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More Eubank Quotes

Posted: 01 Mar 2008, 05:13
by STP
I don't know where these come from.

Does he have his own boxing show overseas or something??

(copied and pasted)

On Nigel Benn v Michael Watson

I was ringside for that fight, sat with the likes of my cousin Mica Paris, Paul Ince, Roy Jones, Lennox Lewis and some Arsenal footballers, and I didn't miss one split-second of the fight; my eyes and mind were fixated on the fight. They were 25 and fighting a WBA and WBC world title eliminator and I was in the top-2 22-year-olds in boxing; the fights were always going to happen.

What Michael did was he kept his hands open around his head - fingers on forehead - rather than holding hands up with fists clenched. It was an unorthodox defence, but 9 times in 10 the unorthodox beats the orthodox. This was correct, so I stole it from Michael and would cover up that way when I needed to. I guarantee you that any man who had gone in with Nigel Benn at that time, in his prime, with his hands up in an orthodox defence, would have got knocked out.

But what Finsbury Park showed me was how to beat Watson - not Benn, because Benn punched as relentlessly as he did against Anthony Logan and wouldn't ever fight like this again. I knew that I would have to fight Benn in a totally unorthodox fashion: half-guard - not full-guard, no range-finder, check and counter.

I also knew that unequivocal resolve would be required - look at the Klitschko fight the other night, I fired more right hands in the opening minute against Benn than Klitschko did the other night, despite Benn trying to overwhelm me with a maniacal pace and look for the knockout blow from the opening bell.

I fired many right hands, initiated the jab hard in his face, let off many flowing combinations, covered 85% of the canvas and landed many right uppercuts; all in the opening round. He was all over the shop and I didn't take a punch. I did more in three minutes than a lot of fighters do in thirty minutes, and to do it against the man who had the most opening-round wins in boxing is the epitomy of resolve and convinction as far as I am concerned.

Only his punching power troubled me. And even though I was close to death, once it had evolved into a cautious chess match there was only going to be one winner... even though I maybe didn't realise it at the time, due to being close to death.


On dropping Herol 'Bomber' Graham in the gym

Seeing as you've asked, yes. I'd be lying if I said I didn't bounce the shoulder blades of Herol Graham off the canvas, (and) apparently he'd never ever been down before. He out-boxed me, but by no stretch did he 'batter' me - his punches felt like being tickled by a feather, he couldn't batter a cod with his punches; that wasn't his business. The business of Herol Graham was being the artful dodger in there. He didn't punch correctly, but he was the grandmaster at trickstering and eluding your punches - even more so in the gymnasium, because he was, I think, (a) naturally nervous guy.

This was around the time that the 1989 World Snooker Championships were occuring.


On the Michael Watson fights

It was my convinction that I could out-box the punchers, knock-out the boxers, and do both to the fighters. That was my conviction. It was also my conviciton that I would use the fight with Michael Watson as a coronation; that I would out-class him for 5 rounds, then break him down for 3 rounds, and then look for the knock-out in round 9 - making me the main man in the middleweight division. The middleweight division was the best in the business at the time.

I had already beaten the man with the most awesome offense in Benn, so then I was looking to beat the man with the most staggeringly exceptional defence - who had only lost to perhaps the best body puncher in the business. I would show myself (as) thee best pound-for-pound fighter in the world, at the time, and it's still my conviction that everything would have gone according to plan if I had done my weight better, and there would have been no Watson 2.

In that fight itself, I did the first part; I was slotting in head punches that Benn and McCallum couldn't. The second and third parts eluded me because I ran out of strength. In the second fight, it's not my conviction that I beat the best pound-for-pound fighter in the planet that night, it's more of a fact when you consider that his offense that night was absolutely through the roof and his defence still exceptional, and extremely hard punches that did get in wouldn't even flinch his face, such was his strength and focus that night. That's why he battered me for 8 of 11 rounds.


On the best fighters

I don't believe there was a stand-out best pound-for-pound fighter between Hearns-Duran fight and James Toney-Barkley fight, and (between) Roy Jones-Ruiz fight and Mayweather now. Mayweather is just about the stand-out when you accumulate what he did to that fellow Gatti and scoring a knock-out in his last fight with Hatton, like Toney was when you accumulate what he did to Iran Barkley and scoring the knock-out against Michael Nunn - but Mayweather is less of a stand-out.

Hearns after what he did to Duran and Jones after the coronate of his time with his first fight of 1995 were the most stand-outs.


On his greatest wins

Other than Watson 2 and Benn 1, my best win came on German grounds against Graciano Rocchigiani. He was 35 and zero, 6-feet-2 and a southpaw, former and future world champion who's guard would cause Michael Nunn nightmares. Nunn only threw flashy head punches at Rocchigiani; I mixed in pin-point, hard body punches behind his elbows to keep him grounded and pick him apart with my flashy head punches.


On greatness

To become great or legendary, it goes in stages or accumulates. If you win the world championship in a dignified manner, you're good; relative to world level. If you win the world championship in a dignified manner after dignified defeats - as in accepting decisions in the past that went against you and persisting - you're great; that is greatness. If you avenge defeat and make world champion, or vice versa, you're one of the greats. What makes (a) great champion is finding the right punches at the right times, not dodging number-1 contenders, knowing how to survive and win, (and) fighting to the death in defeat.

To become a legend, you then have to beat a legend, and that is beat a legend literally: bang him up and bang him down. That or accumulate fights won that you weren't expected to win beforehand, which is legend.

But to become a legend of your own time, which is almost off the page, you have to actually win a fight that nobody expects you to win during the fight itself; that's the only way you could become a legend of your own time, when you really think about it. Nigel Benn achieved that with the Gerald McClellan fight. That made him a demigod. A living demigod is a dominant heavyweight champion of the world with charisma. That triumph made Nigel Benn a demigod, at that point.


On certain performances

For me, the physical fight itself is not to be considered as important as the mental preparation. Once you've prepared you cannot fail. As the saying goes: 'If you fail to prepare, then prepare to fail.' For certain reasons, I failed to prepare correctly mentally for Benn 2 and Collins 1, and the results were mauling affairs that could have gone either way or no way.

The fights inside of those, on the other hand, against Graciano Rocchigiani and Henry Wharton, were sterling displays on my half. That's because for 1) I prepared correctly mentally, and for 2) I had been injected with incorrectness. The standard of opposition didn't really change.


On the 2nd Nigel Benn fight

Benn was totally fused for that fight, I was the one fighter who could acquire him greatness or even legend status. He was wired. For the first time in 37 fights, I wasn't fused. I had thought of myself as far superior to Nigel Benn for 5 and a half years, and after beating him for the world title in 1990 he went from the very front of my mind to the very back of mind, and so I couldn't bring him back to the forefront, even as an obstacle. I even had to bring in my old trainer from New York to make me work.

My mother was watching that night, as usual, on American television, and praying constantly, because she knew how dangerous Nigel was from the last time he fought me! She just wanted both of us to come out of the fight safe. It's my opinion that my mothers praying caused the draw, that divine result, because Don King contractually had control of both the winner and loser for 3 fights, and I never wanted to be tied to Don King.

Maximo, my old trainer from New York, was telling me before the last round that I was winning the fight and that I should box and move in the last round, but then - due to my mother praying - Ronnie (Davies) blocked Maximo Pierret out and said into my ear that I had to go forward and get him out of there if possible.

As it happens, with the way the judges had it scored, had I listened to Maximo Pierret and not Ronnie and boxed and moved for the last round then I know I would have won the last round, and got a unanimous decision. All 3 judges scored the last round for Benn, because I was too desperate due to the perception I got from Ronnie.

The morning of the fight, by the way, my ex-wife Karen - then my wife, obviously - opened a poison pen letter that promised I would die in the ring that night. She obviously had to contact Special Branch and so on and I understand it was quite a big operation, that I knew nothing about until after the event. Barry (Hearn) was intimately involved, and after the event I then realised why there had been 20 large security guards surrounding me on the ring entrance, all with ear pieces and wire microphones and stuff!

Karen watched that fight on the television in the kitchen and was worried sick, waiting for me to fall over from sniper fire at any second! She even bought herself a packet of cigarettes that day.

A week later, I went to see Mike Tyson in prison and asked him if he enjoyed the show I put on, because I'd partly wanted to cheer Mike Tyson up and lift his spirits. He said: 'No offense, Chris, but I thought Benn won by 4 or 5 rounds!'

The global interest for that fight was staggering. According to the Satellite Times, 1 billion tuned in in 66 countries. A combined audience of over 30 million people saw the fight in the United Kingdom alone, directly following the ITN News at Ten. Match of the Day didn't get a million viewers. Put simply, it was one of the biggest fights of all time.


On the 1st Steve Collins fight

In short, Steve Collins made me dislike him immensely - I won't go into reasons. For the first time in 44 fights, I went out to hurt my opponent, and that was using too much of a subjective mind, which spells failure.


On why Prince Naseem Hamed hasn't come back

Naseem hasn't left boxing because he is sick of it, he just ran in to the fact that it is very hard being on the wrong end of the punches, because he never really was. So sick of it? It's not that you are sick of it, it's whether you have the integrity to see your course through, and your course isn't just what they say at the beginning or what they say during, it is what they say at the end. You have got to finish like you started - strong whether you are winning or losing.


On public perception/lasting respect

At the end of the day, it's all about respect - fighters fight for respect, I fought for respect. I showed my grit in Benn 1 and Watson 2, but not until it was accumulated with the grit I showed in the Calzaghe fight did the public start warming to me, and accumulate that with the grit I showed in the cruiserweight fight and nearly everyone warmed to me.

They just didn't perceive I'd taken my beatings in Benn 1 and Watson 2, due to the fact I won. I got out at correctly the right time in my view, to continue further would have left my dignity in doubt.

If you look at Tyson, it was precisely the right time for Mike to get out after the Lennox Lewis fight. He showed what a great fighter he was that night by allowing Lennox a clean kill. But quitting twice in his last two fights has tore that to pieces.


On Las Vegas

The Strip was Mike Tyson's territory - I was my own man, I wanted my own territory!

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Posted: 01 Mar 2008, 07:03
by Crew2
On greatness

To become great or legendary, it goes in stages or accumulates. If you win the world championship in a dignified manner, you're good; relative to world level. If you win the world championship in a dignified manner after dignified defeats - as in accepting decisions in the past that went against you and persisting - you're great; that is greatness. If you avenge defeat and make world champion, or vice versa, you're one of the greats. What makes (a) great champion is finding the right punches at the right times, not dodging number-1 contenders, knowing how to survive and win, (and) fighting to the death in defeat.

To become a legend, you then have to beat a legend, and that is beat a legend literally: bang him up and bang him down. That or accumulate fights won that you weren't expected to win beforehand, which is legend.

But to become a legend of your own time, which is almost off the page, you have to actually win a fight that nobody expects you to win during the fight itself; that's the only way you could become a legend of your own time, when you really think about it. Nigel Benn achieved that with the Gerald McClellan fight. That made him a demigod. A living demigod is a dominant heavyweight champion of the world with charisma. That triumph made Nigel Benn a demigod, at that point.
SAYS WHO, SAYS WHO, SAYS WHO

THIS JST SOUDNS LIKE A LOAD OF JIBBERISH TO ME, THAT EUBANK CAME UP WITH 2 TRY ND SUIT HIMSELF

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Posted: 01 Mar 2008, 07:06
by Crew2
According to the Satellite Times, 1 billion tuned in in 66 countries. A combined audience of over 30 million people saw the fight in the United Kingdom alone,
WHAT ?! THATS 1/6TH OF THE PLANET !?

AND IT WAS 18M ITV FIGURE, NOT 30+. EUBANK IS A PLAIN LIAR

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Posted: 01 Mar 2008, 07:09
by Crew2
The Strip was Mike Tyson's territory - I was my own man, I wanted my own territory!
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NO, YOU JUST DIDNT WANT TO FIGHT FOR DON KING BECAUSE YOU KNEW YOU'D HAVE HAD 2 FIGHT IT OUT WITH PROPER FIGHTERS LIKE REGGIE JOHSON, JULIAN JACKSON, MICHAEL NUNN ND GERALD MCCLENNAN

INSTEAD YOU SETTLED TO CONTINUE PICKING YUR OPPONENTS AND HAVING THE OCCASIONAL DOMESTIC SUPERFIGHT WITH A ROY CLOSE, SAM STOREY, STEVE COLLINS OR HENRY WHARTON

MUPPET

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Posted: 01 Mar 2008, 07:13
by Crew2
On Nigel Benn v Michael Watson

I was ringside for that fight, sat with the likes of my cousin Mica Paris, Paul Ince, Roy Jones, Lennox Lewis and some Arsenal footballers, and I didn't miss one split-second of the fight; my eyes and mind were fixated on the fight. They were 25 and fighting a WBA and WBC world title eliminator and I was in the top-2 22-year-olds in boxing; the fights were always going to happen.
WHERE TO START ?

WHAT WAS RJJ DOING AT THIS MICHAEL WATSON BENN FIGHT IN 1988 ???

AND IT WASNT A WORLD BELT ELIMITAOR, IT WAS A BRITSH COMMONWEALTH TITLE MATCH BETWEEN THE NO.3. AND NO.4. IN THE WBC RANKS (V.V.GENEROUS RATINGS CONSIDERIN THEY WERE AHEAD OF IRAN BARKLEY ND SAMBU KALABAY WHO HAD ALREADY WON WORLD BELTS) AND WATSON WAS MADE WBA MADATORY DUE TO MICKEY DUFFS HAND IN THE SITUATION

Posted: 01 Mar 2008, 07:34
by mrkh
greatness is taking risks. chris eubank took none. had he fought and beat james toney and retired unbeaten, he'd be viewed by 99.9% of sane people as a much greater fighter than if he avenged a defeat to steve 'scuffler' collins. you don't have to lose to become great, thats tripe, you have to take risks. the boxing public know what the score is!

him and toney were the top two super middles for a while and in 1994 were both undefeated in 40+ fights. it seemed that they were on a collision course. what with the jonathan ross appearance where toney insulted eubank the year previous, and larry mercant constantly hinting and baiting. but then roy jones beat toney before eubank got to him and eubank had a mandatory in ray close to sort out, close pulled put, collins stepped in, and it all fell to shit.

the funny thing is, he had the ability to beat james toney, with toney being an inside fighter and eubank having a terrific stiff left hand and the strength to hurt toney when it was inside. he'd grind him down and toney's late surge wouldn't be so much of a late surge, and eubank would have nicked on points! but the fact he chose money over glory, fcuk him as far as legacy. his fault.

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Posted: 01 Mar 2008, 07:35
by STP
Crew2 wrote:
On Nigel Benn v Michael Watson

I was ringside for that fight, sat with the likes of my cousin Mica Paris, Paul Ince, Roy Jones, Lennox Lewis and some Arsenal footballers, and I didn't miss one split-second of the fight; my eyes and mind were fixated on the fight. They were 25 and fighting a WBA and WBC world title eliminator and I was in the top-2 22-year-olds in boxing; the fights were always going to happen.
WHERE TO START ?

WHAT WAS RJJ DOING AT THIS MICHAEL WATSON BENN FIGHT IN 1988 ???

AND IT WASNT A WORLD BELT ELIMITAOR, IT WAS A BRITSH COMMONWEALTH TITLE MATCH BETWEEN THE NO.3. AND NO.4. IN THE WBC RANKS (V.V.GENEROUS RATINGS CONSIDERIN THEY WERE AHEAD OF IRAN BARKLEY ND SAMBU KALABAY WHO HAD ALREADY WON WORLD BELTS) AND WATSON WAS MADE WBA MADATORY DUE TO MICKEY DUFFS HAND IN THE SITUATION
From the 'Dark Trade' book:

Despite his professed apathy for Eubank, I knew that the WBO title-holder had garned some attention in Pensacola. While fooling around at home - showing me his shadow-boxing technique against one of his dogs, or slipping into a muscle-bound pose as he stood on top of the farm's 'R.J.'-initialled wrought-iron gate - Roy Jones would offer a reminder. 'Hey, look,' he laughed, 'this one is for Chris Eubank - you tell him this one's from me to him, you tell him I'm waitin', anytime an' anyplace he likes...'
Yet the threat offered by Jones was so convincing that it seemed unlikely Eubank would meet him. In contract to Hove's 'Simply the Best', Jones was 'ready to take on anyone. I'm ready for Chris Eubank, Nigel Benn or any other guy you care to mention. I'd really like to go back and fight over there. I was in London when I was eighteen years old - for the Benn-Watson fight - and I had a great time.'
'What do you remember most?'
'Oh, man,' Jones enthused, 'I just fell in love with all them pretty horses.'
'What?'
'Sure, those big police-horses ... boy, they're so pretty!'
'Gee, Roy,' I mummur with mock incredulity, 'that's strange.'
'How come?'
'Well, it sounds like you were more interested in the "pretty horses" than in any girl you might have seen. Are you like James Toney, who thinks "all the men are fat and the women are ugly" over there?'
'Oh, no!' Roy Jones Jnr cackled, 'that's where you're wrong - I took plenty 'o notice. The girls there, man, they're beautiful. Outstandingly beautiful! See - that's just another reason for me to fight in London - pretty horses, even prettier women! What better reason could there be for another look, for another trip over the ocean?'



It was 1989 and basically a world title eliminator. If Benn won he would fight Duran. Roy Jones's first two pro fights were on NBC and this was on NBC too, NBC wanted to build a Jones-Benn fight. Jones being robbed at the Olympics and Benn's 'British Hagler-Hearns' with Logan (big spread in The Ring) were tasty, and it was tasty to contrive them together I guess. HBO had bid big for Benn because they wanted to build a Nunn-Benn rivalry. But after the Watson fight, it seemed Benn had been exposed. Jones's dad took Jones off TV for a few years after that, btw, because he didn't want what had happened to Benn to happen to Jones.

Posted: 01 Mar 2008, 07:47
by STP
mrkh wrote:greatness is taking risks. chris eubank took none. had he fought and beat james toney and retired unbeaten, he'd be viewed by 99.9% of sane people as a much greater fighter than if he avenged a defeat to steve 'scuffler' collins. you don't have to lose to become great, thats tripe, you have to take risks. the boxing public know what the score is!

him and toney were the two two super middles for a while and in 1994 were both undefeated in 40+ fights. it seemed that they were on a collision course. what with the jonathan ross appearance where toney insulted eubank the year previous, and larry mercant constantly hinting and baiting. but then roy jones beat toney before eubank got to him and eubank had a mandatory in ray close to sort out, close pulled put, collins stepped in, and it all fell to shit.

the funny thing is, he had the ability to beat james toney, with toney being an inside fighter and eubank having a terrific stiff left hand and the strength to hurt toney when it was inside. he'd grind him down and toney's late surge wouldn't be so much of a late surge, and eubank would have nicked on points! but the fact he chose money over glory, fcuk him as far as legacy. his fault.
I think even Eubank knows that Toney would have out-worked him and won by wide UD. Bad style match-up with Eubank falling in and out from out of range robotically and Toney able to counter him pieces, etc. Whenever Eubank is stood and calculating what to do next, Toney's body to head and head to body combinations just out-work him completely. Greatness for me is shit like fighting on foreign soil and winning, getting off the deck to win, mixing it with the best, scoring knockouts or stoppages, moving up in weight and winning, and shit like that. David Haye, for example.

Posted: 01 Mar 2008, 08:07
by Greg Nicholas
AWESOME stuff..! Haye and Enzo are not even close to being on the same level as Watson, Benn & Eubank were..

Mike Mccallum was clearly at his very best in the Watson fight and Watson was at his very worst due to ring rust and being forced to lead not counter, and he gave Mike all he could handle.. Mike is one of the 20 best fighters ever..

The G-man Mcclellan beat the shat out of Roy Jones Jnr in the amateurs and expected to do the same again.. until he bumped into Big Benn..!

Eubank is still grossly under rated for his wins over Benn & Watson imo.. both were young, prime and in mental overdrive.. Chris went 3-0-0, fair and square, dealt with the pair of them and got the pair of them out of there..

Posted: 01 Mar 2008, 08:23
by mrkh
michael said at a dinner in peterborough last wk that he would've beaten mccallum if the fight didn't get cancelled and put back, or if he had the warm-up against steve collins instead of mccallum having it.

he also said that nigel benn hit him hardest 'by far', not eubanks uppercut. that was interesting. when asked for the best fighter he ever fought, he said nigel benn 'by far'. unfortunately he contradicted himself by saying mccallum was the best p4p fighter. but that doesn't matter, he's still an absolute inspiration and one of sport's most couragous charactors.

Posted: 01 Mar 2008, 08:39
by STP
Greg Nicholas wrote: Mike Mccallum was clearly at his very best in the Watson fight and Watson was at his very worst due to ring rust and being forced to lead not counter, and he gave Mike all he could handle..
Watson-McCallum was very much like Hatton-Tszyu and Hatton-Mayweather, and more like Hatton-Mayweather. To be honest, you can count on your fingers how many punches of any significance that Watson landed in the 11 rounds in with the 'Bodysnatcher'. Still, it's more than the zilch punches of any significance you can count that Hatton landed on Mayweather.

Posted: 01 Mar 2008, 08:46
by Greg Nicholas
Bollox..! Watson was blocking nearly all the body shots and getting in with right leads all the time, they just didnt seem to have any power behind them because his timing was a little off and they were slightly falling short and countered..

One judge, like me, saw what was going on and had it just 6-4 for Mccallum if you look on boxrec..

No round was a blow out either way.. and this was probably Mccallum's best career performance on sharpness..

Michael didnt look groggy or shaky at all until Mccallum hit him a few times after the bell at the end of rounds, torwards the later rounds.. seem to remember Dennie Mancini going ballistic at this..

Posted: 01 Mar 2008, 12:26
by Miuna
Eubank was on Naz's side on fight night :: http://web.archive.org/web/200104131610 ... _18087.asp

think Naz taking the pi$$ out of his poetry on big fight, little prince ch4 docu he didn't like, tho

Posted: 01 Mar 2008, 13:30
by STP
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Posted: 02 Mar 2008, 10:57
by Al Savani
Come on,McCallum-Michael Watson wasn't close. McCallum picked him to pieces all night long without even trying. Then you see Watson beat the awkward Eubank without breaking a sweat,only to be robbed blind,then sweep the first 10 rounds of the rematch with the style he used against McCallum. And then you just know that McCallum was two leagues above Eubank. No ifs,buts and maybes.

Posted: 03 Mar 2008, 06:12
by Greg Nicholas
Al Savani wrote:Come on,McCallum-Michael Watson wasn't close. McCallum picked him to pieces all night long without even trying. Then you see Watson beat the awkward Eubank without breaking a sweat,only to be robbed blind,then sweep the first 10 rounds of the rematch with the style he used against McCallum. And then you just know that McCallum was two leagues above Eubank. No ifs,buts and maybes.
Chris Eubank W12MD Michael Watson

Chris Eubank W12TKO Michael Watson


;)

Posted: 03 Mar 2008, 06:58
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
mrkh wrote:greatness is taking risks. chris eubank took none. had he fought and beat james toney and retired unbeaten, he'd be viewed by 99.9% of sane people as a much greater fighter than if he avenged a defeat to steve 'scuffler' collins. you don't have to lose to become great, thats tripe, you have to take risks. the boxing public know what the score is!

him and toney were the top two super middles for a while and in 1994 were both undefeated in 40+ fights. it seemed that they were on a collision course. what with the jonathan ross appearance where toney insulted eubank the year previous, and larry mercant constantly hinting and baiting. but then roy jones beat toney before eubank got to him and eubank had a mandatory in ray close to sort out, close pulled put, collins stepped in, and it all fell to shit.

the funny thing is, he had the ability to beat james toney, with toney being an inside fighter and eubank having a terrific stiff left hand and the strength to hurt toney when it was inside. he'd grind him down and toney's late surge wouldn't be so much of a late surge, and eubank would have nicked on points! but the fact he chose money over glory, fcuk him as far as legacy. his fault.
I think Eubank could have taken a points win over a weight drained Toney. Prime for prime Toney takes it though

Posted: 03 Mar 2008, 12:07
by Al Savani
Greg Nicholas wrote: The G-man Mcclellan beat the shat out of Roy Jones Jnr in the amateurs
I have the tape of that,and it was a close,extremely competitive fight. It was the 1988 Golden Gloves and the last time RJJ lost fair and square before Tarver. Gerald shows awesome power and awesome accuracy with head and body shots,you can really hear the shots and one of the body shots Roy doubles over from,Roy is wincing with every single shot but fighting furiously off the ropes with flurries of combinations,with mind blowing speed at times. Gerald deserves the decision by virtue of the fact that Roy couldn't get off the backfoot,Gerald was constantly on the frontfoot throwing bang-on blows that weren't exactly slow,and RJJ often on the ropes and in the corners.

It's extremely exciting and easily the most high class heavy duty amateur fight I've seen. But he didn't look near as good as that against Nigel,he looked damn good against Mugabi and in the 2nd Jackson fight,but very sloppy against Nigel.

Anyway,Eubank has always provided us with a good laugh. I clearly remember before the rematch with Steve Collins when he was interviewed he was going on about Collins being hypnotized and that was the reason why Collins beat him. When asked how will the return fight pan out he made an utter fool of himself by saying,'If I don't knock him out in the 1st minute of the 1st round then I will knock him out in the 2nd. If I don't knock him out in the 2nd then it will be the 3rd. If not the 3rd then I'm willing to fight him to the the finish. But I will be the winner.'

I was a very happy fella when Collins went at him like a crazed pub brawler. I was even happier when Collins got the nod on two of the judges scorecards. Eubank hung his head in disgust and it was a funny sight.

Posted: 03 Mar 2008, 12:10
by jamesmcdonnell
Al Savani wrote:Come on,McCallum-Michael Watson wasn't close. McCallum picked him to pieces all night long without even trying. Then you see Watson beat the awkward Eubank without breaking a sweat,only to be robbed blind,then sweep the first 10 rounds of the rematch with the style he used against McCallum. And then you just know that McCallum was two leagues above Eubank. No ifs,buts and maybes.
Exactly, McCallum picked Watson apart clinically in what for me was one of the most awesome displays of complete and controlled boxing I've ever seen.

McCallum's one problem was that he struggled with good movers who were very quick on their feet, as his style was rather more slow and methodical.

Posted: 03 Mar 2008, 12:21
by Autobarn
I think when fighters keep on coming out with these odd comments, like Eubank and Collins, and other fighters who just won't go away like RJJ, Ottke, Michalczewski, possibly don't feel enough closure with their careers. They can never let things drop, whether making ill advised comebacks or spouting new doses of weirdness. Wonder what Joe Calzaghe will be up to in ten years...all these guy who were allowed to do what they wanted when they got a belt seem to be at some kind of a loss, IMO.


re McCallum, I think he did learn how to deal with movement later on in his career. When he mastered the art of the feint, he did much better with the slippery Kalambay. The difference in MM's skills between the 2 bouts was remarkable.

Posted: 03 Mar 2008, 12:50
by Greg Nicholas
Its nothing Eubank wouldnt have said back then.. i remember before the Watson fight he said he was 'the man' in the middle division and that he was going to completely dominate Watson.. he also said after his fight with an Argentine guy something about him having studied Jul Jackson and Mike Mccallum and that he didnt consider them as slippery as this guy he'd just fought and that he'd beat them, think that was early 90..