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Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 28 Feb 2008, 14:00
by HomicideHenry
Pretty simple this is, make up a hypothetical match-up, and the person below makes their own prediction [please dont go off into a rant as to why and what have you, lets leave that to more serious thread debates] and post their own hypothetical dream match.
First up: JIMMY WILDE vs RINTY MONAGAHN [sorry for any spelling mistakes]

Posted: 28 Feb 2008, 14:18
by Seamus
Jimmy Wilde WUD 15 Rinty Monaghan. Monaghan had a great chin, and I think he'd survive to lose a very clear decision.
NEXT UP
Henry Armstrong vs Sandy Saddler. 15 rounds at Featherweight. AND, how many pts get deducted.
Posted: 28 Feb 2008, 14:25
by HomicideHenry
Armstrong WMD15 rounds over Sandy Saddler...points deducted

hence why the fight was so close...
Marcel Cerdan-Jake LaMotta 2 [had the rematch happened]

Posted: 29 Feb 2008, 09:09
by Ezzard
HomicideHenry wrote:Armstrong WMD15 rounds over Sandy Saddler...points deducted

hence why the fight was so close...
Marcel Cerdan-Jake LaMotta 2 [had the rematch happened]

Cerdan wins a close but clear points decision...
Robinson v Burley
Posted: 29 Feb 2008, 10:06
by Ambling Alp
Robinson wins a close, but clear decision.
Next up:
Michael Spinks vs Gene Tunney at lightheavyweight.
Posted: 29 Feb 2008, 10:26
by Seamus
Gene Tunney WUD 15 Michael Spinks
Spinks is one of the division's most durable fighters of all time, but Tunney is too slick, smart and tough when he needs to be. Tunney by 4, 4 and 3 pts.
Next up.
Les Darcy vs Mike Gibbons
I love both of these guys so I don't know who I'd be pulling for, the Irish-Australian or the Irish-American.
Posted: 29 Feb 2008, 17:11
by HomicideHenry
Gibbons, The Phantom of St. Paul, wins that one via decision
Stanley Ketchell vs Bob Fitzsimmons [middleweight] 8)
Posted: 02 Mar 2008, 20:20
by Seamus
While I think Fitzsimmons was a little better in a PFP sense, I feel Ketchel was the better Middleweight, and so I'd pick him to win a very close hard fought decision over Fitz with quite possibly a trip to the canvas for both men.
NEXT UP
Jack Johnson vs Sam Langford 45 rounds IN 1913
Posted: 02 Mar 2008, 20:27
by Robinson
Johnson beats an explosive and in and out Langford.
He bores the crowd with his slapping and grabing style.
The last 15 rounds are slow, and almost waltz like.
It is ruled a NO Decision but those present feel that Johnson wins
most the rounds.
Posted: 03 Mar 2008, 01:43
by HomicideHenry
You forgot to post up a hypothetical match up Kym...
Posted: 03 Mar 2008, 17:17
by Robinson
Ooops sorry :)
Ok James J Jefferies 6'2 218lb Vs Denver Ed Matin 6'6 1/2" 210lb, 1903.
The fight is set for 20 rounds in Colorado.
The fight is set after Martin has gone to war against Johnson.
Lets assume that Jefferies is not racist and takes the fight.
Would the tall and athletic Martin be able to keep the strong powerhouse
Jefferies at bay ?
Kym
Posted: 03 Mar 2008, 21:46
by torodecayey
Jeffries by late stoppage some sources list denver ed at 6'3
i think jeffries roughs him up enough for a stoppage
Edwin Rosario vs Lew Jenkins
Posted: 04 Mar 2008, 03:40
by bobbyd
torodecayey wrote:Jeffries by late stoppage some sources list denver ed at 6'3
i think jeffries roughs him up enough for a stoppage
Edwin Rosario vs Lew Jenkins
rosario by md in a rough tough brawlin battle.
willie pep(pre plane crash) vs. manny pacquiou at jr lw...15 rds.
Posted: 04 Mar 2008, 03:49
by HomicideHenry
Ooops sorry
Ok James J Jefferies 6'2 218lb Vs Denver Ed Matin 6'6 1/2" 210lb, 1903.
The fight is set for 20 rounds in Colorado.
The fight is set after Martin has gone to war against Johnson.
Lets assume that Jefferies is not racist and takes the fight.
Would the tall and athletic Martin be able to keep the strong powerhouse
Jefferies at bay ?
Kym
According to CBZ this hypothetical match-up actually was reported to have occured, and Jeffries won via KO, as well as a KO win over black contender Frank Childs [mind you, reported but not yet confirmed]. As far as the 'wasnt racist' comment, his first opponent ffs was black and a veteran of over 100 fights supposedly and Jeffries won by KO in 14 rounds, and he fought Peter Jackson as well, and til the day he died used Jackson as his measure of comparison to his later opponents.
Anyways....
Willie Pep UD15 over The Pac Man...sorry but Pep was the greatest defensive fighter I ever read about and seen on film, Manny wouldn't been able to catch him even if he threw a handful of salt at him.
Gene Tunney vs Archie Moore, 15 rounds

Posted: 04 Mar 2008, 03:57
by bobbyd
HomicideHenry wrote:Ooops sorry
Ok James J Jefferies 6'2 218lb Vs Denver Ed Matin 6'6 1/2" 210lb, 1903.
The fight is set for 20 rounds in Colorado.
The fight is set after Martin has gone to war against Johnson.
Lets assume that Jefferies is not racist and takes the fight.
Would the tall and athletic Martin be able to keep the strong powerhouse
Jefferies at bay ?
Kym
According to CBZ this hypothetical match-up actually was reported to have occured, and Jeffries won via KO, as well as a KO win over black contender Frank Childs [mind you, reported but not yet confirmed]. As far as the 'wasnt racist' comment, his first opponent ffs was black and a veteran of over 100 fights supposedly and Jeffries won by KO in 14 rounds, and he fought Peter Jackson as well, and til the day he died used Jackson as his measure of comparison to his later opponents.
Anyways....
Willie Pep UD15 over The Pac Man...sorry but Pep was the greatest defensive fighter I ever read about and seen on film, Manny wouldn't been able to catch him even if he threw a handful of salt at him.
Gene Tunney vs Archie Moore, 15 rounds

tunney and moore both at they're peak in the LHW div.i see a mixture of toe to toe,clinching,manuevering and measuring one another.a real genuine chess match.tunney wins a sd over 15 grueling rds.
sandy saddler vs. salvador sanchez in a 15 rounder.
Posted: 04 Mar 2008, 04:01
by HomicideHenry
Now thats a fornicating match up @ Sanchez vs Saddler...
A grueling hard fought foul fest with plenty of skill and guts piled on, with Sanchez squeaking out a majority decision victory...that's just my take on it...
George Chuvalo vs Earnie Shavers, 15 rounds
Posted: 04 Mar 2008, 04:10
by bobbyd
HomicideHenry wrote:Now thats a effing match up @ Sanchez vs Saddler...
A grueling hard fought foul fest with plenty of skill and guts piled on, with Sanchez squeaking out a majority decision victory...that's just my take on it...
George Chuvalo vs Earnie Shavers, 15 rounds
prime vs prime of course.otherwise earnie runs outta gas in this one and is stopped like he was against cobb.
yeah,the earnie of 74-79 would win by ud.rocks chuvalo various times but chuvalo has an iron jaw of course and doesnt go down despite alotta oos and ahhs heard from the crowd.
rocky graziano vs. juan domingo roldan in a 15 rd'er.
Posted: 04 Mar 2008, 06:00
by Goodnight, Irene
Just imagine someone like Jay Nady refereeing Saddler-Sanchez. He'd have a heart attack.
Nady between rounds--->

Posted: 04 Mar 2008, 18:30
by Robinson
I was refering to him and his racism when he was a champ...at that time of 1903.
I had read in a few other sources that he had not faced Martin and I have read else where that he was 6'4-6'7!.
Imagine any modern refering a Saddler fight :P
Posted: 04 Mar 2008, 20:09
by witherspoon
bobbyd wrote:HomicideHenry wrote:Now thats a effing match up @ Sanchez vs Saddler...
A grueling hard fought foul fest with plenty of skill and guts piled on, with Sanchez squeaking out a majority decision victory...that's just my take on it...
George Chuvalo vs Earnie Shavers, 15 rounds
prime vs prime of course.otherwise earnie runs outta gas in this one and is stopped like he was against cobb.
yeah,the earnie of 74-79 would win by ud.rocks chuvalo various times but chuvalo has an iron jaw of course and doesnt go down despite alotta oos and ahhs heard from the crowd.
rocky graziano vs. juan domingo roldan in a 15 rd'er.
Graziano by close SD, both fighters down, Graziano wins by late rally taking the last 1-2 rounds. But CLOSE - good match-up.
Mike McCallum v Bernard Hopkins at Middleweight, prime on prime.
Posted: 04 Mar 2008, 21:06
by I Feel Fine
I'll say Hopkins by SD.
Benny Leonard vs. Henry Armstrong at 135
Posted: 04 Mar 2008, 21:18
by Robinson
Hurricane Hank by decision, out works Leoonard.
Jack Dempsey (185lb) Vs Max Schmelling (188lb) peak for peak....
15 rounds. Held in Berlin, Germany.
How you see it ?
Posted: 04 Mar 2008, 21:31
by I Feel Fine
Well you wonder about Germany, but all and all I think peak Dempsey could get to Schmeling and win by TKO in 8.
One ineresting side note is that Schmeling was noted as being something of a Dempsey look-alike. If you look at them they do look very similar.
Posted: 04 Mar 2008, 23:39
by HomicideHenry
Feel, you forgot to post up your own hypothetical

Posted: 04 Mar 2008, 23:44
by Goodnight, Irene
I've always felt that way looking at Dempsey & Schmeling. Quite similar.