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HAYE 198lbs - Enzo 197lbs

Posted: 07 Mar 2008, 15:14
by DG.
Anyone else think HAYE was taking the piss with this 'I can not make the weight'?

Masterful!

I think he basically fooled FWANK!

2lbs under the weight? Haye just trained properly for this fight!

Haye looked in great condition - Enzo looked fleshy.

On fight night Haye will weigh 15st 10lbs approx, Good night, Enzo!

Gwannn, HAYE!


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Re: HAYE 198lbs - Enzo 197lbs

Posted: 07 Mar 2008, 15:19
by knockout
DG. wrote:Anyone else think HAYE was taking the piss with this 'I can not make the weight'?

Masterful!

I think he basically fooled FWANK!

2lbs under the weight? Haye just trained properly for this fight!

Haye looked in great condition - Enzo looked fleshy.

On fight night Haye will weigh 15st 10lbs approx, Good night, Enzo!

Gwannn, HAYE!


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Well done Haye!!!
His weight issues were always self-inflicted due to his love of the weights.
remember he was 81kg fighter in 2000 (I think) then moved up to 91kg and was only mid 80s when he lost to solis i think. Granted he has got older but he wouldnt have gained that kind of weight without doing some serious lifting and protein eating ;-)

Re: HAYE 198lbs - Enzo 197lbs

Posted: 07 Mar 2008, 15:22
by DG.
knockout wrote:
DG. wrote:Anyone else think HAYE was taking the piss with this 'I can not make the weight'?

Masterful!

I think he basically fooled FWANK!

2lbs under the weight? Haye just trained properly for this fight!

Haye looked in great condition - Enzo looked fleshy.

On fight night Haye will weigh 15st 10lbs approx, Good night, Enzo!

Gwannn, HAYE!


:TU:
Well done Haye!!!
His weight issues were always self-inflicted due to his love of the weights.
remember he was 81kg fighter in 2000 (I think) then moved up to 91kg and was only mid 80s when he lost to solis i think. Granted he has got older but he wouldnt have gained that kind of weight without doing some serious lifting and protein eating ;-)

ADAM BOOTH JUST CONFIRMED.


Fwank Warren took the bait!

DH was never weight drained or struggling with the weight!

NEVER!


Knockout, Enzo is getting smashed!!




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Posted: 07 Mar 2008, 15:36
by Max Molyneux
Doubt Booth was telling the truth, just that Haye kept the weight down and didn't balloon up to 230lb this time.

Posted: 07 Mar 2008, 15:40
by DG.
Max Molyneux wrote:Doubt Booth was telling the truth, just that Haye kept the weight down and didn't balloon up to 230lb this time.

But isn't that the RIGHT way to train as a fighter?

He trained properly!

As Knockout said - he dropped the bulking stuff and trained like a fighter!

He will still weigh much more than Enzo on the night - but he trained the right way, imo.


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Posted: 07 Mar 2008, 15:41
by Max Molyneux
DG. wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:Doubt Booth was telling the truth, just that Haye kept the weight down and didn't balloon up to 230lb this time.

But isn't that the RIGHT way to train as a fighter?

He trained properly!

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Doesn't he always train properly?

He's still dehydarated and will be 15st odd on the night of the fight.

If Enzo wins too they might bring back the excuse.

Posted: 07 Mar 2008, 15:44
by DG.
Max Molyneux wrote:
DG. wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:Doubt Booth was telling the truth, just that Haye kept the weight down and didn't balloon up to 230lb this time.

But isn't that the RIGHT way to train as a fighter?

He trained properly!

:TU:
Doesn't he always train properly?

He's still dehydarated and will be 15st odd on the night of the fight.

If Enzo wins too they might bring back the excuse.
I think he ATE like a fighter - kept a close eye on his weight.

Thats what a fighter should ALWAYS do!

I think he did it the 'right' way this time!

Just like (S)Hatton against Castillo - keep the weight down pre fight and do the weight the roght way!

There is no reason for Haye to walk around at 16st other than he lets himself getup there, imo.


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Posted: 07 Mar 2008, 15:45
by Bard of Boxrec
any pics anywhere?

Posted: 07 Mar 2008, 16:02
by Autobarn
LOL if they have exaggerated the probem, with Frank seeing the can't miss opportunity of a dread at the weight unified champ.

Maybe - if it's true - this kind of smart manouvreing will help smart, ambitious boxing people overtake experienced old timers like Warren.

Now the doubts may be setting in for Enzo Macca.

Posted: 07 Mar 2008, 16:05
by states
I like this. Haye has obviously not killed himself to get down to the weight, which means he should be in top form tomorrow. It also means that Enzo will get due credit should he win. Can't wait!

Posted: 07 Mar 2008, 16:06
by Bard of Boxrec
indeed. its so refreshing to see a SN opponent show total distain for frankie's regime. LOL at drinking the smoothie in front of Warren. I don't want to jinx anything but Haye could do this quick.

My only worry is that he may be overconfident. He might think he has learned from the thompson fight but it only takes a second of carelessness.

I think enzo will be nervy in there...

I need to see weigh in pics, but there are none anywhere?

Posted: 07 Mar 2008, 16:25
by EddieShredder
pics here..... sorry, haven't got time to post them properly, am at work....

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Searc ... hrase=haye#

Posted: 07 Mar 2008, 16:35
by Max Molyneux
Wonder If the beards hiding the drawn look In his cheeks.

Posted: 07 Mar 2008, 16:39
by stujones
Not really sure of the significance... so what he "fooled" Frank - all that means that it wasn't due to him being weight drained that he could only manage 32 punches a session and nearly got KTFO vs Mormeck.

I just now hope that the people how basically lambasted Warren and Enzo Maccarinelli and described this "not a serious fight" and would not consider Maccarinelli a proper champion even if he beats Haye - cause he is so dead at the weight. Well, I hope these posters will now retract those comments.

Posted: 07 Mar 2008, 16:40
by EddieShredder
Max Molyneux wrote:Wonder If the beards hiding the drawn look In his cheeks.
clutching at straws :TU: :lol:

Posted: 07 Mar 2008, 16:46
by knockout
Had a look at the Haye-Mormeck weigh in and the Haye=Enzo weigh in..... doesnt look to be too much difference...

Posted: 07 Mar 2008, 16:46
by Max Molyneux
EddieShredder wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:Wonder If the beards hiding the drawn look In his cheeks.
clutching at straws :TU: :lol:
Not really. :TU:

Posted: 07 Mar 2008, 16:48
by DG.
EddieShredder wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:Wonder If the beards hiding the drawn look In his cheeks.
clutching at straws :TU: :lol:
Just slightly!



:D

Posted: 07 Mar 2008, 16:51
by Autobarn
I hope Booth is right. Haye is definitely tight at the weight. Hopefully he is strong once rehydrated.

How will Enzo feel if he finds he's in a fight where the handicapping doesn't count for shit?

Or is Haye just trying to trick them into losing confidence?

Posted: 07 Mar 2008, 16:57
by josh fg
He just looks more like a real boxer than Mac. I am stoked he made the weight lets hope he can knock 10 shades of shit out of Mac now! I'm as excited about this as I ever am about a fight since perhaps Tyson Lewis

Posted: 07 Mar 2008, 17:02
by jamesmcdonnell
Haye looks very drawn to me, practically dessicated. Coming in UNDER the weight for me is worrying.

Posted: 07 Mar 2008, 17:08
by Poncey
Haye said on BBC delayed taping show of the Hatton v Mayweather fight that he kept himself around the weight in case a fight could be made with Enzo.

Re: HAYE 198lbs - Enzo 197lbs

Posted: 07 Mar 2008, 17:12
by tonyevs
DG. wrote:

Knockout, Enzo is getting smashed!!


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Why the hostility towards Enzo? .. Enzo wants Haye in top condition, that way he gets top credit.

The weight was made too much of an issue anyway, almost all top fighters outside the heavyweight division struggle to get to fight weight.
Its the modern way of thinking to get some kind of advantage.

Maybe Haye did fool Warren .. maybe Haye has messed his weight up and come in too light .. I`m thinking his last fight was more important so why not do the weight as he did then?

Its still a 50/50 fight.

I lean towards Haye simply because he is faster ..
But what if Enzo keeps it tight and is able to absorb the ones that get through? .. Haye`s power is v-good .. but he is no early Tyson :wink:

Enzo will be fitter and more prepared for the distance .. Haye won`t last the course as well...

Haye before the 6th :-?

Posted: 07 Mar 2008, 17:16
by Autobarn
Haye must be one of the hardest punchers ever at cruiserweight though. Alongside Holyfield and Juan Carlos Gomez. I'd say Haye - who fought in the division before and after the limit went up to 200-lbs - is the bigger single punch hitter.

Posted: 07 Mar 2008, 17:18
by states
stujones wrote:
I just now hope that the people how basically lambasted Warren and Enzo Maccarinelli and described this "not a serious fight" and would not consider Maccarinelli a proper champion even if he beats Haye - cause he is so dead at the weight. Well, I hope these posters will now retract those comments.
Totally right Stu. I realise a lot of people don't like Warren, but I feel Enzo was getting some undue stick for this fight. "he's only doing it because he knows Haye is a corpse at the weight", etc. It seemed like excuses were being made from the second the fight was announced. There really isn't the massive gulf in class here that some people are making out. Haye is rightly ranked above Maccarinelli, but this is two well matched fighters going at it. I like both guys, and don't really care who wins. I just hope the winner gets due credit: Haye for beating a dangerous opponent, Enzo for beating the best in world, not some emaciated version of the best in the world.