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Ruslan Chagaev

Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 05:05
by dondada
Super profile on the man by Eric Armit:

http://www.britishboxing.net/news_3039- ... story.html

Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 05:38
by bennie
Old man Matt Skelton celebrates his 40th birthday (well, he is 40 four days after the fight) with a stab at the WBA heavyweight title held by Ruslan Chagaev on January 19 in Dusseldorf.
It's a daunting task.
Southpaw Chagaev, an Uzbekistani based in Hamburg and a baby by heavyweight standards at 29, is unbeaten in 23 fights (17 early) in the wake of an amateur career that saw him win super-heavyweight gold at the world championships in Belfast in 2001 and lick Cuban great Felix Savon. He can fight. He won the WBA title with a close but merited decision over Russian giant Nikolai Valuev last April in Stuttgart, despite conceding 90lbs and a foot in height, and while illness has kept him on the sidelines since (Hepatitis B), he is fully recovered and raring to make up for lost time.
At 6ft 1in, the home-grown Chagaev, trained by the excellent Michael Timm, is not a big heavy but a strong, educated pressure fighter with a solid punch and chin. He can brush past the counters to grind opponents down, as he showed busting up Reading's Michael Sprott in eight rounds in 2006, or outbox his rivals with the right jab and quick southpaw hooks, as he showed against John Ruiz and the lumbering Valuev, 46-0 going in.
Given Wladimir Klitschko's highly suspect chin, Chagaev may be the best heavy out there right now.
To burly Skelton, who was only able to outpoint Sprott in a sleep-inducing 12-rounder at the 02 Arena last July. The Bedford bear barged into moody Sprott, smothered him, biffed away in the clinches (of which there were many) and even boxed a bit when he had to. It was enough to keep him winning; Skelton has lost only to Danny Williams in 22 fights, a loss subsequently avenged.
Raw and uncompromising, big Matt has surpassed all expectations since turning pro at 34 in September 2002 - stopping 18 of his 21 victims since. He's heavy-handed. His chin is also good. Williams rocked him in their first battle at the ExCel in February 2006 - a man who flattened Tyson - but never looked like putting him over and settled for a split decision after 12 of the most foul-filled rounds seen in this country for years (Skelton has never been floored as a pro). But Skelton easily outpointed him in Cardiff five months later, although Williams came in at a ridiculous 20st 8lbs and could barely move.
"I think Danny trained for the same kind of fight he had in February, a bit of a brawl, but he got it wrong," said promoter F rank Warren.
So Skelton may be flattered by the Williams brace going into this other step up. He resorted to all those fouls in the first one, almost as if to disguise the skills gap, and had the second handed to him at the weigh-in. OK, he went on to beat Sprott, who had just sparked Audley Harrison - but Chagaev stopped Sprott. He also stopped Chesterfield's Mark Krence in five rounds in Germany, a man who went seven with Skelton and was never off his feet.
Chagaev dropped Krence twice.
Incidentally, the champion cleaned up a blemish on his record by flattening crew-cutted Rob Calloway in two rounds in Munich in January 2006. Chagaev had been on the verge of flattening Calloway when they first met in 2002 in Detroit but a bad cut over the American's left eye brought the contest to a halt in the third round and it was declared an unsatisfactory technical draw (shades of Williams against Oleg Platov recently).
Bottom line is, Chagaev, nicknamed "White Tyson", showed he could cope with a handful such as Valuev, so he should be able to cope with a handful such as Skelton, especially in Germany.
One has to favour the champion to come through.

Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 05:41
by dondada
Matt might even get stopped. Would be funny to see him win somehow though!

Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 05:41
by Wales
A valiant defeat could lead to further world title shots, as it has for so many enarly men in the HW division. Personally I think Chagaev will bust him up pretty good.

Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 05:43
by Old bones Ian
Just got me thinking can you get odds on a DQ win for Chagaev?

Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 05:45
by Wales
yeah, but its usually lumped in with KO/TKO isnt it? What odds on chagaev to win by KO?

Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 05:46
by TerribleTerry
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Matt might even get stopped. Would be funny to see him win somehow though!
With Chagaev's southpaw counter punching ability it wouldnt surprise me to see him find big holes in Skelton's game and stop the big fellar through an accumulation of shots.

I hope the Bedford Bear can pull out a victory but I would be surprised.

Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 05:54
by dondada
TerribleTerry wrote:
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Matt might even get stopped. Would be funny to see him win somehow though!
With Chagaev's southpaw counter punching ability it wouldnt surprise me to see him find big holes in Skelton's game and stop the big fellar through an accumulation of shots.

I hope the Bedford Bear can pull out a victory but I would be surprised.
Exactly my read, TT.

Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 06:49
by funso banjo baby
if a pumped up Danny Williams couldnt dent Skelton jaw theres no way Chags will


being in with Skelton is like nothing on earth....this will be new territory for Ruslan


im backing The big ugly bear all the way

GO GO Matt the cinderella champ :box:

Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 06:53
by dondada
funso banjo baby wrote:if a pumped up Danny Williams couldnt dent Skelton jaw theres no way Chags will


being in with Skelton is like nothing on earth....this will be new territory for Ruslan


im backing The big ugly bear all the way

GO GO Matt the cinderella champ :box:
Am I the only one who thought Danny had Matt in a bit of bother?

Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 07:00
by Goz
No I thought Skelton was rokcing against Williams.

I haven't seen Chagaev in action so I can't really comment but from what I've read and their records/tale of the tape etc it doesn't look too clever for Skelton.

But I guess it's mission accomplished with regard to what he set out to acheive when he took up pro boxing at age 34/35 whatever it was.

I didn't really think I'd see him in a WBA World Title fight and despite the poor state of the current Heavyweight crop that is what it is!

Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 07:53
by nickd
funso banjo baby wrote:if a pumped up Danny Williams couldnt dent Skelton jaw theres no way Chags will


being in with Skelton is like nothing on earth....this will be new territory for Ruslan


im backing The big ugly bear all the way

GO GO Matt the cinderella champ :box:
Chagaev is a league or two above Williams that much is obvious.

I'll be amazed if Skelton lasts the distance.

Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 08:33
by Max Molyneux
Chag wears them down to stop them. He;s better than Williams obviously but he doesn't have Danny's one punch power to hurt Skelton.

He will beat Skelton on points.

If this was Valuev Skelton could win though, that guy was horribly overrated and should of got a loss to Ruiz.

Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 08:36
by jamesmcdonnell
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:
TerribleTerry wrote:
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Matt might even get stopped. Would be funny to see him win somehow though!
With Chagaev's southpaw counter punching ability it wouldnt surprise me to see him find big holes in Skelton's game and stop the big fellar through an accumulation of shots.

I hope the Bedford Bear can pull out a victory but I would be surprised.
Exactly my read, TT.
Me too. I think that Skelton is going to be sorely exposed here. Chagaev throws quite a lot of shots, and Matt is taking a big step up in class here.

No offence to Matt, but Chagaev is much more skilfull than Skelton, and unlike Williams, isn't at the tail end of a long career, nor is he lacking in motivation.

Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 09:34
by Cap
A Chagaev win would be much better for the sport than a fluke win by a 40 year old going nowhere.

Cap