV gig in the UK.
I mean, are we still expected to shell out £15 a fight over here?
Not trying to be nasty or anything, but it wasn't much of a spectacle until Mayweather unloaded late on...
Don't think so, we'll have
'Ricky on the comeback at his natural weight' 'Can Ricky comeback?' 'Ricky still the best at his weight in the world' 'Ricky against fellow world champ'
Then theres 'the battle of britain' (wiiter) 'unification rees/malignaggi/witter/torres'
And mark my words a Pacquiao superfight won't be out the equation if they play their cards right. Juan Diaz too.
i'd pay to see him vs Witter. Think Witter would do him with those right hooks and straight lefts.
I got swept up in the hype for ricky-floyd but before the fight was signed i hoped it wasn't going to happen. i mean, ffs, at the very least you should fight a malignaggi type, as some kind of preparation.
he shouldn't really have got this big fight after only 1 good showing (castillo) on the back of 2 bad ones (urango, collazo). they should've taken it easy and gone for someone like juan diaz, whom you mention...
Posted: 09 Dec 2007, 13:20
by JCS
Autobarn wrote:
he shouldn't really have got this big fight after only 1 good showing (castillo) on the back of 2 bad ones (urango, collazo). they should've taken it easy and gone for someone like juan diaz, whom you mention...
Hahaha, Take it easy and go for Juan Diaz? Wow. Are you for real?
Posted: 09 Dec 2007, 13:27
by werewolf
If nothing else, Ricky Hatton gave the world one of boxing's all time greatest moments when he told the crooked house referee to kiss his ass!
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Posted: 09 Dec 2007, 13:33
by Spud
What a load of b*llocks this thread is - lets not find little ways out of this - Hatton lost fair and square - to put it another way as long as he is a boxer he would have never beaten Floyd Mayweather - simple as he was not good enough and never was in the first place.
Now before any of you jump on my case - I think Ricky still is a top world class boxer - but as stated in other threads - Floyd Mayweather is a freak - he will go down in boxing as one of the all time greats of that I have no doubts.
Ricky's plan on how to beat Floyd is probably about the only way PBF was ever going to be beaten but quite simply Mayweather was too strong.
Ricky Hatton lost fair and square to the better man - for f*ck sake get over it.
Posted: 09 Dec 2007, 13:52
by johnswan1
werewolf wrote:If nothing else, Ricky Hatton gave the world one of boxing's all time greatest moments when he told the crooked house referee to kiss his ass!
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I think you may be stuck in your own Wonderland.
Re: Hatton Didn't Lose
Posted: 09 Dec 2007, 14:26
by n1ebf
mattyp151 wrote:werewolf wrote:The ref was on the payroll and wouldn't let him fight inside. That's teh bottom line. Hatton was manhandling Mayweather on the inside. I don't care what their crooked don king record books say, the fight was No Contest - and if things were really fair, the fight should be awarded to Hatton because he was in there fighting against two men, and the ref wasn't even putting on an act of being fair, at one point getting so anxious to earn his pay check that he deducted a point from Hatton for no apparent reason.
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Cortez took a point because FLoyd's head was under the ropes when Ricky hit him CLEARLY in the back of the head, it's the ultimate no-no. Cortez was showing his face too much earlier in the fight, but he let them go from much of the last half. Ricky's tactics late in the fight got him KOed, not Cortez's deduciton.
To be fair Matty Cortez had done his job by the second half of the fight by completely, if nothing else, distracting Ricky every two seconds, and that sickening familiarity of Ricky, Ricky, Ricky, Ricky.......bollox.
I swear at times the Rickster was taking shots to the ribs on either side simultaneously.....Mayweather on one side and that fr***ing Kojak lookalike on the other. There was more than a sense that Ricky was fighting two blokes in that ring.
Also can I give a big round of applause to Ricky's girlfriend who you could tell was genuinely perturbed by the ending.....you could tell right there that she follows him and not his money, not that anyone said she was or owt it was just a genuine show of emotion.............compared to the trashy, gold-digger -tart -looking sort that was jumping up and down like a mad person while a man was getting knocked senseless.
Posted: 09 Dec 2007, 14:53
by Autobarn
JCS wrote:Autobarn wrote:
he shouldn't really have got this big fight after only 1 good showing (castillo) on the back of 2 bad ones (urango, collazo). they should've taken it easy and gone for someone like juan diaz, whom you mention...
Hahaha, Take it easy and go for Juan Diaz? Wow. Are you for real?
i mean, take an easy 1, then go for a smaller guy