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Roids...
Posted: 27 Feb 2008, 06:16
by STP
What percentage of boxers now, especially US and East Europe and HW, do you reckon are juiced up?
Even here. I have it on good authority that a champion fighter in Lancashire takes cortisone injections to assist his hips and elbows, apparently one of his trainers has connection with (Brian) Batcheldor or something.
Anyway, obviously very few are caught out... Roy Jones Jr, James Toney, Vitali Klitschko. But you'd need to be pretty naive not to know how easy it is to get the timing right and not 'fornicate up' as Mr Batcheldor likes to say.
Infact, according to Mr Batcheldor, who is connected to a boxing team up North, he's often had boxers 'visit him' down the years. Interesting.
Posted: 27 Feb 2008, 06:28
by boxingchat
Or have piles for that matter?
Posted: 27 Feb 2008, 06:29
by Old bones Ian
boxingchat wrote:Or have piles for that matter?
i had them so bad once, i was given steroid cream for them.
God knows what it did, but it worked.
Posted: 27 Feb 2008, 06:40
by E
Morrison said the majority of top heavies are, and frankly given the appalling drug testing in boxing it wouldn't surprise me.
You don't even have to look like Golota or McCLine to be a roider - even FRans Botha failed a test....
As for piles - I'm not sure, but according to a doctor there are two types of people
1. Those who have piles
2. Those who lie about having piles
Posted: 28 Feb 2008, 00:08
by Coco
Roids are for little blokes who were bullied at school
Posted: 28 Feb 2008, 02:56
by R_jay
Cortisone is not an anabolic steroid.
Posted: 28 Feb 2008, 06:07
by Poncey
RJJ did to get to HW.
Posted: 28 Feb 2008, 06:38
by nickd
E wrote:Morrison said the majority of top heavies are, and frankly given the appalling drug testing in boxing it wouldn't surprise me.
You don't even have to look like Golota or McCLine to be a roider - even FRans Botha failed a test....
As for piles - I'm not sure, but according to a doctor there are two types of people
1. Those who have piles
2. Those who lie about having piles
It's a common misconception that taking steroids gives you a body beautiful, however it's not a shortcut the training still has to be done. They do however significantly improve recovery enabling the athlete concerned to train for longer and more often when they are in training. They can also aid in recovering from some injuries.
People were quick to dismiss Toney's first failed test on account of him being overweight but he still would have benefitted from using them even carrying around the paunch.
Posted: 28 Feb 2008, 06:49
by Autobarn
nickd wrote:E wrote:Morrison said the majority of top heavies are, and frankly given the appalling drug testing in boxing it wouldn't surprise me.
You don't even have to look like Golota or McCLine to be a roider - even FRans Botha failed a test....
As for piles - I'm not sure, but according to a doctor there are two types of people
1. Those who have piles
2. Those who lie about having piles
It's a common misconception that taking steroids gives you a body beautiful, however it's not a shortcut the training still has to be done. They do however significantly improve recovery enabling the athlete concerned to train for longer and more often when they are in training. They can also aid in recovering from some injuries.
People were quick to dismiss Toney's first failed test on account of him being overweight but he still would have benefitted from using them even carrying around the paunch.
I recall Toney playing to that cliche, saying something of this ilk, "I can't have taken steroids, look at me I'm a fat bastard." However, the substances he tested for post Ruiz can help in shifting large amounts of weight. Given that he was terribly out of shape when he took the fight, at only what (I believe) was just over a month's notice, it's safe to say he needed 'em.
Posted: 28 Feb 2008, 07:19
by Chambers2
nickd wrote:E wrote:Morrison said the majority of top heavies are, and frankly given the appalling drug testing in boxing it wouldn't surprise me.
You don't even have to look like Golota or McCLine to be a roider - even FRans Botha failed a test....
As for piles - I'm not sure, but according to a doctor there are two types of people
1. Those who have piles
2. Those who lie about having piles
It's a common misconception that taking steroids gives you a body beautiful, however it's not a shortcut the training still has to be done. They do however significantly improve recovery enabling the athlete concerned to train for longer and more often when they are in training. They can also aid in recovering from some injuries.
People were quick to dismiss Toney's first failed test on account of him being overweight but he still would have benefitted from using them even carrying around the paunch.
I thought Toney tested positive for a stamina increasing drug
Posted: 28 Feb 2008, 07:24
by Poncey
Chambers2 wrote:nickd wrote:E wrote:Morrison said the majority of top heavies are, and frankly given the appalling drug testing in boxing it wouldn't surprise me.
You don't even have to look like Golota or McCLine to be a roider - even FRans Botha failed a test....
As for piles - I'm not sure, but according to a doctor there are two types of people
1. Those who have piles
2. Those who lie about having piles
It's a common misconception that taking steroids gives you a body beautiful, however it's not a shortcut the training still has to be done. They do however significantly improve recovery enabling the athlete concerned to train for longer and more often when they are in training. They can also aid in recovering from some injuries.
People were quick to dismiss Toney's first failed test on account of him being overweight but he still would have benefitted from using them even carrying around the paunch.
I thought Toney tested positive for a stamina increasing drug
Nandrolone if memory serves
Posted: 28 Feb 2008, 14:03
by HughJohnson
I may get shot for saying this but HGH(human growth) is rife and near undetectable if taken correctly. :(
Posted: 28 Feb 2008, 14:16
by Max Molyneux
Posted: 28 Feb 2008, 14:30
by Poncey
I've seen a picture of him with a mate and his bicep is the size of his head!
By a country mile, the best bodybuilder there has ever been.
Posted: 28 Feb 2008, 14:41
by Max Molyneux
Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:
I've seen a picture of him with a mate and his bicep is the size of his head!
By a country mile, the best bodybuilder there has ever been.
Flex looked better than him In this 1999 Olympia.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LSQR7ENflq8&feature=related
Ronnie's just a mass monster.
Posted: 28 Feb 2008, 15:40
by n1ebf
Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:
I've seen a picture of him with a mate and his bicep is the size of his head!
By a country mile, the best bodybuilder there has ever been.
Bet he's not as good as a certain former bodybuilder with the catchphrase "I'll be back".
More like "wooo, yeah buddy, I'll be back, eee hee Michael Jackson like".
Posted: 28 Feb 2008, 16:19
by Poncey
In answer to you both, you can't argue with 8 Mr Olympia wins (Arnold only got 6, and the last one was dodgy).
Re: Roids...
Posted: 28 Feb 2008, 16:32
by beagleboy
STP wrote:What percentage of boxers now, especially US and East Europe and HW, do you reckon are juiced up?
Even here. I have it on good authority that a champion fighter in Lancashire takes cortisone injections to assist his hips and elbows, apparently one of his trainers has connection with (Brian) Batcheldor or something.
Anyway, obviously very few are caught out... Roy Jones Jr, James Toney, Vitali Klitschko. But you'd need to be pretty naive not to know how easy it is to get the timing right and not 'eff up' as Mr Batcheldor likes to say.
Infact, according to Mr Batcheldor, who is connected to a boxing team up North, he's often had boxers 'visit him' down the years. Interesting.
Don't be a tease STP
Which champ? and which gym up North?
Posted: 29 Feb 2008, 04:47
by Old bones Ian
Has anybody seen the documentery 'The man whose arm exploded' ?
Now thats serious roid' use, one scene shows the mad f*cker stabbing his bicep with a needle to draw all the blood out.
Posted: 29 Feb 2008, 05:08
by Poncey
Old bones Ian wrote:Has anybody seen the documentery 'The man whose arm exploded' ?
Now thats serious roid' use, one scene shows the mad f*cker stabbing his bicep with a needle to draw all the blood out.
I did, and it wasn't nice.
Posted: 29 Feb 2008, 05:59
by mike john
Old bones Ian wrote:Has anybody seen the documentery 'The man whose arm exploded' ?
Now thats serious roid' use, one scene shows the mad f*cker stabbing his bicep with a needle to draw all the blood out.
that guy did juice, but his ridiculous size was down to injecting synthol oil directly into his muscles.
Posted: 29 Feb 2008, 09:00
by Asterix
Old bones Ian wrote:Has anybody seen the documentery 'The man whose arm exploded' ?
Now thats serious roid' use, one scene shows the mad f*cker stabbing his bicep with a needle to draw all the blood out.
Yeah, that was crazy, and I think the guy was pretty proud of what he did.
Posted: 29 Feb 2008, 09:07
by Old bones Ian
Asterix wrote:Old bones Ian wrote:Has anybody seen the documentery 'The man whose arm exploded' ?
Now thats serious roid' use, one scene shows the mad f*cker stabbing his bicep with a needle to draw all the blood out.
Yeah, that was crazy, and I think the guy was pretty proud of what he did.
Yeah was wierd wasn't it, he kept showing the home video of himself draining all the fluid out of his arm , and he put it on at the local gym.
http://www.five.tv/programmes/hiddenlives/armsexploded/
Posted: 29 Feb 2008, 09:07
by E
Asterix wrote:Old bones Ian wrote:Has anybody seen the documentery 'The man whose arm exploded' ?
Now thats serious roid' use, one scene shows the mad f*cker stabbing his bicep with a needle to draw all the blood out.
Yeah, that was crazy, and I think the guy was pretty proud of what he did.
This is the idiot.
The guy came accross as quite funny and likeable in the documentary funnily enough.
Posted: 29 Feb 2008, 09:57
by Max Molyneux
Old bones Ian wrote:Has anybody seen the documentery 'The man whose arm exploded' ?
Now thats serious roid' use, one scene shows the mad f*cker stabbing his bicep with a needle to draw all the blood out.
Greg Valentino Is funny though but damn that was disgusting.