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Ray Leonard is hosting a program on the History Channel tonight at 8:00est. Something about the Hall of Fame. Showed clips of old fights in preview. May be interesting to watch.

bollocks wrote: Hope Leonard can manage to not use the word 'me' too often

LOL, I can see it now...

"Jack Dempsey might've been able to give me a decent fight..."

bollocks wrote:"Jack Dempsey might've been able to give me a decent fight...if only he would have come down to welterweight like i demanded"

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... and agreed to a 3 round fight in a 40 foot ring.

Just scene the show. There were really great films of Sam Langford I'd never seen before. Basilio vs Fulmer were great. All in all I think Leonard did a very good service to the boxers of the past.

Thanks wsbuf for the tip.would have missed it otherwise.Yeah, ther Langford footage was good and more than I'd seen before.

Re: Ray Robinson. Sadly, the only film known to exist of Robinson in a welter title fight is the one against Charlie Fusari, so that's why you may have wondered why Robinson fought all those blonde guys. Same one..just shown in different sections. He gave his purse to charity that night,and was charitable to Fusari as well, given an excellent boxing exhibition but obvious to the intelligentsia that he was carrying him, which helater admitted in his auto bio.

I saw the Griffith/Paret tragedy on live tv,andhave never seen it since, until this program showed the kayo. I understood the network held back from ever showing it and even heard, obviously wrong, that the film was even destroyed. Has anyone ever seen a replay of this before this History Channel showing.

Also, I THINK this was the last time Ruby Goldstein ever refereed a fight. If this is the fight I'm thinking of, he blamed himself for not getting to the corner in time, and some writers criticized him, saying he froze.

GOLDSTEIN DID FREEZE A LITTLE BUT PARET WAS ALREADY MARKED. BENNY HAD HEADACHES SINCE HE FOUGHT A DRAW WITH FEDERICO THOMPSON -WHICH LED TO TRAINER CARON GONZALEZ QUITTING HIS JOB WITH THE PARET TEAM, SINCE ALFARO -THE MANAGER- AND PARET HIMSELF SAID "ALL FIGHTERS GET HEADACHES." PARET WENT ON TO FIGHT FULLMER AND TOOK A HUGE BEATING. GENE SAID THE HARDEST HE EVER HIT ANYONE WAS WHEN HE FOUGHT PARET...SO BY THE TIME BENNY FOUGHT EMILE, MY FELLOW CUBAN WAS DAMAGED GOODS, A TIME BOMB WAITING TO DIE....SO GOLDSTEIN WAS NOT TOTALLY AT FAULT.

Jaclem wrote:I saw the Griffith/Paret tragedy on live tv,andhave never seen it since, until this program showed the kayo. I understood the network held back from ever showing it and even heard, obviously wrong, that the film was even destroyed. Has anyone ever seen a replay of this before this History Channel showing.

Also, I THINK this was the last time Ruby Goldstein ever refereed a fight. If this is the fight I'm thinking of, he blamed himself for not getting to the corner in time, and some writers criticized him, saying he froze.

I've seen a replay before, on some show about gay athletes I believe (it was discussing how Paret had called Griffith a "fag" before the fight). But I've had the complete fight on tape for quite some time.

As for Goldstein, I believe he refereed one more fight and then retired.

The Paret-Griffith fight was a trajady as any fight where there is a injury is. Ruby Goldstein may been looking at Paret's background as a come from behind fighter and remembering his recouperative powers his backing against the ropes and taking punishmant then coming off with flurries as in a earlier bouts , no one knew the previous damage he may have recieved in his last few bouts as in the earlier posts indicated. It wsa a competitve fight until the end Paret and Griffith did have some personal disputes as some fighters grasp on to give themselves what they may need. I've seen the Robinson Fusari tape isn't there a Robinson Armstrong tape somewhere?

I confess i was thinking the same thing about Paret's comeback powers and probably wouldn't have acted any faster than Golstein. So manmy punches came so fast before itr was obvious Paret's head was against the turnnbuckle. plus, Paret had Griffith down earlier in the fight.

Don't know of a Robinson/Armstrong tape. does anybody? Would be a real piece of history.Not a competitive fight as the Sugar Man was carrying his freind and idol.