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Prime Pacquaio vs Prime Hamed, catchweight 128

Posted: 30 Mar 2008, 16:10
by Jaybee From The Castle
Your thoughts, gents?

Posted: 30 Mar 2008, 16:35
by plopeater
if hamed was prepared correctly them i think he would have to much power for manny

Problem is nas would think he would who in one and end up losing on points

Good question mate

Posted: 30 Mar 2008, 17:14
by Floydp55
it would go to the cards. m

then even if naz won twelve rounds pac would get the decision because he always does.

Posted: 30 Mar 2008, 17:38
by bjermaine
pac man too good for hamed imo.

Posted: 30 Mar 2008, 18:06
by observer1
the Prince wins this easy if he takes the fight seriously

Posted: 30 Mar 2008, 19:23
by p4p1
if he takes it seriosly hamed gives pac man a flogging i watched the steve robinson fight last night with a 21 year old hamed in it that kid was something special if naz takes the fight seriosly he can ko anyone

Posted: 31 Mar 2008, 07:47
by harrygreb
are you suggesting he did not take barrera seriously?

Posted: 31 Mar 2008, 09:21
by Jaybee From The Castle
p4p1 wrote:if he takes it seriosly hamed gives pac man a flogging i watched the steve robinson fight last night with a 21 year old hamed in it that kid was something special if naz takes the fight seriosly he can ko anyone
An 8th round KO of an aging Robinson, who was a small-time local champ who never fought outside Britain, is not indicative of being able to KO Manny. I remind you that just a few months earlier, hamed fought Vincenzo Belcastro, a euro-champ and failed to KO him.

Posted: 31 Mar 2008, 13:20
by observer1
harrygreb wrote:are you suggesting he did not take barrera seriously?
He treated that Fight as a Joke, and in Turn, Barrera treat him as a Joke in the Ring..

Didn't one of Naz's Trainers Quit since the Prince wold never train seriously?

Posted: 31 Mar 2008, 15:06
by m1kee50
Jaybee From The Castle wrote:
p4p1 wrote:if he takes it seriosly hamed gives pac man a flogging i watched the steve robinson fight last night with a 21 year old hamed in it that kid was something special if naz takes the fight seriosly he can ko anyone
An 8th round KO of an aging Robinson, who was a small-time local champ who never fought outside Britain, is not indicative of being able to KO Manny. I remind you that just a few months earlier, hamed fought Vincenzo Belcastro, a euro-champ and failed to KO him.
shame, really, how they treated Robinson, just to get Hamed the belt.

Wont be able to get Campbell the same now with Khan though, hes higher profile, and can just drop it.

Posted: 31 Mar 2008, 19:49
by p4p1
MatthewS wrote:
Jaybee From The Castle wrote:
p4p1 wrote:if he takes it seriosly hamed gives pac man a flogging i watched the steve robinson fight last night with a 21 year old hamed in it that kid was something special if naz takes the fight seriosly he can ko anyone
An 8th round KO of an aging Robinson, who was a small-time local champ who never fought outside Britain, is not indicative of being able to KO Manny. I remind you that just a few months earlier, hamed fought Vincenzo Belcastro, a euro-champ and failed to KO him.
shame, really, how they treated Robinson, just to get Hamed the belt.

Wont be able to get Campbell the same now with Khan though, hes higher profile, and can just drop it.
he dropped belcastro and had improved alot since then koing perez in two rounds who was a former world champion if he treated the fight right he could of beat manny

Posted: 31 Mar 2008, 20:55
by I Feel Fine
Hamed could barely take Kelley's punch. Pacquiao is better in most areas, and he would knock out Hamed or beat him by decision. So would Morales and maybe Marquez.

Posted: 31 Mar 2008, 21:04
by bjermaine
I Feel Fine wrote:Hamed could barely take Kelley's punch. Pacquiao is better in most areas, and he would knock out Hamed or beat him by decision. So would Morales and maybe Marquez.
i agree. hamed was very good but the only time he stepped up to an elite fighter, he was beaten. pacquiao's wins are way more impressive. barrera x2, morales x2, and marquez (close).

Posted: 01 Apr 2008, 01:53
by ringsider
A who cares fight? :roll: :roll:

Posted: 01 Apr 2008, 07:27
by harrygreb
so, ive got a fight against marco antonio barrera coming up. its the biggest fight of my career and its in the US where i can really cement my rep as a modern great if i win. now, my preperation. perhaps i shouldnt train hard for it. training's getting too much like hard work. hey!! why dont i treat the whole thing as a joke. that'll really impress everyone.

Posted: 01 Apr 2008, 09:30
by klompton
"so, ive got a fight against marco antonio barrera coming up. its the biggest fight of my career and its in the US where i can really cement my rep as a modern great if i win. now, my preperation. perhaps i shouldnt train hard for it. training's getting too much like hard work. hey!! why dont i treat the whole thing as a joke. that'll really impress everyone. "

Not to mention I just had all my teeth knocked out in a life or death fight with china chinned Augie Sanchez, maybe I should be ready for anything...

Posted: 01 Apr 2008, 14:37
by Jaybee From The Castle
klompton wrote:"so, ive got a fight against marco antonio barrera coming up. its the biggest fight of my career and its in the US where i can really cement my rep as a modern great if i win. now, my preperation. perhaps i shouldnt train hard for it. training's getting too much like hard work. hey!! why dont i treat the whole thing as a joke. that'll really impress everyone. "

Not to mention I just had all my teeth knocked out in a life or death fight with china chinned Augie Sanchez, maybe I should be ready for anything...
I actually predicted a Draw for that fight, on the following assumptions:

1) Hamed was going to come in at his very best;

2) Barrera was going to bang;

3 Anyone who could take that bad a beating from Erik Morales and still stay vertical was going to give Hamed a very rough night indeed.

As it is, he outpointed Nas by a long margin, I had it 10-2, Nas taking the 3rd and 7th.

Posted: 01 Apr 2008, 15:42
by Diamond WEAPON
They'd trade several knockdowns (shit anywhere from 3-6 each sounds about right) (Pacquiao has a lil trouble with southpaws like himself interestingly enough) but Pacquiao would win a borderline close/wide decision based particularly on workrate.

Posted: 02 Apr 2008, 10:03
by ringsider
Diamond WEAPON wrote:They'd trade several knockdowns (shit anywhere from 3-6 each sounds about right) (Pacquiao has a lil trouble with southpaws like himself interestingly enough) but Pacquiao would win a borderline close/wide decision based particularly on workrate.
Jeeesh.....I guess that prediction covers pretty much all the bases except a KO. Borderline close/wide? WTF? :roll: :roll:

Posted: 02 Apr 2008, 18:49
by Diamond WEAPON
ringsider wrote:
Diamond WEAPON wrote:They'd trade several knockdowns (shit anywhere from 3-6 each sounds about right) (Pacquiao has a lil trouble with southpaws like himself interestingly enough) but Pacquiao would win a borderline close/wide decision based particularly on workrate.
Jeeesh.....I guess that prediction covers pretty much all the bases except a KO. Borderline close/wide? WTF? :roll: :roll:
What I meant was in a PTBF sense it would end up with scores like 116-112 twice, and 115-113. Or whatever it would be with all those knockdowns, which I certainly see happening. The margin of victory for Pacquiao would be in the 10-12 point range was what I was trying to say.

Posted: 02 Apr 2008, 19:08
by kikibalt
The Pac Man by KO!!

Posted: 02 Apr 2008, 19:52
by ringsider
Diamond WEAPON wrote:
ringsider wrote:
Diamond WEAPON wrote:They'd trade several knockdowns (shit anywhere from 3-6 each sounds about right) (Pacquiao has a lil trouble with southpaws like himself interestingly enough) but Pacquiao would win a borderline close/wide decision based particularly on workrate.
Jeeesh.....I guess that prediction covers pretty much all the bases except a KO. Borderline close/wide? WTF? :roll: :roll:
What I meant was in a PTBF sense it would end up with scores like 116-112 twice, and 115-113. Or whatever it would be with all those knockdowns, which I certainly see happening. The margin of victory for Pacquiao would be in the 10-12 point range was what I was trying to say.
That is an even more confusing explanation. :TU: