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British Top 30 P4P March 2008
Posted: 01 Mar 2008, 19:35
by Horse
1. (1.) Joe Calzaghe
2. (2.) Ricky Hatton
3. (3.) David Haye
4. (4.) Junior Witter
5. (5.) Clinton Woods
6. (6.) Alex Arthur
7. (7.) Enzo Maccarinelli
8. (8.) Carl Froch
9. (9.) Scott Harrison
10. (10.) Gavin Rees
11. (11.) Jamie Moore
12. (12.) Nicky Cook
13. (13.) Bernard Dunne
14. (14.) Matt Skelton
15. (15.) John Duddy
16. (16.) Colin Lynes
17. (23.) Amir Khan
18. (17.) Wayne Elcock
19. (18.) Wayne McCullough
20. (19.) Ted Bami
21. (25.) Kevin McIntyre
22. (20.) Michael Hunter
23. (21.) Carl Johanneson
24. (22.) Jonathan Thaxton
25. (24.) Howard Eastman
26. (RE.) Tony Oakey
27. (RE.) Michael Jennings
28. (26.) Bradley Pryce
29. (27.) Ian Napa
30. (29.) John Simpson
Out - (28.) Kevin Anderson
Out - (30.) Brian Magee
Posted: 01 Mar 2008, 19:35
by Horse
Any comments, criticisms or P4P lists are very welcome.
Posted: 01 Mar 2008, 19:47
by JDC
Scott Harrison?
Does the 12 month inactivity rule not apply to him? He hasnt fought for over 2 years
Posted: 01 Mar 2008, 20:39
by observer1
11 onwards is debatable...
I would Swap Khan with Duddy
Posted: 01 Mar 2008, 23:50
by observer1
danny williams in at 30 too
Posted: 02 Mar 2008, 08:55
by MBP
JDC wrote:Scott Harrison?
Does the 12 month inactivity rule not apply to him? He hasnt fought for over 2 years
The same as Wayne McCullough,
I like Hunter but after watching his last fight i dont think he'l be doing much at Feather or S.Feather...
Posted: 02 Mar 2008, 12:20
by Horse
JDC wrote:Scott Harrison?
Does the 12 month inactivity rule not apply to him? He hasnt fought for over 2 years
There is no 12 month inactivity rule in effect. If a fighter has not retired then I class them as active.
Posted: 02 Mar 2008, 12:25
by stujones
Still no Derry Matthews?
Posted: 02 Mar 2008, 12:35
by Ash-Weston
Yeah what about Derry Matthews? Good point!. Why is Scott Harrison at nine?
Posted: 02 Mar 2008, 12:37
by Dioufy
God man, where is Kevin Mitchell?
Posted: 02 Mar 2008, 12:53
by Ash-Weston
Kevin Mitchell has been knocking out bums to get his record.Doesnt deserve a P4P ranking IMO
Posted: 02 Mar 2008, 15:04
by MBP
Ash-Weston wrote:Kevin Mitchell has been knocking out bums to get his record.Doesnt deserve a P4P ranking IMO
So what he smashes CJ then you will rate him, the kid is class

Posted: 02 Mar 2008, 15:15
by Horse
observer1 wrote:11 onwards is debatable...
I would Swap Khan with Duddy
I can see why you might want to do that, but Duddy has beaten the better opposition so far (Just about) and is closer to a World title shot than Khan.
observer1 wrote:danny williams in at 30 too
Williams could well re-enter the list at some point, but he has to beat a decent challenger before he can come back. Unfortunately, his last fight was a no contest so I couldn't bring him back, but if his proposed fight with James Toney comes off then he has a great opportunity to re-enter the list into quite a respectable position.
Posted: 02 Mar 2008, 15:18
by stujones
Horse wrote:observer1 wrote:11 onwards is debatable...
I would Swap Khan with Duddy
I can see why you might want to do that, but Duddy has beaten the better opposition so far (Just about) and is closer to a World title shot than Khan.
observer1 wrote:danny williams in at 30 too
Williams could well re-enter the list at some point, but he has to beat a decent challenger before he can come back. Unfortunately, his last fight was a no contest so I couldn't bring him back, but if his proposed fight with James Toney comes off then he has a great opportunity to re-enter the list into quite a respectable position.
Is Duddy closer to a world title shot. Khan is ranked in the top 15 with ALL of the governing bodies, and ranked 6 by Fightnews and 6 on the Boxrec computer system (I don't agree with those lofty positions). He is also fighting Kristjansen in an eliminator.
There is surely a chance Khan will fight for a world title in the Summer... Duddy won't.
Posted: 02 Mar 2008, 17:33
by Horse
MBP wrote:JDC wrote:Scott Harrison?
Does the 12 month inactivity rule not apply to him? He hasnt fought for over 2 years
The same as Wayne McCullough,
I like Hunter but after watching his last fight i dont think he'l be doing much at Feather or S.Feather...
I believe he is moving back down to Super Bantamweight.
Posted: 02 Mar 2008, 20:09
by Horse
stujones wrote:Still no Derry Matthews?
He hasn't beaten anyone of note recently. A win in his scheduled fight with stephen Foster should be enough to see him enter.
Posted: 02 Mar 2008, 20:24
by JDC
Horse wrote:JDC wrote:Scott Harrison?
Does the 12 month inactivity rule not apply to him? He hasnt fought for over 2 years
There is no 12 month inactivity rule in effect. If a fighter has not retired then I class them as active.
Dont understand the logic there. How can you compaire recent bouts if he hasn't had any?
Posted: 03 Mar 2008, 04:55
by slapbangwhallop
JDC wrote:Horse wrote:JDC wrote:Scott Harrison?
Does the 12 month inactivity rule not apply to him? He hasnt fought for over 2 years
There is no 12 month inactivity rule in effect. If a fighter has not retired then I class them as active.
Dont understand the logic there. How can you compaire recent bouts if he hasn't had any?
With the inclusion of Dunne and Duddy it looks like a British and Irish P4P not just a British one I will put forward a case for Paul McCloskey, Oisin Fagan and Andy Lee
Posted: 03 Mar 2008, 11:28
by stujones
Horse wrote:stujones wrote:Still no Derry Matthews?
He hasn't beaten anyone of note recently. A win in his scheduled fight with stephen Foster should be enough to see him enter.
He's already done that though (Handily)
Plus beaten Simpson and beaten the decent Matthew Marsh. Simspon lost to Foster.
Posted: 03 Mar 2008, 12:07
by ABA Boxing
Amateur Internationals P4P
Frankie Gavin (GBR) WC
Joseph Murray (GBR)
Bradley Saunders (GBR)
James Degale (GBR)
Kennet Egan (IRL)
Darren Sutherland (IRL)
Billy Joe Saunders (GBR)
Daniel Price (GBR)
David Price (GBR)
Stephen Smith (GBR)
Paddy Barnes (IRL)
Thomas Stalker (GBR)
John Joe Joyce (IRL)
Khalid Saeed Yafai (GBR)
Roy Sheehan (IRL)
Fundo Mhura (GBR)
Neil Perkins (GBR)
Tony Jeffries (GBR)
Cathal McMonagle (IRL)
John Joe Nevin (IRL)
Darren Langley (GBR)
Conor Ahern (IRL)
Darren O'Neil (IRL)
Callum Johnson (GBR)
Stephen Simmons (GBR)
Carl Frampton (IRL)
Ryan Lindberg (IRL)
Paul Butler (GBR)
David Oliver Joyce (IRL)
Michael Maguire (GBR)
Posted: 03 Mar 2008, 12:30
by Horse
Ash-Weston wrote:Yeah what about Derry Matthews? Good point!. Why is Scott Harrison at nine?
Scott Harrison is at No.9 as he was as high as No.4 when I first started doing the rankings, just under two years ago, and I was slow to react to his inactivity.
Posted: 03 Mar 2008, 13:26
by Horse
Dioufy wrote:God man, where is Kevin Mitchell?
Kevin Mitchell has not beaten the quality of opposition necessary for inclusion in the list. If he beats Johanneson then of course he will enter the list.
Posted: 03 Mar 2008, 18:22
by Horse
Ash-Weston wrote:Kevin Mitchell has been knocking out bums to get his record.Doesnt deserve a P4P ranking IMO
That is generally my feeling as well.
MBP wrote:So what he smashes CJ then you will rate him, the kid is class

We will see.
Posted: 03 Mar 2008, 21:00
by Horse
stujones wrote:Is Duddy closer to a world title shot. Khan is ranked in the top 15 with ALL of the governing bodies, and ranked 6 by fightviews and 6 on the Boxrec computer system (I don't agree with those lofty positions). He is also fighting Kristjansen in an eliminator.
There is surely a chance Khan will fight for a world title in the Summer... Duddy won't.
Duddy is ranked in the top 15 with all the governing bodies as well.
Perhaps Khan will fight for a title before Duddy, but I think that Duddy is more likely to fight for one first, as he was scheduled to fight Pavlik before he was cut. I don't think a late summer title fight is completely out of the question either.
Posted: 04 Mar 2008, 04:28
by lsg
Derry Mathews !!!!!!!
Undefeated, ranked in top 10 by two of the big 4 organisations. Beaten one man already on the list and took virtually every round from Foster.
Anti Mathews agenda based on one off night against Simpson is becoming nauseating