Best Domestic Division

Poncey · Post by **Poncey** » 23 Mar 2008, 10:33

Watching the Setanta show from last night, when they highlighted the Welterweight division top 10, I was wondering what's the best division at the moment.

What does everyone think?

I can't decide between Lightweight and Welterweight.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 23 Mar 2008, 10:38

I go for lightweight by far. Khan, Murray, Fewkes (who has a win over the Commonwealth welter champ Watson), old warhorse Thaxton, and some fighters will outgrow super feather Truscott, Mitchell, Arthur IMO.

Thaxton facing Romanov. Khan maybe getting the winner after his fancy WBO ranking fight and a poss opportunity vs one of the 2 36 yo world champs Casa or Campbell. Two unbeatens Murray/Fewkes fighting each other. It's not only talented but full of meaningful action. Look back a little bit and there was Katsidis-Earl, Earl-Romanov, great fights.

Poncey · Post by **Poncey** » 23 Mar 2008, 10:40

I agree that Lightweight has the better talent, but Welter seems to have better consistency in the top 12. I dunno

DG. · Post by **DG.** » 23 Mar 2008, 10:41

Lt Welter.

Witter
Hatton
Oleguson
Lynes
Barnes
Bami

Not a bad set.

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 23 Mar 2008, 16:21

agree. lightwelter is still our best division. (see above)

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 23 Mar 2008, 16:46

Definately LWW, take Hatton and Witter away and it still maybe strongest and Khan is moving to LWW in the next 2 years

m1kee50 · Post by **m1kee50** » 23 Mar 2008, 17:26

super-feather isnt a bad shout either, some good fights can be had there

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 24 Mar 2008, 06:11

Light welter is a bit turgid. Olusegun has proved he's a horrible stylist. Witter can't get a fight. Hatton is too scrappy and the lauded stamina just isn't there anymore it seems. I like Lynes the best because he has a nice classical style including a lovely jab. But the best fights have been when Kotelnik comes over! Our token hard luck import.

As someone said on the current scene, Kotelnik-Lynes would be a good fight.

m1kee50 · Post by **m1kee50** » 24 Mar 2008, 06:19

Autobarn wrote:Light welter is a bit turgid. Olusegun has proved he's a horrible stylist. Witter can't get a fight. Hatton is a bit of a mess frankly. I like Lynes the best because he has a nice classical style including a loely jab. But the best fights have been when Kotelnik comes over! Our token hard luck import.

As someone said on the current scene, Kotelnik-Lynes would be a good fight.

that was me. im a bit biased because Lynes is a local lad, but he is worth the shot IMO

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 24 Mar 2008, 06:26

MatthewS wrote:
Autobarn wrote:Light welter is a bit turgid. Olusegun has proved he's a horrible stylist. Witter can't get a fight. Hatton is a bit of a mess frankly. I like Lynes the best because he has a nice classical style including a loely jab. But the best fights have been when Kotelnik comes over! Our token hard luck import.

As someone said on the current scene, Kotelnik-Lynes would be a good fight.
that was me. im a bit biased because Lynes is a local lad, but he is worth the shot IMO

he's become a great fighter to watch. i can see why ppl had valid excuses for him losing to Daws. has he had any other masterclasses, pre-Daws? I really enjoyed watching Tolpola, Morrison and Muttley fights. IMO Lynes could be Paul Cook's best fighter.

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 24 Mar 2008, 08:57

Autobarn wrote:
MatthewS wrote:
Autobarn wrote:Light welter is a bit turgid. Olusegun has proved he's a horrible stylist. Witter can't get a fight. Hatton is a bit of a mess frankly. I like Lynes the best because he has a nice classical style including a loely jab. But the best fights have been when Kotelnik comes over! Our token hard luck import.

As someone said on the current scene, Kotelnik-Lynes would be a good fight.
that was me. im a bit biased because Lynes is a local lad, but he is worth the shot IMO
he's become a great fighter to watch. i can see why ppl had valid excuses for him losing to Daws. has he had any other masterclasses, pre-Daws? I really enjoyed watching Tolpola, Morrison and Muttley fights. IMO Lynes could be Paul Cook's best fighter.

I thought the signs were bad from the Dawes loss but hes proving to be a cut above. His win over Muttley was a pretty devastating coming out fight for me, I thought he was domestic class prior to that 1 but that was masterful boxing

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 24 Mar 2008, 09:00

Lynes somehow reminds me a bit of Woods. The way he's grittily improved. I'd like to see him work gradually up to a world title shot, even if he'll lose the fight. Good traditional (skills and in terms of career learning curve) fighter.

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 24 Mar 2008, 09:17

Theres something to be said for being able to tell your kids 'I fought for the world title' even if he doesn't win. I'd pick all the titlists over him but maybe he has a 30% chance against Kotelnik/Torres and you can expect him to give his all. Who promotes him anyway?

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 24 Mar 2008, 09:19

Barry Hearn I think.

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 24 Mar 2008, 09:19

What are the decisions like in Italy these days, Lynes is up against Branco in the land of pizza next, the last thing he needs in his 30s is a bad decision

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 25 Mar 2008, 08:39

i think he wins in bad old italy against a very creaking branco. problem being it will more than likely be a points type encounter.
i also think he breaks kotelnik up in a close one. colin is a better equipped fighter than rees ever is and gavin did pretty well against kot.

barry hearn has been very good and loyal to lynes thru his bad times in the ring. he should have fought under cookie earlier in his career. i thought he lost a lot of time treading water under graham mouton. he has blossomed with paul cook, though. deserves a world title shot.