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Lennox Lewis Question
Posted: 30 Jan 2008, 09:16
by josh fg
This may be a realy stupid question with me missing something obviouse, however I'll ask it anyway: We all know about Lennox Lewis's two KOs vs McCall and Rahman, however did lewis ever get up off the deck to win a fight?
I couldn't think of a fight where he did so.
Posted: 30 Jan 2008, 09:21
by Poncey
Not as a pro. Maybe as an amatuer?
Posted: 30 Jan 2008, 09:26
by THEBUTCH
I would say he did in the Akinwande fight, but I don't believe the referee called it as a knockdown.
Henry clearly seemed to time Lewis with a good shot and Lennox appeared to dip and touch down.
Posted: 30 Jan 2008, 09:46
by chesh
THEBUTCH wrote:I would say he did in the Akinwande fight, but I don't believe the referee called it as a knockdown.
Henry clearly seemed to time Lewis with a good shot and Lennox appeared to dip and touch down.
He went staggering backwards early in the Shannon Briggs fight and - maybe - only the ropes prevented a KD. He came back pretty well in that one.
Re: Lennox Lewis Question
Posted: 30 Jan 2008, 10:42
by DG.
josh fg wrote:This may be a realy stupid question with me missing something obviouse, however I'll ask it anyway: We all know about Lennox Lewis's two KOs vs McCall and Rahman, however did lewis ever get up off the deck to win a fight?
I couldn't think of a fight where he did so.
As Holyfield said.
'Lennox don't bend - he just breaks'!
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Posted: 30 Jan 2008, 11:02
by Chambers2
THEBUTCH wrote:I would say he did in the Akinwande fight, but I don't believe the referee called it as a knockdown.
Henry clearly seemed to time Lewis with a good shot and Lennox appeared to dip and touch down.
Henry threw a punch in that fight
Posted: 30 Jan 2008, 11:07
by nickd
THEBUTCH wrote:I would say he did in the Akinwande fight, but I don't believe the referee called it as a knockdown.
Henry clearly seemed to time Lewis with a good shot and Lennox appeared to dip and touch down.
It hit him right on top of his head as I recall.
Posted: 30 Jan 2008, 11:08
by matko
shannon briggs fight was quality think briggs did hurt him if i recall lewis was lethal finisher as well lifted botha off his feet when finishing him
Posted: 30 Jan 2008, 11:17
by Poncey
chesh wrote:THEBUTCH wrote:I would say he did in the Akinwande fight, but I don't believe the referee called it as a knockdown.
Henry clearly seemed to time Lewis with a good shot and Lennox appeared to dip and touch down.
He went staggering backwards early in the Shannon Briggs fight and - maybe - only the ropes prevented a KD. He came back pretty well in that one.
Also in the Grant fight, between the hundreds of times Michael was eating canvas, he wobbled Lewis.
Posted: 30 Jan 2008, 11:34
by Carbo
I think somebody mentioned it earlier, but Lennox was definately staggered badly against Briggs. He was hit hard on several occassions and I remember one volley he took had him on queer street, with the ropes definitely coming to his saviour. (On related matter, why do referees so seldom give standing eights to fighters saved by the ropes?)
But anyway, Lennox could do it. Lets not forget, though, that despite what Vander says, Lewis was pretty hard to find at his peak. He had a long jab that could punish when he wanted it too, and all sorts of heavy, accurate punches to discourage those who were too eager to get close.
Lennox only ever lost when he was grossly underprepared. Unfortuately, that attitude would never have crept into Larry Holmes's regimen, and that's what keeps Lewis in the bottom half the greatest 10 heavyweights ever.
Posted: 30 Jan 2008, 21:33
by Goz
Matter of interest - did Tyson or Holyfield either?
Tyson didn't, did Holyfield suffer a knockdown in the Moorer remtatch which he won? I think he might have. Other than that I don't think he got up to win a fight, only to lose bravely.
Thing is with Lewis, he got flattened by two home run shots, other than that he dealt fairly well with any crisis that came his way.
Posted: 31 Jan 2008, 04:37
by Poncey
Goz wrote:Matter of interest - did Tyson or Holyfield either?
Tyson didn't, did Holyfield suffer a knockdown in the Moorer remtatch which he won? I think he might have. Other than that I don't think he got up to win a fight, only to lose bravely.
Thing is with Lewis, he got flattened by two home run shots, other than that he dealt fairly well with any crisis that came his way.
And people have to remember these are HW, not flyweights!
The nearest of Holyfield got to getting off the floor to win was Bowe 3.
Posted: 31 Jan 2008, 06:13
by overhand_right
You've all forgot his fight with Smokin Bert Cooper who had Holyfield OUT!!!
Oliver McCall said Cooper hit him so hard in sparring it was like getting hit by a truck. He rated Coopers 1 punch power way over Tysons

Posted: 31 Jan 2008, 06:16
by overhand_right
Sometimes i think you haven't watched these fights since the night they occured.
Akinwande was a light shot with the bottom of the glove, Lewis was just off balance. It was a flash KD at best. Rewatch the tape.
Briggs, if you watch, he hits him with a left hook but Lewis trips over Briggs feet which actually sends him falling backwards into the ropes. Rewatch the tape.

Posted: 31 Jan 2008, 06:54
by Poncey
overhand_right wrote:Sometimes i think you haven't watched these fights since the night they occured.
Akinwande was a light shot with the bottom of the glove, Lewis was just off balance. It was a flash KD at best. Rewatch the tape.
Briggs, if you watch, he hits him with a left hook but Lewis trips over Briggs feet which actually sends him falling backwards into the ropes. Rewatch the tape.

Hmm, I'll have to check the DVD again tonight but sure Briggs wobbles him. I distinctly remember Ian Darke commenting on it.
Posted: 31 Jan 2008, 07:08
by Datsue
Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:Goz wrote:Matter of interest - did Tyson or Holyfield either?
Tyson didn't, did Holyfield suffer a knockdown in the Moorer remtatch which he won? I think he might have. Other than that I don't think he got up to win a fight, only to lose bravely.
Thing is with Lewis, he got flattened by two home run shots, other than that he dealt fairly well with any crisis that came his way.
And people have to remember these are HW, not flyweights!
The nearest of Holyfield got to getting off the floor to win was Bowe 3.
As our excitable friend Overhand has mentioned, Holyfield was decked by Smokin' Bert Cooper. Got up to stop him.
As for Lewis, the Briggs one is difficult; physically he doesn't look too bad, hasn't lost co-ordination in his legs, but he had this sickly "Fvcking hell, that wasn't a tap" expression on his face & I think it was just weird to see such a big strong lad flap a bit when tagged. Much the same reaction Tucker & Holyfield produced when they caught him flush, maybe a little tremor/stiffness in the legs but a definite "Oh shit" look on his face which -- combined with his undignified scramble for the ropes in both cases -- made it look (even) worse than it was.