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I always said Hatton was not very good

Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 15:26
by StepinFetchit
Hello, I have never posted on boxing forums but always read along the years.
Now after being PROVED right i feel i am qualified to make comments after years of reading diatribe on Ricky Hatton and how "good" he was...usually from posters on British forums.

Hatton's lungingstyle was ok when he was fighting blown up lightweights & old men in his back yard with his hand picked refs that let him get away with fouling ect.

Now i read cry babies on British forums are complaining that Cortez didn't allow Hatton to use his usual wrestling tacktics....BOOHOO.

It was no surpise to me that Hatton got a nasty beating the first time he stepped up and fought a top fighter in his prime with a ref that didn't stand for his B.S.

Hatton is not even the best 140lb fighter in the U.K..never was....Jnr Witter is the man, so Hatton needs to drop this tough guy act...because IMO is nothing but a very lucky domectic level fighter that hit the jackpot.

Re: I always said Hatton was not very good

Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 15:31
by KO Artist
StepinFetchit wrote:Hello, I have never posted on boxing forums but always read along the years.
Now after being PROVED right i feel i am qualified to make comments after years of reading diatribe on Ricky Hatton and how "good" he was...usually from posters on British forums.

Hatton's lungingstyle was ok when he was fighting blown up lightweights & old men in his back yard with his hand picked refs that let him get away with fouling ect.

Now i read cry babies on British forums are complaining that Cortez didn't allow Hatton to use his usual wrestling tacktics....BOOHOO.

It was no surpise to me that Hatton got a nasy beating the first time he stepped up and fought a top fighter in his prime with a ref that didn't stand for his B.S.

Hatton is not even the best 140lb fighter in the U.K..never was....Jnr Witter is the man, so Hatton needs to drop this tough guy act...because IMO is nothing but a very lucky domectic level fighter that hit the jackpot.
I think Hatton is a lot better than you are giving him credit for, but he does have limitations.

I do agree with you that he has hit the jackpot.

I recall he earned about £7million for his WBU title fights and his Tszyu challenge, all on home turf.

And no doubt he has earned very well out of his subsequent fights

He must be wealthy and at a guess could have a net worth of £10m plus

Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 15:32
by Dioufy
Can you please tell me what a "domectic level fighter" is then?

Re: I always said Hatton was not very good

Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 15:34
by StepinFetchit
KO Artist wrote:
StepinFetchit wrote:Hello, I have never posted on boxing forums but always read along the years.
Now after being PROVED right i feel i am qualified to make comments after years of reading diatribe on Ricky Hatton and how "good" he was...usually from posters on British forums.

Hatton's lungingstyle was ok when he was fighting blown up lightweights & old men in his back yard with his hand picked refs that let him get away with fouling ect.

Now i read cry babies on British forums are complaining that Cortez didn't allow Hatton to use his usual wrestling tacktics....BOOHOO.

It was no surpise to me that Hatton got a nasy beating the first time he stepped up and fought a top fighter in his prime with a ref that didn't stand for his B.S.

Hatton is not even the best 140lb fighter in the U.K..never was....Jnr Witter is the man, so Hatton needs to drop this tough guy act...because IMO is nothing but a very lucky domectic level fighter that hit the jackpot.
I think Hatton is a lot better than you are giving him credit for, but he does have limitations.

I do agree with you that he has hit the jackpot.

I recall he earned about £7million for his WBU title fights and his Tszyu challenge, all on home turf.

And no doubt he has earned very well out of his subsequent fights

He must be wealthy and at a guess could have a net worth of £10m plus
Well as i said i have Hatton at #2 at 140 in the U.K...so for a fighter to have earned £10mil or whatever for being that good IMO is a pi$$take.

Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 15:35
by KO Artist
Dioufy wrote:Can you please tell me what a "domectic level fighter" is then?
Must be a bloke who beats his wife up :wink:

Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 15:37
by StepinFetchit
Dioufy wrote:Can you please tell me what a "domectic level fighter" is then?
Oh here we go....we have the childish/petty brigade on the double just because i have made negative comments about their hero....couldn't find anything wrong with what i had to say so climb back in your cot.

Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 15:39
by Dioufy
Hero? Are you sure?

Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 15:41
by yiddo14
StepinFetchit wrote:
Dioufy wrote:Can you please tell me what a "domectic level fighter" is then?
Oh here we go....we have the childish/petty brigade on the double just because i have made negative comments about their hero....couldn't find anything wrong with what i had to say so climb back in your cot.
Answer the question maybe?

It would give a much better indication of how you see Hatton's level.

For childish and petty, try reading your first post ever on Boxrec matey :TU:

Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 15:44
by StepinFetchit
yiddo14 wrote:
StepinFetchit wrote:
Dioufy wrote:Can you please tell me what a "domectic level fighter" is then?
Oh here we go....we have the childish/petty brigade on the double just because i have made negative comments about their hero....couldn't find anything wrong with what i had to say so climb back in your cot.
Answer the question maybe?

It would give a much better indication of how you see Hatton's level.

For childish and petty, try reading your first post ever on Boxrec matey :TU:
Answer what question?...how many times do i have to say i have Hatton 140 #2 U.K.

Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 15:47
by yiddo14
StepinFetchit wrote:
yiddo14 wrote:
StepinFetchit wrote: Oh here we go....we have the childish/petty brigade on the double just because i have made negative comments about their hero....couldn't find anything wrong with what i had to say so climb back in your cot.
Answer the question maybe?

It would give a much better indication of how you see Hatton's level.

For childish and petty, try reading your first post ever on Boxrec matey :TU:
Answer what question?...how many times do i have to say i have Hatton 140 #2 U.K.
You can argue he is number 2 at 140, but our current crop at 140 is hardly the normal is it?
You could easily argue that Britains 1 and 2 at 140 are both 1 and 2 in the world at that weight.

Give us a few more fighters that you think are domestic level(I will give you my opinion of a domestic level fighter...Martin Power)

Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 15:48
by thepocketrocket
Yeas, Witter has proven himself number One at LW, Hatton loses to the best fighter on the planet and is 'exposed'

Why are you lot giving this troll and airtime?

Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 15:57
by StepinFetchit
thepocketrocket wrote:Yeas, Witter has proven himself number One at LW, Hatton loses to the best fighter on the planet and is 'exposed'

Why are you lot giving this troll and airtime?
Ok, would you have had to admit Hatton was exposed as not being anywhere near as good as his hype if Jnr Witter would have knocked him out last week?

Because Jnr Witter WOULD have and WILL knock out Hatton if Hatton ever mans up and takes the fight.

Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 15:59
by Kilburn
zzzzzzzzzzz........

Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 16:00
by StepinFetchit
Kilburn wrote:zzzzzzzzzzz........
An obvious Hatton fan in denial.

Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 16:02
by Kilburn
Yeah.

Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 16:02
by StepinFetchit
yiddo14 wrote:
StepinFetchit wrote:
yiddo14 wrote: Answer the question maybe?

It would give a much better indication of how you see Hatton's level.

For childish and petty, try reading your first post ever on Boxrec matey :TU:
Answer what question?...how many times do i have to say i have Hatton 140 #2 U.K.
You can argue he is number 2 at 140, but our current crop at 140 is hardly the normal is it?
You could easily argue that Britains 1 and 2 at 140 are both 1 and 2 in the world at that weight.

Give us a few more fighters that you think are domestic level(I will give you my opinion of a domestic level fighter...Martin Power)
Gavin Rees

Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 16:02
by yiddo14
Still no other example of a domestic level fighter?

Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 16:04
by StepinFetchit
Kilburn wrote:Yeah.

Well go and see your doctor, he can prescribe you some anti depression tablets to help you get over your loss.

Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 16:09
by yiddo14
Rees is much closer to domestic level than Hatton, but I still feel he is above that level.

Come on, give us a few more(preferably not light welters)

Do you regard David Haye as domestic level?(some could argue he is Britains number 2 cruiserweight afterall)

Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 16:13
by StepinFetchit
yiddo14 wrote:Rees is much closer to domestic level than Hatton, but I still feel he is above that level.

Come on, give us a few more(preferably not light welters)

Do you regard David Haye as domestic level?(some could argue he is Britains number 2 cruiserweight afterall)
No David Haye is NOT domestic level, always thought he was true world class and would KTFO Enzo.

IMO a domestic level British fighter is someone who's boxing style & ability will come up short 9 times out of 10 when he meets a top American fighter in his prime.

Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 16:16
by Dioufy
But Floyd Mayweather isn't just a "top American fighter in his prime" - he's p4p the best boxer on the planet, and only Paul Williams in my opinion could come close to winning, and still, he would probably get beat as well - so is he just a domestic fighter then? Or is your Yankland naivety still getting the better of you?

Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 16:17
by StepinFetchit
Dioufy wrote:But Floyd Mayweather isn't just a "top American fighter in his prime" - he's p4p the best boxer on the planet, and only Paul Williams in my opinion could come close to winning, and still, he would probably get beat as well - so is he just a domestic fighter then? Or is your Yankland naivety still getting the better of you?
As i said would you Hatton fans be singing the same tune if it was Witter who KTFO Hatton?.....no i think you would have very little to say on the subject.

Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 16:18
by Dioufy
But Hatton hasn't been KTFO by Witter has he, so how can we make that assumption?

Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 16:19
by StepinFetchit
Dioufy wrote:But Floyd Mayweather isn't just a "top American fighter in his prime" - he's p4p the best boxer on the planet, and only Paul Williams in my opinion could come close to winning, and still, he would probably get beat as well - so is he just a domestic fighter then? Or is your Yankland naivety still getting the better of you?
Hatton din't just lose a close fight to PBF, he got taken to school and knocked out by a punch he never even heard of.

Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 16:20
by StepinFetchit
Dioufy wrote:But Hatton hasn't been KTFO by Witter has he, so how can we make that assumption?
Well let Hatton stop making excuses and prove us wrong or right then.