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Haye-Macca countdown

Posted: 02 Mar 2008, 13:16
by Rocky Balboa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMjX2H-hh4k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmLwQzOUl7Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j96Dic34JI8


Richie Woodhall makes a good point when saying the deciding factor of the bout could be on who is able to take a punch better, rather than just dishing the punishment out.

I also worry about the weight-making for Haye. Ok, I have no doubt he'll make the weight, but what sacrifices has he made to make 200lbs? I just hope he is strong & has enough to win.

It's clear Haye will not be 100%. David campaigning at Cruiser means he'll not be 100% bang on.

I wonder if Maccarrinelli's team really think Haye will be weak at the weight & struggle quite a lot to make 14st 4lbs? Are they really banking on that?

Cannot wait. Not long to go now! Come on David! :box:

Posted: 02 Mar 2008, 13:23
by Dioufy
Thanks for those links mate, and I agree, c'mon Haye. :-)

Posted: 02 Mar 2008, 13:44
by Mario
Just started watching that countdown program there, when was that on mate, i didnt have a clue about it!

I still think this ones gonna end early, hopefully for Haye, but should be a cracker however long it lasts.

A well schooled boxer with real KO power, one of the most exciting people to watch in world boxing, a decent bloke, and most importantly, the true world cruiserweight champion.

Come on Haye!!! :box:

Posted: 02 Mar 2008, 13:56
by TerribleTerry
Here is a good clip of the Newbridge gym in full swing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRXKjvOEJwU&feature=user

Its a talent laden, busy gym these days..

Posted: 02 Mar 2008, 14:24
by hitman_hatton1
i favour haye and relatively early.

but it's one of those where u never know.

2 big punchers like this.

haye's just too fast and heavy handed i reckon. :box:

Posted: 02 Mar 2008, 15:35
by Deserter
hitman_hatton1 wrote:i favour haye and relatively early.

but it's one of those where u never know.

2 big punchers like this.

haye's just too fast and heavy handed i reckon. :box:
I tend to agree and think Haye could get Enzo out of there inside three, simply because Enzo has always been bit too upright, static and easy to hit for my liking. I also think Haye is better prepared mentally, having faced tougher guys and tougher situations.
Enzo's been cleverly matched and I don't think he'll have ever experienced the like of Haye's power before - Braithwaite's the closest and he's not in the same league.
Having said all of that, if it goes into the later rounds Enzo's stamina could prove to be the difference and the beauty of this fight (and the reason I can't wait for it), is that one punch from either guy could make all our speculation irrelevant.

Posted: 02 Mar 2008, 17:29
by n1ebf
I thought Enzo was particularly impressive versus Braithwaite but I'll admit I've not really seen much apart from that apart from farces versus Gunn and Azzouzi and we didn't learn a thing really from Hobson 2......or did we??

now Hate on the other hand has come dreadfully unstuck versus teak tough Thompson (no disgrace)....he was busted up when Fragomeni came on strongly and if I recall looked to me seconds away from being stopped on a cut at times........and versus Mormeck (although I tipped the Haye win)..I think a lot of Haye fans are conveniently ignoring the fact Haye looked like he was about to be stopped in round 4.

I think David Haye is a likeable fella and a good boxer with super power but he is far from the finished article, world champ or not.

That's why I'm sticking with Enzo as I have been from the word go (even though he probably did seem a bit of a tit on TV for Haye Mormeck) - that and the Enzo Calzaghe factor.

I think it's effectively the same point point by Richie Woodhall but phrased differently.....who can AVOID a punch will be most crucial and from what I seen Haye is very taggable.

All that and I haven't even brought my stamina reservations about Haye into it.

Posted: 02 Mar 2008, 23:35
by Evander
I have a couple of questions.


1.How long is this ... we can't name FW going to go along.

:roll:

Posted: 02 Mar 2008, 23:40
by Evander
Haye is a runner with a jab and right hook to the body.

OK right hand himself but a backer upper.

How do you lose that much ground while fighting Mormeck, considering Haye had all the physicals.

Posted: 03 Mar 2008, 13:54
by Mario
So when was this programme on?

Posted: 03 Mar 2008, 14:05
by BAMBI
I think Holyfield will be there to co-sign this fight, and be a key Face to speak on the CW level ..!!

Im going for Haye..via mid way stoppage..imagine if it stops early? Like in Round 2!! lol

Posted: 03 Mar 2008, 16:26
by stujones
Are Setanta doing a countdown show?

Posted: 03 Mar 2008, 16:45
by Daveyswan
ye battle of Britain countdown 10.30 Setanta 1 tonight

Daveyswan

Posted: 03 Mar 2008, 17:00
by jammidodger
this fight cannot come quick enough.. proper excited.

haye 4th round for me!!!!
do it for us south londoners!!!!!!!!

Posted: 03 Mar 2008, 17:29
by StepinFetchit
Enzo's a BUM.

Posted: 03 Mar 2008, 17:51
by Rocky Balboa
TerribleTerry wrote:Here is a good clip of the Newbridge gym in full swing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRXKjvOEJwU&feature=user

Its a talent laden, busy gym these days..
Nice footage, mate! Newbridge boxing club is currently buzzing. There's no praise high enough for Enzo Calzaghe. Is he just a one-man show, or are there other people who help out with training duties? After all, for one guy to give his attention to all those guys takes some doing!

What's the name of the resistance equipment Pryce & Rees use when they are shadow boxing? Whatever the eqipment is, it looks like it's fixed to the wall behind them?

Imagine you were in that gym! If you could not get motivated to train with others like them around you, then you'll never be able to get motivated!

Posted: 04 Mar 2008, 05:09
by Alfie62
Nearly everyone on these boards are saying that Haye will walk this fight but what I see is a guy who is easy to tag and a man who has a rocket punch...I can see Maccarinelli knocking out Haye...but I think it will be a hell of a fight!

Cymru am byth!

Setanta Freeview and this fight?

Posted: 04 Mar 2008, 05:12
by Alfie62
By the way, I have Setanta on freeview and I hear the fight won’t start till 2am...does this mean that it will or won’t be shown on the freeview platform?

Cheers

Posted: 04 Mar 2008, 05:27
by Autobarn
Evander wrote:Haye is a runner with a jab and right hook to the body.

OK right hand himself but a backer upper.

How do you lose that much ground while fighting Mormeck, considering Haye had all the physicals.
He's not a runner. You may have only seen one of his fights. Haye dislikes fighting crouch fighters that can slip under his jab, who cover up well an dgive no target. This is why he had to give ground before he got his jab going. When JMM had him on the ropes Haye kept his chin behind his shoulder and stepped off to the sides. Despite the knockdown and another bad round he didn't take that many flush.

The right hook to the body isn't a typical punch of his. This was to break Mormeck down bit by bit. If he does this vs Macca he will eat left hooks to the face if he isn't fast enough on the trigger.

Haye likes fighting tall fighters with high up chins, like Alexander Gurov who was regarded as a top 10 cruiser and who Haye stopped in 1 round a year or two ago. Fights like that he prefers to hold the centre of the ring.

Enzo actually is more prone to backing up in straight lines. He did this a lot with Braithwaite which had some ppl worried, but he drew "Big Truck" onto some good counter left hooks, the shots that hurt the Guyanese most.