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Longshots who had the champ down....

Posted: 03 Feb 2008, 02:28
by Expug
But couldnt keep him there.

Jan 1969 HUGE underdog Frankie Depaula has Bob Foster down in the first round in a Lightheavyweight Title fight.
Foster gets up dusts himself off and pulverises Depaula dropping him 3 times for the stoppage.
Name a few that come to mind.

Posted: 03 Feb 2008, 03:24
by I Feel Fine
Have you or anyone here actually seen that fight? I have it on tape, and I only see the three times Foster knocked De Paula down, I don't see De Paula knocking Foster down. I always wondered if boxrec was making a mistake in its description of the fight, but perhaps I just don't have the full round.

Re: Longshots who had the champ down....

Posted: 03 Feb 2008, 04:01
by granberry
Expug wrote:But couldnt keep him there.

Jan 1969 HUGE underdog Frankie Depaula has Bob Foster down in the first round in a Lightheavyweight Title fight.
Foster gets up dusts himself off and pulverises Depaula dropping him 3 times for the stoppage.
Name a few that come to mind.
Bad example.

Foster was down from a push.

The New York referee ran in and called it a "knockdown."

Foster said to the stooge ref, "You're not going to get away with this."

He then knocked DePaula down three times and ended the fight.

The ref didn't do de Paula any favors by trying that garbage.

If the ref hadn't done that, Foster would have fought a slower fight to start and De Paula might have had a better chance to get his bearings.

Re: Longshots who had the champ down....

Posted: 03 Feb 2008, 05:54
by Goodnight, Irene
"...Foster said to the stooge ref, "You're not going to get away with this..." - Gran

:lol:

Posted: 03 Feb 2008, 06:52
by I Feel Fine
Ok so apparently there was some sort of a knock down, legitimate or not, of Foster. Thanks granberry, I knew I could count on you :TU:

Troy Waters Vs Terry Norris

Posted: 03 Feb 2008, 09:02
by Ross
Waters a limited tough hard punchng Australian is thrown in over his head with norris, and norris tears him apart but in the second or third waters hits norris and he goes down gets up and is out on his feet but waters cannot land another shot and the fight is stopped between rounds due to the face of waters comng apart from norris punces. was pretty excitin there for a while

ross

Posted: 03 Feb 2008, 11:52
by Broncano
Renaldo Snipes

Posted: 03 Feb 2008, 12:45
by BoxBuzz
Tzyu had Zab down, but couldn't keep him there according to plan. And even though Zab was dancing up a storm to prove to the ref he was fine, the corrupt ref called the fight. Zab warned the ref that he wasn't going to get away with it but in this case the corrupt ref got away with it.

EVERYONE saw Zab get up...EVERYONE knew he was breakdancing to make the point that he was just fine. EVERYONE on the east coast knew what was happening.

Posted: 03 Feb 2008, 13:00
by granberry
What Foster said to the NY ref was perfectly hearable right on the TV showing of the fight.

Foster was tall and had a deep voice.

Posted: 03 Feb 2008, 16:07
by dr_devious
Kevin Leushing knocking down Felix Trinidad

Posted: 03 Feb 2008, 16:10
by ebeneezer
granberry wrote:What Foster said to the NY ref was perfectly hearable right on the TV showing of the fight.

Foster was tall and had a deep voice.
Jimmy Young shouting "THIS FIGHT IS A FIX AND COONEY ISN'T HURTING ME!!" while half his face was mutilated was perfectly audible as well.

Posted: 03 Feb 2008, 16:48
by granberry
ebeneezer wrote:
granberry wrote:What Foster said to the NY ref was perfectly hearable right on the TV showing of the fight.

Foster was tall and had a deep voice.
Jimmy Young shouting "THIS FIGHT IS A FIX AND COONEY ISN'T HURTING ME!!" while half his face was mutilated was perfectly audible as well.
Is halfwit ebeneezer saying Foster DID NOT say that?

Posted: 03 Feb 2008, 17:23
by granberry
Archie Moore---Yvon Durelle

Tommy Loughran---Leo Lomski

Posted: 03 Feb 2008, 21:07
by Robinson
A few of Joe Louis opponents.

Posted: 03 Feb 2008, 23:40
by Ross
granberry wrote:What Foster said to the NY ref was perfectly hearable right on the TV showing of the fight.

Foster was tall and had a deep voice.

I never new that, and am grateful that you bought it to my attention as Bob Foster is one of my favorite fighters and IMO the greatest light heavy weight Champ ever. Yes better than Archie

I cringe when I read about Hill breaking Bob s record and now holds the record for most defences, if Bob had fought in the same pateticly weak opposition as Hll he would have made 40 defenses and he would have Knocked OUT Tommy Hearns (also one of my favorite fighters)

Ross

Posted: 03 Feb 2008, 23:51
by granberry
Ross wrote:
granberry wrote:What Foster said to the NY ref was perfectly hearable right on the TV showing of the fight.

Foster was tall and had a deep voice.

I never new that, and am grateful that you bought it to my attention as Bob Foster is one of my favorite fighters and IMO the greatest light heavy weight Champ ever. Yes better than Archie

I cringe when I read about Hill breaking Bob s record and now holds the record for most defences, if Bob had fought in the same pateticly weak opposition as Hll he would have made 40 defenses and he would have Knocked OUT Tommy Hearns (also one of my favorite fighters)

Ross
Hill lost to Hearns, as you mention.

That speaks for itself.

Hill could not have stayed 2 rounds with Bob Foster

Posted: 04 Feb 2008, 00:12
by dagosd2000
Maybe not a big underdog,but Charley White knocked down the great Benny Leonard with his big left hook only to have Benny get up to knock out White in the 9th round.

Posted: 04 Feb 2008, 01:09
by Marlin
BoxBuzz wrote:Tzyu had Zab down, but couldn't keep him there according to plan. And even though Zab was dancing up a storm to prove to the ref he was fine, the corrupt ref called the fight. Zab warned the ref that he wasn't going to get away with it but in this case the corrupt ref got away with it.

EVERYONE saw Zab get up...EVERYONE knew he was breakdancing to make the point that he was just fine. EVERYONE on the east coast knew what was happening.
On fire Buzz, that is funny!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: 04 Feb 2008, 01:11
by granberry
dagosd2000 wrote:Maybe not a big underdog,but Charley White knocked down the great Benny Leonard with his big left hook only to have Benny get up to knock out White in the 9th round.
Ritchie Mitchell also knocked Leonard down in a title fight.

So did Rocky Kansas.

Charlie White knocked Leonard down and through the ropes.

The ref was Leonard's ref and the stoppage of the fight some rounds later in Leonard's favor was disputed.

Charley White's left hook traveled about an inch, 2 inches at most..

He came close to beating three champions---Abe Atell, Freddie Welsh, and Leonard.

Posted: 04 Feb 2008, 01:48
by ringsider
When Kevin Howard had Sugar Ray Leonard down. :TU:

Posted: 04 Feb 2008, 02:23
by generic screen name
ringsider wrote:When Kevin Howard had Sugar Ray Leonard down. :TU:
U have to admit that Sugar Ray faced alot of badasses when he was in his prime.

Posted: 04 Feb 2008, 02:42
by I Feel Fine
Tony Galento, shorter than James Toney and just as overweight, not only knocked the great Joe Louis down but also had him hurt in the first round. In a post fight interview he called for a rematch, saying he would knock that "bum" out. That rematch never came.

Posted: 04 Feb 2008, 03:52
by HomicideHenry
Bert Cooper, when he fought Holyfield.

Chuck Wepner, when he fought Ali...but then again this is highly debatable, as many a picture shows Wepner stepping on Ali's foot at the same time of the punch. Nonetheless it was ruled a knock down.
Tony Galento, shorter than James Toney and just as overweight, not only knocked the great Joe Louis down but also had him hurt in the first round. In a post fight interview he called for a rematch, saying he would knock that "bum" out. That rematch never came.
Galento would later fight Lou Nova in possibly the best brawl of that time, winning by TKO in 14 rounds. He also said after that bout that he would "knock out that bum Louis", but it never came. To break up time inbetween the proposed Louis rematch, he fought Max Baer and was knocked out of title contention for the rest of his career.

Posted: 04 Feb 2008, 04:06
by Goodnight, Irene
I was just about to mention Holyfield-Cooper, but Homicide beat me to it.

Patterson-Rademacher?

Posted: 04 Feb 2008, 05:39
by granberry
I Feel Fine wrote:Tony Galento, shorter than James Toney and just as overweight, not only knocked the great Joe Louis down but also had him hurt in the first round. In a post fight interview he called for a rematch, saying he would knock that "bum" out. That rematch never came.
Pathetic att1empt by boxrec's number one Ali shill to demean Joe Louis.

Toney started his career with over thirty fights as a middleweight.

Perhaps ifeelfine can show us where Galento ever fought as a middleweight. Maybe when he had some playground fights when he was just out of grade school?

While he is grasping like this perhaps ifeelfine could include the near knockdown of Ali by overweight lightheavyweight Doug Jones 15 seconds into their bout where Ali outweighed Jones by 25 pounds even though Jones came in at a fat 188 pounds.